Mea culpa mea culpa mea MAXIMA CULPA I apparently posted something to the Bavaria-L that should have gone to the Baden-Wurttemburg-L. My humble abject apologies to the listowner/manager for accusing him of something he did not do. In any event for those of you who are curious, there was line entitled "Stubborn Krauts" on the B-W group that was getting to be fun until the listowner/manager put out the Cease and Desist order. Again, apologies upon apologies Chuck Schwartz