Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:47:39 PST Opps.......I forgot to include the German page: I hope someone out there can help me out, namely Stefan Probst. The following German passage is about the dialect in Bavaria from one of the web sites recommended. My problem is that my ancestors and current relatives live in the Fichtelgebirge area near the Czech border. I assume that Franconian is spoken there (see map) But in the following passage it mentions the towns of Wunsiedel and Marketrdwitz which exactly where they live. Could someone translate this passage and tell me what German dialect is spoken in these two towns of Wunsidel & Marketredwiz? Thanks so much, I am confused. Am I Bavarian or Franconian. Gerald Kisabeth Der bairische Sprachraum mit seinen alemannischen und ostfränkischen Nachbargebieten (nach König). Karte: Hugendubel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vor allem die Sprachgrenzen zum alemannischen und fränkischen Raum folgen nicht immer den politischen Grenzen. Beispiele dafür: - Im Altlandkreis Aichach im Regierungsbezirk Schwaben wird Bairisch geredet; - dafür spricht man am oberbayerischen Lechrain ein Bairisch mit alemannischen Anklängen; - im Nordwesten, z.B. im Landkreis Neumarkt, wurde die Sprache, wegen der Nähe zum Großraum Nürnberg, fränkisch gefärbt; - im Norden gehören auch Teile Oberfrankens, um Wunsiedel und Marktredwitz, zum bairischen Sprachraum; - und auch im Südtiroler Vinschgau ist ein alemannischer Einfluß unüberhörbar ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear friends of Bavarian Genealogy and Customs, may I announce you, that just in time for the season, the "German-International (Bavarian section) Transcribers of Ship and Naturalization documents of Emigrating Departurers" (in short: GIBTSNED) just finished their work on the ship passengers lists of the old famous South Bavarian port of Ibidumm (now in the Western suburbs of Munich), which is known to nearly every child in Bavaria. Section 1.1. of the documentation contains typical Bavarian names like SCHIFFBAUER, ANKERSCHMIED, KRABBENFISCHER, DEICHGAENGER, FISCHKOPF, etc. Especially if you have the name ALLESGLAEUBER in your lineage, you should definetly check their site! Section 1.2. lists the names sorted by geographic origin of the Bavarian departurers, with the area between Oder and Elbe containing the most names. Section 1.3. features a search engine, especially designed for that site: "Fast and Instantant Navigation Directory for National and International German Ship-goers"(in short: FIND-NIGS) Section 1.4. lists the names of the ships in dependence of the specific departure date. Their site at http://www.all.ourfamily.com/Ibidumm/ will officially open tomorrow. Alternatively, requests for information, as well as own contributions (e.g. HTML pages that should be hosted in addition), may be eMailed to the "International Directory Of Departure Lists of Ibidumm" <iDODL-Ibidumm@all.ourfamily.com>. They said, that they will re-publish worthy contributions to this list here. One last word, especially to the Bavarian speaking list members: Since the GIBTSNED expects some traffic on the first day, I would kindly request you, to hold back your comments to this mailing list until after tomorrow (i.e. 2.4.). On the first "Opening Day" tomorrow I would like us to give our international guests the chance to visit this rare site without being disturbed. I do however encourage you, and everybody else who might contribute to this unique site (with information or requests), to mail your HTML pages to the mail address above, or if you don't like to send it to iDODL-Ibidumm, you may also mail it directly to me. I will look that they upload it then. In order to allow this additional contributions for the opening day, I announce this site already today, although the adequate date would be tomrrow only. I hope you understand.... Cheers, and have a great day tomorrow! See you all at the opening of that site!!! Stefan Probst