I am writing to several list so excuse the cross posting if it affects you. I have very little on these folks so I just wanted to see if anyone else had them in their tree. Alois Ludwig b. 7 March 1825 Obenburg, Bavaria, Germany wife Barbara Zapp b. 26 May 1827 Bavaria Germany I think they married in Germany prior to coming to America. They settled in the NYC area. Their first child (that I know of right now) was born in NYC in about 1850/51. Ring any bells? if so, e-mail me for more info. Gail Jørgensen (the Jørgensen courtesy of my husband) California, USA