Is there anyone who has any of these names in their trees? Michael Hartmann, b. 20 Aug 1837 Germany d. 29 May 1911, NY (Probably in the NYC area) buried in The Lutheran Cemetery in Middle Village, NY His wife Mary C. Hartmann, maiden name unknown, b. 13 Jul 1840 NY, d. 20 Feb 1886, NY (Probably in the NYC area) buried in The Lutheran Cemetery in Middle Village, NY Son Michael Joseph Hartman or Hartmann, b. 1875/1876 d. 27 Nov 1939, in either NY or NJ and buried probably in NJ First wife Susan Kiernan, probably of NY, second wife UNK. Michael and Susan's 2 sons Joseph M. Hartman b. b. 17 Jun 1896, NY, d. 24 Jun 1975, NY, buried in LI National cemetery, NY Charles HARTMAN b. 1898 d. 27 Jan 1951, NJ? buried in Hackensack Cemetery, NJ? Lastly John Hartman or Hartmann, probably relative to Michael (at top of this e-mail b. 1837) John was b. 24 Aug 1832, Germany Bavaria, d. 23 Dec 1889 NY (Probably in the NYC area) buried in The Lutheran Cemetery in Middle Village, NY His wife Kath. Thiele (maiden)Hartman b. 23 Oct 1834 Germany Bavaria, d. 12 Oct 1918 NY (Probably in the NYC area) buried in The Lutheran Cemetery in Middle Village, NY Their household in 1880 John HARTMAN Self M Male W 48 BAVARIA Truck Driver BAVARIA BAVARIA Kate HARTMAN Wife M Female W 45 BAVARIA Keeping House BAVARIA BAVARIA Tilly HARTMAN Dau S Female W 23 NY Jewelry Polisher BAVARIA BAVARIA Gertrude HARTMAN Dau S Female W 21 NY Jewelry Polisher BAVARIA BAVARIA Mary HARTMAN Dau S Female W 15 NY Hair Chains BAVARIA BAVARIA John HARTMAN Son S Male W 13 NY At School BAVARIA BAVARIA Frank HARTMAN Son S Male W 11 NY At School BAVARIA BAVARIA William THIELE Other S Male W 24 NY Watch Maker BAVARIA BAVARIA Emma WUDERMAN Other S Female W 24 IN Jewelry Polisher BAVARIA BAVARIA Gail Jørgensen (the Jørgensen courtesy of my husband) California, USA