No idea what "Bryne" is, though. The Latin name is Bavaria, the German name is "Bayern", and the old name is Baiern. These days, "Baiern" refers to "Alt-Bayern", the original parts of Bayern, where the "Bajuwaren" used to live and Bavarian dialect is spoken, as opposed to the "Schwaben" (Swabians) and "Franken" (Francs/Franconians). (In addition, nowadays the expelled "Sudetendeutsche" (Sudeten Germans) are sometimes called the fourth tribe of Bavaria.) Michael -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Conroy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Bryne Janet, don't let anyone stop you from asking, there are no dumb questions, only dumb not asking.There is another way of spelling Bavaria and that might be what you are looking for,at this minute I can't think of it, Old age. Lorraine

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> No idea what "Bryne" is, though. I believe that someone a couple of days ago mentioned that it was probably meant to be Bayern, and I tend to agree with that. Maybe a year ago another person ran into this same problem and some on the list came to agree that it had to be Bayern. Like I mentioned previously, a lot of census takers or the person writing a document couldn't understand the 'old' German accents, so the town name or surname was written as the census taker/person 'heard' it. Just my two cents. Nancy