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    1. Re: [BAVARIA] Schilb--Rohrbacher Moulton, Ohio
    2. Dave or Beth Arnott
    3. Hi Billie, The 1860 Census has the same info on the ROHRBACHR's re: birthplace. (Plus 8 kids). In 1870, they both report being from Bavaria, and have 11 kids. In the 1880 Census on www.familysearch.org , Catherine is living with all seven sons; daughters are not living there. However, the birthplace for Catherine is given as Prussia. In the column for birthplace of father and mother, Prussia is given for all the sons. So, I guess it was somewhere in Germany! I did notice some other ROHRBACHER's as being from Alsace-Loraine, so maybe that would be a good place to start. Doesn't it drive you nuts? I have a gr-grandfather who was born in VA, NC, or IL, depending on the source! Good luck, Beth ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "billie pollard" <bpollard@greenhills.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Schilb--Rohrbacher Moulton, Ohio > I have been trying to find more information on my g.g Henry Schilb ( sept-25-1820--March 15, 1875) and his sister Catharine Schilb( feb.15, 1824- 1891) who married George Rohrbacher. The Schilb children came to the United States in 1836 and the family settled in Ohio. Catharine is buried Moulton township, Ohio at a cemetery called Greenlawn. In the 1880 census Henry states he is from Bavaria, but Catharine says she came from Alsace-Lorain. If someone knows of a Historical society in auglaize county Ohio that I could contact? Henry left Ohio and came to Iowa by 1850 and stayed there till his death. > > I found this information in an letter written in 1977 by Jay Rohrbacher from Lima Ohio. He died in 1978. In his letter he was looking for the family coming from Werschberg. > Any information would be appreciated. Billie > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > > >

    07/02/2005 05:38:48
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] Schilb--Rohrbacher Moulton, Ohio
    2. Dave or Beth Arnott
    3. Billie, You could try three books at your library: "The Source," and "The Redbook," and "The Handy Book for Genealogists." At least one of them (I forget which one) should contain addresses for all courthouses in the US> Good luck, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "billie pollard" <bpollard@greenhills.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Schilb--Rohrbacher Moulton, Ohio > I have been trying to find more information on my g.g Henry Schilb ( sept-25-1820--March 15, 1875) and his sister Catharine Schilb( feb.15, 1824- 1891) who married George Rohrbacher. The Schilb children came to the United States in 1836 and the family settled in Ohio. Catharine is buried Moulton township, Ohio at a cemetery called Greenlawn. In the 1880 census Henry states he is from Bavaria, but Catharine says she came from Alsace-Lorain. If someone knows of a Historical society in auglaize county Ohio that I could contact? Henry left Ohio and came to Iowa by 1850 and stayed there till his death. > > I found this information in an letter written in 1977 by Jay Rohrbacher from Lima Ohio. He died in 1978. In his letter he was looking for the family coming from Werschberg. > Any information would be appreciated. Billie > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > > >

    07/02/2005 05:12:09
    1. Schilb--Rohrbacher Moulton, Ohio
    2. billie pollard
    3. I have been trying to find more information on my g.g Henry Schilb ( sept-25-1820--March 15, 1875) and his sister Catharine Schilb( feb.15, 1824- 1891) who married George Rohrbacher. The Schilb children came to the United States in 1836 and the family settled in Ohio. Catharine is buried Moulton township, Ohio at a cemetery called Greenlawn. In the 1880 census Henry states he is from Bavaria, but Catharine says she came from Alsace-Lorain. If someone knows of a Historical society in auglaize county Ohio that I could contact? Henry left Ohio and came to Iowa by 1850 and stayed there till his death. I found this information in an letter written in 1977 by Jay Rohrbacher from Lima Ohio. He died in 1978. In his letter he was looking for the family coming from Werschberg. Any information would be appreciated. Billie

    07/02/2005 03:46:59
    1. help finding a town
    2. Sandy Passman
    3. Dear Listers - I could use some help. I am researching my family who came from Bavaria. I have been working to find the town they came from, with no joy, so far. Everything that I have found on them only says they came from Bavaria (Baiern). They came together to the US in 1869 - and I have their immigration record, marriage record, children's baptism records and US censuses from 1870 thru 1930. All any of these records says is that they were from Bavaria. They were not naturalized. I have not found them in the IGI. I am researching Gottfied Meyer (b. 1842) and Kunigunde Wallner (b. 1845). The parents of Gottfried were Joseph Meyer and Maria Hoffmann and the parents of Kunigunde were Michael Casper Wallner and Juliane Wallner. Can anyone help me narrow my search for their town of origin? - by suggesting another source to look into or if you may know of an area where any of these names were concentrated. Thank you, Sandy --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!

    06/30/2005 01:14:34
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] help finding a town
    2. Max Burgdorf
    3. Sandy I am surprised that you did not find them in the IGI. You have probably already done this but with the name MEYER there are so many various spellings, Meyer, Mayer, Maier, Mahyer, and probably others. Max ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Passman<mailto:sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] help finding a town Dear Listers - I could use some help. I am researching my family who came from Bavaria. I have been working to find the town they came from, with no joy, so far. Everything that I have found on them only says they came from Bavaria (Baiern). They came together to the US in 1869 - and I have their immigration record, marriage record, children's baptism records and US censuses from 1870 thru 1930. All any of these records says is that they were from Bavaria. They were not naturalized. I have not found them in the IGI. I am researching Gottfied Meyer (b. 1842) and Kunigunde Wallner (b. 1845). The parents of Gottfried were Joseph Meyer and Maria Hoffmann and the parents of Kunigunde were Michael Casper Wallner and Juliane Wallner. Can anyone help me narrow my search for their town of origin? - by suggesting another source to look into or if you may know of an area where any of these names were concentrated. Thank you, Sandy --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records<mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records>

    06/30/2005 12:39:54
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] Documenting or Copying
    2. Tracy J.
    3. Alot of us get a start with other peoples information. We have found some of the people who wrote genealogy books 50 years ago were lazy, said they did the whole job and when they didn't know something they made up that someone died which wasn't true. Census takers asked neighbors and not the people they were keeping track of where they were from and ages. And then there was the fact people have told me that our ancestors didn't really care or keep track of ages. Some of them didn't even understand the use of a legal name and changed their name on every record. I have also found indexes are great for the english but they blew off even putting half my ancestors in the indexes. That is pretty pathetic. It didn't matter how well the census taker clearly wrote. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Osborn" <dosborn@pldi.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Documenting or Copying > I ahve found many wrong things posted on my family names and even births that were to old of children to ages of parents. > > I have gone and done research my self and found in books more. I payed when I could not find enough imformation for researchers in the counties my ancestors are from and it sure does pay off. I found more that what was in Liburays and on the intermet. > > > Donna Osborn > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

    06/29/2005 05:53:02
    1. Documenting or Copying
    2. Donna Osborn
    3. I ahve found many wrong things posted on my family names and even births that were to old of children to ages of parents. I have gone and done research my self and found in books more. I payed when I could not find enough imformation for researchers in the counties my ancestors are from and it sure does pay off. I found more that what was in Liburays and on the intermet. Donna Osborn

    06/29/2005 02:22:50
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Tracy J.
    3. They pay people to pick garbage up. That is why it is cleaner. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marguerite Miller" <margueri@iglou.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials > You cannot compare Germany to the size of America. Germany is no larger than > some of our states. So maybe when you compare it to some of the state you > listed that may be true. However many of our states are much more built up. > So I guess it depends on where you live. > One of the things that I so admire in Germany is that there is no trash > everywhere like so many places here. I guess that may depends on where you > live also. > Marguerite > > > > I agree. The open spaces in Germany are beautiful. I especially like the > golden yellow fields in May. > > > > I did not say there was NO open space in Germany, only that it's not > *nearly* as much as in America. Take an airplane trip over Arizona, New > Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. They > have HUGE beautiful open spaces. > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

    06/19/2005 10:24:19
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Marguerite Miller
    3. You cannot compare Germany to the size of America. Germany is no larger than some of our states. So maybe when you compare it to some of the state you listed that may be true. However many of our states are much more built up. So I guess it depends on where you live. One of the things that I so admire in Germany is that there is no trash everywhere like so many places here. I guess that may depends on where you live also. Marguerite > I agree. The open spaces in Germany are beautiful. I especially like the golden yellow fields in May. > > I did not say there was NO open space in Germany, only that it's not *nearly* as much as in America. Take an airplane trip over Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. They have HUGE beautiful open spaces. > > Norm > >

    06/19/2005 03:03:31
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Good morning, Burial customs are culturally and practically driven. Cost of ground burial is making cremation popular in the US. In Germany they have now in some places little forests or parks and the cremains are scattered sometimes poured against a particular tree. In the old cemeteries in new Orleans one has the above ground "oven" graves. After one year and one day the body can be pushed to the back of the "oven" where it falls of a ledge and a new one place inside. In Missouri graves can be reused after 50 years. In Wisconsin a grave cannot be used again according to state law. When I visited Zenching and Koetzting Bavaria I was able to find the graves of relatives who been dead more than 50 years. The Altfriedhof in Koetzting has many old graves with nice markers. Cheers Pastor Bischoff Gruess Gott! Begräbnis-Sitten sind kulturell und praktisch gefahren. Preis von Boden-Begräbnis macht Einäscherung in der US populär. In Deutschland haben Sie jetzt in einigen Stellen, bißchen forstet, oder Parks und die cremains werden manchmal gegossen gegen einen besonderen Baum verstreut. In den alten Friedhöfen in neuem Orleans eine hat die oben erwähnten Boden "-Backofen" 'Gräber. Nach einem Jahr und einem Tag kann der Körper zum Rücken vom " Backofen ", in wo es von einem Sims und einer neuen einer Stelle fällt, geschoben werden. In Missouri Gräbern kann nach 50 Jahren wiederverwendet werden. In Wisconsin kann ein Grab wieder staatlichem Gesetz zufolge nicht benutzt werden. Als Ich Zenching und Koetzting Bayern besuchte, war Ich fähig, die Gräber von Verwandten, die mehr als 50 Jahre tot gewesen, zu finden. Der Altfriedhof in Koetzting hat viele alte Gräber mit netten Marken. Tschuess! Pfarrer Bischoff

    06/19/2005 01:00:56
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Dave or Beth Arnott
    3. I'd like to add Iowa, Nebraska, and Kansas to the list of "wide open spaces." If you've ever had to drive through any of them, you'll know what I mean. It takes a REALLY long time to drive from end-to-end in one of these states, and they sure do grow a lot of corn and other crops there!!! And they are very, very flat. (Apologies to anyone from these states; not meant as a "dig," just my impression). From Wisconsin, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm B." <nbrenn@charter.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials > Thanks for that clarification, Pat. > > Norm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Padian > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:22 PM > Subject: RE: [BAVARIA] burials > > > My understanding is that the "head stone" can become part of road & park > payments- but not the body remains. Pat > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Ruzylo [mailto:jruzylo@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:08 AM > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials > > Please delist me... > Thanks > Judy > > > On 6/17/05 2:04 PM, "Norm B." <nbrenn@charter.net> wrote: > > > Sandy, > > > > First understand that real estate is at a premium in Europe. Towns have > little > > or no space between them. There are no "wide open spaces" like in America. > > Cemeteries are full, hemmed in, and cannot expand. > > > > The original burial plot lease is for a certain period (variously 10-30 > > years). Close relatives plant the plot with flowers and frequently visit > and > > tend the garden. The lease can be renewed indefinitely and, as long as > someone > > pays for a renewal, nothing changes. Perhaps there is some absolute > maximum > > time, I'm not sure, but eventually the deceased becomes a distant memory > of > > current survivors, the lease is allowed to expire, and the grave is > cleared. > > There is not much left of the human remains at that point. A German told > me > > that any remains become part of road pavement. I don't know if he was > joking > > or not, but it seems reasonable after all that time. > > > > Norm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandy Passman > > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:48 AM > > Subject: [BAVARIA] burials > > > > > > I have been reading the thread about burial sites being 'rented' for a > time > > period with interest. But, I am not sure that I completely understand. How > > does that work? What happens to the original body? - is the first body > buried > > deeply and then others buried on higher levels? or is the first body > removed > > when the time is up? And, if so, what do they do with the remains? > > Thank you for clearing this up for me. > > Sandy > > USA > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > to unsubscribe > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >

    06/18/2005 05:49:28
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Norm B.
    3. Thanks for that clarification, Pat. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Padian To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: RE: [BAVARIA] burials My understanding is that the "head stone" can become part of road & park payments- but not the body remains. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Judy Ruzylo [mailto:jruzylo@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials Please delist me... Thanks Judy On 6/17/05 2:04 PM, "Norm B." <nbrenn@charter.net> wrote: > Sandy, > > First understand that real estate is at a premium in Europe. Towns have little > or no space between them. There are no "wide open spaces" like in America. > Cemeteries are full, hemmed in, and cannot expand. > > The original burial plot lease is for a certain period (variously 10-30 > years). Close relatives plant the plot with flowers and frequently visit and > tend the garden. The lease can be renewed indefinitely and, as long as someone > pays for a renewal, nothing changes. Perhaps there is some absolute maximum > time, I'm not sure, but eventually the deceased becomes a distant memory of > current survivors, the lease is allowed to expire, and the grave is cleared. > There is not much left of the human remains at that point. A German told me > that any remains become part of road pavement. I don't know if he was joking > or not, but it seems reasonable after all that time. > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy Passman > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:48 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] burials > > > I have been reading the thread about burial sites being 'rented' for a time > period with interest. But, I am not sure that I completely understand. How > does that work? What happens to the original body? - is the first body buried > deeply and then others buried on higher levels? or is the first body removed > when the time is up? And, if so, what do they do with the remains? > Thank you for clearing this up for me. > Sandy > USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

    06/18/2005 04:29:43
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Norm B.
    3. I agree. The open spaces in Germany are beautiful. I especially like the golden yellow fields in May. I did not say there was NO open space in Germany, only that it's not *nearly* as much as in America. Take an airplane trip over Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. They have HUGE beautiful open spaces. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: GilMarlin@aol.com To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials I AGREE.........lots of wide open space, take a train ride thru Germany ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

    06/18/2005 04:26:06
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. I AGREE.........lots of wide open space, take a train ride thru Germany

    06/18/2005 03:17:58
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Marguerite Miller
    3. Norm, I don't know about the premium of the land in Germany but you are wrong about there being no wide open spaces or that towns have little or no space between them. It is just full of open spaces. There are many small villages and small towns with only a few miles apart. However it is much open space around and between them and it is just beautiful. If only we had that here in America. You have to remember that Germany is not nearly as large as America. But they have much open space compared to ours. I believe that you are right that there is no room to expand the cemeteries, but with their plan it is not needed. Marguerite > Sandy, > > First understand that real estate is at a premium in Europe. Towns have little or no space between them. There are no "wide open spaces" like in America. Cemeteries are full, hemmed in, and cannot expand. > > The original burial plot lease is for a certain period (variously 10-30 years). Close relatives plant the plot with flowers and frequently visit and tend the garden. The lease can be renewed indefinitely and, as long as someone pays for a renewal, nothing changes. Perhaps there is some absolute maximum time, I'm not sure, but eventually the deceased becomes a distant memory of current survivors, the lease is allowed to expire, and the grave is cleared. There is not much left of the human remains at that point. A German told me that any remains become part of road pavement. I don't know if he was joking or not, but it seems reasonable after all that time. > > Norm

    06/18/2005 03:12:16
    1. Connecting with family in Bavaria
    2. Joseph Kramer
    3. Dear Beth Many thanks. I will investigate the Wisconsin Heimerls. The name Hämmerl has been spelled many ways. Tomorrow I leave for Germany to visit ancestoral towns with my 85 year old parents. We will visit Hardheim (Grandpa Berberich), Bogen/Straubing (Grandpa Hämmerl) and Boding (Grandpa Winner). After growing up in St. Louis, I am looking forward to a boat ride on the Danube. More in July. Joseph Kramer

    06/18/2005 01:18:02
    1. RE: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Pat Padian
    3. My understanding is that the "head stone" can become part of road & park payments- but not the body remains. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Judy Ruzylo [mailto:jruzylo@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] burials Please delist me... Thanks Judy On 6/17/05 2:04 PM, "Norm B." <nbrenn@charter.net> wrote: > Sandy, > > First understand that real estate is at a premium in Europe. Towns have little > or no space between them. There are no "wide open spaces" like in America. > Cemeteries are full, hemmed in, and cannot expand. > > The original burial plot lease is for a certain period (variously 10-30 > years). Close relatives plant the plot with flowers and frequently visit and > tend the garden. The lease can be renewed indefinitely and, as long as someone > pays for a renewal, nothing changes. Perhaps there is some absolute maximum > time, I'm not sure, but eventually the deceased becomes a distant memory of > current survivors, the lease is allowed to expire, and the grave is cleared. > There is not much left of the human remains at that point. A German told me > that any remains become part of road pavement. I don't know if he was joking > or not, but it seems reasonable after all that time. > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy Passman > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:48 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] burials > > > I have been reading the thread about burial sites being 'rented' for a time > period with interest. But, I am not sure that I completely understand. How > does that work? What happens to the original body? - is the first body buried > deeply and then others buried on higher levels? or is the first body removed > when the time is up? And, if so, what do they do with the remains? > Thank you for clearing this up for me. > Sandy > USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe

    06/18/2005 11:22:39
    1. Re[2]: [BAVARIA] Louisa Beckman b. abt 1833 in Schillingsfurst, Bavaria, Germany
    2. Eric Haas
    3. Saturday, June 18, 2005, 1:22:11 AM, you wrote: DoBA> Dear Peggy, DoBA> Doing a quick search on www.familysearch.org , I found a Louisa BECKMAN, b. DoBA> 1834 in Baltimore. She married a Frederick AUER. The marriage took place DoBA> 11 Aug., 1851. No parents given. DoBA> Now comes the fun for you. Was she really born in Germany, or was she born DoBA> in Baltimore? You could try sending for a Birth certificate and/or Marriage DoBA> certificate in Baltimore to see what they say. (Maybe one or both of DoBA> Louisa's parents were born in Germany.) Baltimore didn't start keeping civil birth records until 1875. In Unterfranken, Bayern: HAAS, WEIGAND, GRIMM, BRUST, LINCK, SITZMANN, STEIN, AUL, HERGOTT Elsewhere: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS

    06/17/2005 07:05:53
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] Louisa Beckman b. abt 1833 in Schillingsfurst, Bavaria, Germany
    2. Dave or Beth Arnott
    3. Dear Peggy, Doing a quick search on www.familysearch.org , I found a Louisa BECKMAN, b. 1834 in Baltimore. She married a Frederick AUER. The marriage took place 11 Aug., 1851. No parents given. Now comes the fun for you. Was she really born in Germany, or was she born in Baltimore? You could try sending for a Birth certificate and/or Marriage certificate in Baltimore to see what they say. (Maybe one or both of Louisa's parents were born in Germany.) Good luck, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: <Emdunn0226@aol.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 1:24 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Louisa Beckman b. abt 1833 in Schillingsfurst, Bavaria, Germany > Dear List, > > I'm very anxious to find the birth date and parent's of the above Louisa, > who is my 2nd Great Grandmother. I know that she left Germany and came to the > USA about 1850 because she married Johann Frederick Auer in 1861 in > Baltimore, MD. They moved from Baltimore to NYC abt 1860 and both died there. > > Thank you for any help you can offer me. > > Peggy in Utah, USA > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >

    06/17/2005 06:22:11
    1. Re: [BAVARIA] burials
    2. Judy Ruzylo
    3. Please delist me... Thanks Judy On 6/17/05 2:04 PM, "Norm B." <nbrenn@charter.net> wrote: > Sandy, > > First understand that real estate is at a premium in Europe. Towns have little > or no space between them. There are no "wide open spaces" like in America. > Cemeteries are full, hemmed in, and cannot expand. > > The original burial plot lease is for a certain period (variously 10-30 > years). Close relatives plant the plot with flowers and frequently visit and > tend the garden. The lease can be renewed indefinitely and, as long as someone > pays for a renewal, nothing changes. Perhaps there is some absolute maximum > time, I'm not sure, but eventually the deceased becomes a distant memory of > current survivors, the lease is allowed to expire, and the grave is cleared. > There is not much left of the human remains at that point. A German told me > that any remains become part of road pavement. I don't know if he was joking > or not, but it seems reasonable after all that time. > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy Passman > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:48 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] burials > > > I have been reading the thread about burial sites being 'rented' for a time > period with interest. But, I am not sure that I completely understand. How > does that work? What happens to the original body? - is the first body buried > deeply and then others buried on higher levels? or is the first body removed > when the time is up? And, if so, what do they do with the remains? > Thank you for clearing this up for me. > Sandy > USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe

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