This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CkC.2ACIB/1399.1 Message Board Post: The parents are James Edward and Sarah Martha Short, my gr-grandparents. There were 16 children. My Grandmother Velma was a younger sister of Lucy, Lilly and Thomas. I have more information if you are interested. Jo Ann