Hello Jim, I am sorry but the towns you are requesting assistance with are about 400 miles from where I live. However if you want to send me the information and exactly what you are looking for I will see what I can do for you from here. Unfortunately it will be sometime next year before I will be in the south of Germany again which is where these towns you are asking about are. But in the meantime I can look up addresses, phone numbers and names for you if that would help. Regards, Pamela Pamela Splettstoesser www.palettemasters.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Throneburg [mailto:timekeeper@classicnet.net] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:23 PM To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Willing Assistance Do you live close to Fürth or Nürnberg? I had relatives there that I am trying to get info on, I would be happy to reimburse you for any help you may be. I would love to get to live in Germany a while! Let me know the details and I will get you the Names.... Hopeful, Jim Throneburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Splettstoesser" <pamela@palettemasters.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Willing Assistance > Just a note to reiterate what Narda and Beth have said.... I often > have offered to help people from America who have no way of getting > photos of gravesites or accessing records book which have to be > manually checked here in Europe. So don't be afraid to ask! Sometimes > just a friendly request will get you a long way. Of course it is > always nice when people offer to pay for gas or postage also but for > the most part, I do what I can when asked. > > As an American that moved to Europe, I can tell you that it is not > easy and there are so many things you miss the first time around. I > came here specifically to find the information of my ancestors. (that > was over 4 years > ago!) The first time I visited the village where my Great > Grandparents were born and married, I thought I had hit a gold mine!! > I got copies of their birth, marriage and baptism records as well as > all the records for their > parents and siblings! But when I returned just for a vacation a year > later > I realized how much I missed just by not talking to the local town people! > There were stories, old friends and relatives to talk to and even fotos!! > So > even when you think you have it all, look again, and TALK to people! > Oh and don't worry about bad language skills... most people in Europe > speak at least a bit of English and if you at least put forth an > effort to communicate in their language, they will reciprocate and use > what English they know for you. > > Phone books are a great resource but in Europe they are not always > reliable. > But the local Rathuis is! Everyone in Europe is required to sign in > at a local registry when they move into an area and then carry a slip > of paper that shows to what zone they belong to. For instance, when > living in Berlin if you move from Postdam to Charlottenburg you have > to sign out at the Potsdam Rathuis and sign in at Charlottenburg. > > Best of Luck to everyone! > Pamela Splettstoesser > <http://www.palettemasters.com/> > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to > be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

Hello List, Could someone tell me or show me a map of Bavaria's border or Bayern in about 1700-1750? Also did it change from the year about 1600? I am trying to confirm a village which may has been misspelled or transcribed incorrectly due to old hard to read documentation / records. Does Reichelshausen, Reichelsheim or possibly Reicholzheim (Mosbach) fit in the area of Bavaria or Bayern? Thank You Kurt in Michigan according to Mr Stader book: AMENT (also found spelled with these variations: Amend, Amendt) Johann, born around 1731, from "Reichelshausen or possibly Reicholzheim "in the diocese or bishophric of Wu(e)rzburg, Germany Johann arrived 1765 in Filipowa, Batschka County, Hungary; died 20 March1798 in Filipowa; married 11 April 1763 in town of Waibstadt (southwest of Mosbach in the state of Bayern, Germany) Anna Margararethe Franziska METZLER (daughter of Georg Metzler and Eva Ernst) who was born 31 August1740 in Waibstadt and died 21 April 1811 in Filipowa; Surviving children, born in Filipowa, were: 1.) Katharina born 14 Feb.1767, 2.) Anna Maria born 1 Nov.1769, 3.) Johann born 10 Nov.1775, 4.) Elisabeth born 19 March 1777, 5.) Josef born 19 March 1779, 6.) Maria Klara born 30 March 1781; Johann Ament registered with the Austrian-Hungarian government in Vienna on July 1765, designating his destination as Filipowa. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

I am trying to form a genealogy for my children's German ancestry. I too have German ancestry, but for the moment, need to work on their line until I can make more time. I believe an address for them can be found in Aschaffenburg (near Frankfurt), and/or Schomberg (in Schwarzwald, near Wildbad). I would be happy to reimburse you for any local address there that you might find which would allow me to write them directly. Thanks sincerely, Richard Winston-Salem, NC, USA > > Just a note to reiterate what Narda and Beth have said.... I often > > > have offered to help people from America who have no way of > getting > > photos of gravesites or accessing records book which have to be > > manually checked here in Europe. So don't be afraid to ask! > Sometimes > > just a friendly request will get you a long way. Of course it is > > always nice when people offer to pay for gas or postage also but > for > > the most part, I do what I can when asked. > > > > As an American that moved to Europe, I can tell you that it is not > > > easy and there are so many things you miss the first time around. > I > > came here specifically to find the information of my ancestors. > (that > > was over 4 years > > ago!) The first time I visited the village where my Great > > Grandparents were born and married, I thought I had hit a gold > mine!! > > I got copies of their birth, marriage and baptism records as well > as > > all the records for their > > parents and siblings! But when I returned just for a vacation a > year > > later > > I realized how much I missed just by not talking to the local town > people! > > There were stories, old friends and relatives to talk to and even > fotos!! > > So > > even when you think you have it all, look again, and TALK to > people! > > Oh and don't worry about bad language skills... most people in > Europe > > speak at least a bit of English and if you at least put forth an > > effort to communicate in their language, they will reciprocate and > use > > what English they know for you. > > > > Phone books are a great resource but in Europe they are not always > > > reliable. > > But the local Rathuis is! Everyone in Europe is required to sign > in > > at a local registry when they move into an area and then carry a > slip > > of paper that shows to what zone they belong to. For instance, > when > > living in Berlin if you move from Postdam to Charlottenburg you > have > > to sign out at the Potsdam Rathuis and sign in at Charlottenburg. > > > > Best of Luck to everyone! > > Pamela Splettstoesser > > <http://www.palettemasters.com/> > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records > to > > be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >

Do you live close to Fürth or Nürnberg? I had relatives there that I am trying to get info on, I would be happy to reimburse you for any help you may be. I would love to get to live in Germany a while! Let me know the details and I will get you the Names.... Hopeful, Jim Throneburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Splettstoesser" <pamela@palettemasters.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Willing Assistance > Just a note to reiterate what Narda and Beth have said.... I often have > offered to help people from America who have no way of getting photos of > gravesites or accessing records book which have to be manually checked > here > in Europe. So don't be afraid to ask! Sometimes just a friendly request > will get you a long way. Of course it is always nice when people offer to > pay for gas or postage also but for the most part, I do what I can when > asked. > > As an American that moved to Europe, I can tell you that it is not easy > and > there are so many things you miss the first time around. I came here > specifically to find the information of my ancestors. (that was over 4 > years > ago!) The first time I visited the village where my Great Grandparents > were > born and married, I thought I had hit a gold mine!! I got copies of their > birth, marriage and baptism records as well as all the records for their > parents and siblings! But when I returned just for a vacation a year > later > I realized how much I missed just by not talking to the local town people! > There were stories, old friends and relatives to talk to and even fotos!! > So > even when you think you have it all, look again, and TALK to people! Oh > and > don't worry about bad language skills... most people in Europe speak at > least a bit of English and if you at least put forth an effort to > communicate in their language, they will reciprocate and use what English > they know for you. > > Phone books are a great resource but in Europe they are not always > reliable. > But the local Rathuis is! Everyone in Europe is required to sign in at a > local registry when they move into an area and then carry a slip of paper > that shows to what zone they belong to. For instance, when living in > Berlin > if you move from Postdam to Charlottenburg you have to sign out at the > Potsdam Rathuis and sign in at Charlottenburg. > > Best of Luck to everyone! > Pamela Splettstoesser > <http://www.palettemasters.com/> > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be > added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Emdunn0226@aol.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > > All excellent advice but I would also like to add one of my favorite > translation sites, this is good for German and French: > _http://www.freetranslation.com/_ (http://www.freetranslation.com/) > > This isn't perfect but it's better than most. > > I also have several German Dictionaries here at home, Langenscheidt's New > College German Dictionary being one of them, plus an extensive wordlist of my > own that I have added to over the last 12 years. I am more than happy to look > up a few words or a sentence but cannot transcribe whole paragraphs because > it is too time consuming. Also, there will always be that proverbial word > that cannot be found anywhere, since each scribe is different. However, I am > always willing to try. > > Here are 3 great Latin Dictionary sites: > > Latin Names & Abbreviations: > > _http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:m7wJLieuVGUJ:www.british-genealogy.com/r es > ources/registers/registers/latinnames.htm+latin+%2B+transcribe&hl=en&ie=UTF- 8_ > > (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:m7wJLieuVGUJ:www.british-genealogy.com/r esources/registers/registers/latinnames.htm+latin+++transcribe&hl=en&ie=UTF- 8) > > LATINE - ENGLISH DICTIONARY > _http://www.genealogy.ro/dictionary/lat_eng_s.htm_ > (http://www.genealogy.ro/dictionary/lat_eng_s.htm) > > Glossary of Latin Words > _http://bible-history.com/latin/_ (http://bible-history.com/latin/) > > Good Luck in your search, > Peggy in Utah > > > In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:59:27 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > silverbear@sympatico.ca writes: > > I would just like to back up Beth's remarks. It is amazing what can be > found with a little foot work and a whole lot of common sense. > One doesn't have to spend money to buy books when you can use them from > the library and there are some great basic guides available also at your > local Archives. Even our little town of 900 people has an archives and the > one in the larger town 8 miles away has an extremely knowledgeable person > who was more than happy to recommend all sorts of connections, sites and > references when I was starting out. > GOOGLE, as often recommended on this site, is an unbelievable resource > to the beginner as well as those of us who have been searching for years. > Do remember to go back again and again if you are not successful the first > time, because everyday more info is being loaded unto their site. It > happened that way for me, where literally one day there was nothing and the > very next evening I found a gold mind of information. > Every province and state has a genealogical society where you can visit, > join or whatever you desire to do. These places are full of people who have > run before you and often have a language expertise in German, French, > Italian, Polish or whatever you need. > If you are needing Latin to be translated look for an older priest in > your community or a retired Latin teacher. But as Beth said there are all > sorts of pages you can download from the LDS site or elsewhere that give you > all the key words that genealogists use in birth, baptism, marriage and > death certificates. > As Wolf keeps saying to folk, try the phone books in Germany and other > European countries. I have had great success with them and even when people > answered who weren't related, they sometimes still volunteered to check > things out for me, which I thought was so amazing. > I don't mean to be boring but everything you need is at your fingertips, > maybe not always the end answer, but great sign posts that send you down the > right roads that lead to finding that long forgotten family ancestor. > Narda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave or Beth Arnott" <dsarnott@execpc.com> > To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:49 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > I've been on this list for, oh, about a year or two, and have some > friendly suggestions........ > > > > If you come across something written in Latin or German or? and don't know > the language, there are many translation websites on the Web. > German/English translation dictionaries should be available at your local > public library. > > > > Maps and locations may be a little trickier to find on your computer. > Your library can help there, too. > > > > There are many excellent encyclopedias with articles about World/European > history, Germany, Bavaria, etc. at your library. > > > > Your public library should also have books on world history, > emigration/immigration, European history, as well as German and Bavarian > history. > > > > I realize that we all come to this list with different levels of > experience. And those of us who have been here for a while are always glad > to help those who are "newbies." Sometimes one has to hike, bike,or drive > to the library and do a little digging in this business to get the best > results. Your public library is a treasure trove of information. They may > not have your family's history, but they have tons of good, basic, helpful > genealogical information. > > > > Best Wishes to all, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be > added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records >

Thank you so much for sending the site for translating. I did not have any thing like that. Dona O

All excellent advice but I would also like to add one of my favorite translation sites, this is good for German and French: _http://www.freetranslation.com/_ (http://www.freetranslation.com/) This isn't perfect but it's better than most. I also have several German Dictionaries here at home, Langenscheidt's New College German Dictionary being one of them, plus an extensive wordlist of my own that I have added to over the last 12 years. I am more than happy to look up a few words or a sentence but cannot transcribe whole paragraphs because it is too time consuming. Also, there will always be that proverbial word that cannot be found anywhere, since each scribe is different. However, I am always willing to try. Here are 3 great Latin Dictionary sites: Latin Names & Abbreviations: _http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:m7wJLieuVGUJ:www.british-genealogy.com/res ources/registers/registers/latinnames.htm+latin+%2B+transcribe&hl=en&ie=UTF-8_ (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:m7wJLieuVGUJ:www.british-genealogy.com/resources/registers/registers/latinnames.htm+latin+++transcribe&hl=en&ie=UTF-8) LATINE - ENGLISH DICTIONARY _http://www.genealogy.ro/dictionary/lat_eng_s.htm_ (http://www.genealogy.ro/dictionary/lat_eng_s.htm) Glossary of Latin Words _http://bible-history.com/latin/_ (http://bible-history.com/latin/) Good Luck in your search, Peggy in Utah In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:59:27 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, silverbear@sympatico.ca writes: I would just like to back up Beth's remarks. It is amazing what can be found with a little foot work and a whole lot of common sense. One doesn't have to spend money to buy books when you can use them from the library and there are some great basic guides available also at your local Archives. Even our little town of 900 people has an archives and the one in the larger town 8 miles away has an extremely knowledgeable person who was more than happy to recommend all sorts of connections, sites and references when I was starting out. GOOGLE, as often recommended on this site, is an unbelievable resource to the beginner as well as those of us who have been searching for years. Do remember to go back again and again if you are not successful the first time, because everyday more info is being loaded unto their site. It happened that way for me, where literally one day there was nothing and the very next evening I found a gold mind of information. Every province and state has a genealogical society where you can visit, join or whatever you desire to do. These places are full of people who have run before you and often have a language expertise in German, French, Italian, Polish or whatever you need. If you are needing Latin to be translated look for an older priest in your community or a retired Latin teacher. But as Beth said there are all sorts of pages you can download from the LDS site or elsewhere that give you all the key words that genealogists use in birth, baptism, marriage and death certificates. As Wolf keeps saying to folk, try the phone books in Germany and other European countries. I have had great success with them and even when people answered who weren't related, they sometimes still volunteered to check things out for me, which I thought was so amazing. I don't mean to be boring but everything you need is at your fingertips, maybe not always the end answer, but great sign posts that send you down the right roads that lead to finding that long forgotten family ancestor. Narda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave or Beth Arnott" <dsarnott@execpc.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > Hi Listers, > > I've been on this list for, oh, about a year or two, and have some friendly suggestions........ > > If you come across something written in Latin or German or? and don't know the language, there are many translation websites on the Web. German/English translation dictionaries should be available at your local public library. > > Maps and locations may be a little trickier to find on your computer. Your library can help there, too. > > There are many excellent encyclopedias with articles about World/European history, Germany, Bavaria, etc. at your library. > > Your public library should also have books on world history, emigration/immigration, European history, as well as German and Bavarian history. > > I realize that we all come to this list with different levels of experience. And those of us who have been here for a while are always glad to help those who are "newbies." Sometimes one has to hike, bike,or drive to the library and do a little digging in this business to get the best results. Your public library is a treasure trove of information. They may not have your family's history, but they have tons of good, basic, helpful genealogical information. > > Best Wishes to all, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records

Just a note to reiterate what Narda and Beth have said.... I often have offered to help people from America who have no way of getting photos of gravesites or accessing records book which have to be manually checked here in Europe. So don't be afraid to ask! Sometimes just a friendly request will get you a long way. Of course it is always nice when people offer to pay for gas or postage also but for the most part, I do what I can when asked. As an American that moved to Europe, I can tell you that it is not easy and there are so many things you miss the first time around. I came here specifically to find the information of my ancestors. (that was over 4 years ago!) The first time I visited the village where my Great Grandparents were born and married, I thought I had hit a gold mine!! I got copies of their birth, marriage and baptism records as well as all the records for their parents and siblings! But when I returned just for a vacation a year later I realized how much I missed just by not talking to the local town people! There were stories, old friends and relatives to talk to and even fotos!! So even when you think you have it all, look again, and TALK to people! Oh and don't worry about bad language skills... most people in Europe speak at least a bit of English and if you at least put forth an effort to communicate in their language, they will reciprocate and use what English they know for you. Phone books are a great resource but in Europe they are not always reliable. But the local Rathuis is! Everyone in Europe is required to sign in at a local registry when they move into an area and then carry a slip of paper that shows to what zone they belong to. For instance, when living in Berlin if you move from Postdam to Charlottenburg you have to sign out at the Potsdam Rathuis and sign in at Charlottenburg. Best of Luck to everyone! Pamela Splettstoesser <http://www.palettemasters.com/>

Hi List, Casper Theobald married Maria Katherina Ochs in 1799 in Reinheim Rheinland Phalz. Casper lists his village as BliesBrucken. I can,t find a BliesBrucken or anything close in the German ADAC Atlas. There is a Brucken? Does anyone know if there is an old spelling for a village, Bliesbrucken near Reinheim or was the Blies dropped from the village of Brucken? Thanks in advance. Gary

Another good place to search is the ELCA (Lutheran) Library in Philadelphia. For those who came over attached to the Reformed or Lutheran Church there are good records there. The address is on the net. Dorothy C. White dotwhite@comcast.net 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Narda Iulg [mailto:silverbear@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:01 PM > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > > > I would just like to back up Beth's remarks. It is > amazing what can be found with a little foot work and a whole > lot of common sense. > One doesn't have to spend money to buy books when you > can use them from the library and there are some great basic > guides available also at your local Archives. Even our > little town of 900 people has an archives and the one in the > larger town 8 miles away has an extremely knowledgeable > person who was more than happy to recommend all sorts of > connections, sites and references when I was starting out. > GOOGLE, as often recommended on this site, is an > unbelievable resource to the beginner as well as those of us > who have been searching for years. Do remember to go back > again and again if you are not successful the first time, > because everyday more info is being loaded unto their site. > It happened that way for me, where literally one day there > was nothing and the very next evening I found a gold mind of > information. > Every province and state has a genealogical society where > you can visit, join or whatever you desire to do. These > places are full of people who have run before you and often > have a language expertise in German, French, Italian, Polish > or whatever you need. > If you are needing Latin to be translated look for an > older priest in > your community or a retired Latin teacher. But as Beth said > there are all > sorts of pages you can download from the LDS site or > elsewhere that give you all the key words that genealogists > use in birth, baptism, marriage and death certificates. > As Wolf keeps saying to folk, try the phone books in > Germany and other European countries. I have had great > success with them and even when people answered who weren't > related, they sometimes still volunteered to check things out > for me, which I thought was so amazing. > I don't mean to be boring but everything you need is at > your fingertips, maybe not always the end answer, but great > sign posts that send you down the right roads that lead to > finding that long forgotten family ancestor. > Narda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave or Beth Arnott" <dsarnott@execpc.com> > To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:49 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > I've been on this list for, oh, about a year or two, and have some > friendly suggestions........ > > > > If you come across something written in Latin or German or? > and don't > > know > the language, there are many translation websites on the Web. > German/English translation dictionaries should be available > at your local public library. > > > > Maps and locations may be a little trickier to find on your > computer. > Your library can help there, too. > > > > There are many excellent encyclopedias with articles about > > World/European > history, Germany, Bavaria, etc. at your library. > > > > Your public library should also have books on world history, > emigration/immigration, European history, as well as German > and Bavarian history. > > > > I realize that we all come to this list with different levels of > experience. And those of us who have been here for a while > are always glad to help those who are "newbies." Sometimes > one has to hike, bike,or drive to the library and do a little > digging in this business to get the best results. Your > public library is a treasure trove of information. They may > not have your family's history, but they have tons of good, > basic, helpful genealogical information. > > > > Best Wishes to all, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish > records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to > research? Contact > mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > >

I would just like to back up Beth's remarks. It is amazing what can be found with a little foot work and a whole lot of common sense. One doesn't have to spend money to buy books when you can use them from the library and there are some great basic guides available also at your local Archives. Even our little town of 900 people has an archives and the one in the larger town 8 miles away has an extremely knowledgeable person who was more than happy to recommend all sorts of connections, sites and references when I was starting out. GOOGLE, as often recommended on this site, is an unbelievable resource to the beginner as well as those of us who have been searching for years. Do remember to go back again and again if you are not successful the first time, because everyday more info is being loaded unto their site. It happened that way for me, where literally one day there was nothing and the very next evening I found a gold mind of information. Every province and state has a genealogical society where you can visit, join or whatever you desire to do. These places are full of people who have run before you and often have a language expertise in German, French, Italian, Polish or whatever you need. If you are needing Latin to be translated look for an older priest in your community or a retired Latin teacher. But as Beth said there are all sorts of pages you can download from the LDS site or elsewhere that give you all the key words that genealogists use in birth, baptism, marriage and death certificates. As Wolf keeps saying to folk, try the phone books in Germany and other European countries. I have had great success with them and even when people answered who weren't related, they sometimes still volunteered to check things out for me, which I thought was so amazing. I don't mean to be boring but everything you need is at your fingertips, maybe not always the end answer, but great sign posts that send you down the right roads that lead to finding that long forgotten family ancestor. Narda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave or Beth Arnott" <dsarnott@execpc.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Just a suggestion > Hi Listers, > > I've been on this list for, oh, about a year or two, and have some friendly suggestions........ > > If you come across something written in Latin or German or? and don't know the language, there are many translation websites on the Web. German/English translation dictionaries should be available at your local public library. > > Maps and locations may be a little trickier to find on your computer. Your library can help there, too. > > There are many excellent encyclopedias with articles about World/European history, Germany, Bavaria, etc. at your library. > > Your public library should also have books on world history, emigration/immigration, European history, as well as German and Bavarian history. > > I realize that we all come to this list with different levels of experience. And those of us who have been here for a while are always glad to help those who are "newbies." Sometimes one has to hike, bike,or drive to the library and do a little digging in this business to get the best results. Your public library is a treasure trove of information. They may not have your family's history, but they have tons of good, basic, helpful genealogical information. > > Best Wishes to all, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe >

Hi Listers, I've been on this list for, oh, about a year or two, and have some friendly suggestions........ If you come across something written in Latin or German or? and don't know the language, there are many translation websites on the Web. German/English translation dictionaries should be available at your local public library. Maps and locations may be a little trickier to find on your computer. Your library can help there, too. There are many excellent encyclopedias with articles about World/European history, Germany, Bavaria, etc. at your library. Your public library should also have books on world history, emigration/immigration, European history, as well as German and Bavarian history. I realize that we all come to this list with different levels of experience. And those of us who have been here for a while are always glad to help those who are "newbies." Sometimes one has to hike, bike,or drive to the library and do a little digging in this business to get the best results. Your public library is a treasure trove of information. They may not have your family's history, but they have tons of good, basic, helpful genealogical information. Best Wishes to all, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT

Could anyone please tell me whether the name BREY is more common in one region of Bavaria than another, and if so, where? My great-grandfather Joseph BREY came to U.S. in 1867 and I would like to find out anything at all about the family's background. Thank you so much. Florence in North Carolina __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

I am planning a trip to the Mittelfranken area of Bavaria next week and hope to do a bit of research on my Christ / Brunner / Ebert / Baumann lines in the areas of Lehenbuch (Lehengutingen), Oberampfrach, Unterampfrach, and Unterhinterhof. I would like to get in touch with a fellow list member living in either The Netherlands or Germany that can give me some research advice. I am currently living in The Netherlands so time zone wise it is easier for me to contact someone here in Europe rather than the States. I have visited many of the links that have been posted via this message list and have obtained quite a bit of information already. However, I would like a bit of practical advice as well. I would like to be able to contact you over the phone either on Friday Sep 9 or over the weekend. Just to let you know, my conversational german is worse than my conversational dutch right now, so we'll need to be able to talk in english. Please respond directly to me at ripperhou2@yahoo.com. Thank you in advance, Randy Rippentrop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Fellow Roots WEB researchers, My current research task is to identify the Bavarian town or village from which my late wife's maternal MEIDENBAUER ancestors migrated to Buffalo, NY USA. George MEIDENBAUER was born in Germany 8 July 1844. George MEIDENBAUER married Margaret DAUT in 1870 in Germany. George MEIDENBAUER migrated to USA in 1882. George was employed in Buffalo NY as a Tailor. George MEIDENBAUER declared his intention to become a citizen of the United States 13 October 1884 in Erie County Court in Buffalo, Erie County, NY USA. George MEIDENBAUER died 16 September 1919 at Buffalo NY USA. He was buried on 20 September 1919. Margaret DAUT was born Feb 1850 in Germany. She died 19 September 1911 at Buffalo NY USA. When George MEIDENBAUER was age 27 and Margaret (nee DAUT) MEIDENBAUER was age 21 they became the parents of Jacob MEIDENBAUER during September 1871 in Germany. Jacob MEIDENBAUER died 7 May 1916 at Erie County Hospital. He was buried on 9 May 1916. The MEIDENBAUERS were listed as residents in the US Federal census report, 19 June 1900, Buffalo, Erie Co., NY, USA. Their American born son, Frank MEIDENBAUER, identified his parents' birthplace as Bavaria on the 1920 US Federal census. However, I have not yet located any information identifying the specific Bavarian village in which George MEIDENBAUER and Margaret DAUT married and gave birth to their first-born son Jacob MEIDENBAUER. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Patrick M. LOFFT

Charlie, You might also want to try the Saarland area. I've seen the SCHUTZ/SCHULTZ surname often there. The Trier, Germany message board picks up queries for Saarland, too. You can search it at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=TRIER-ROOTS Best of Luck -Kay > Subj: [BAVARIA] SCHUTZ ggrandparents > Date: 9/5/2005 2:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: alsor28@bellsouth.net > Reply-to: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet > > Hello, > > I'm looking for a needle in a haystack. > The needle is my ggrandparents > Ludwig Joseph SCHUTZ and > Dorothee SCHWENKE or SCHROCKE > I estimate their year of birth to be about 1820 > I'm pretty sure they lived on South 1st Street in Brooklyn, NY > > The only information I have about them comes from my grandparents New York > City marriage certificate and a death certificate for their son Ludwick Julius > SCHUTZ who died 9 nov 1914 at age 73 in the Borough of Queens. His date of > birth is given as 2 January 1841and place of birth as Germany. > They don't show up in any census and up to now I haven't been able to find a > death certificate for either of them. In fact I'm just guessing that they > came from Bavaria. > > Any help greatly appreciated and I mean GREATLY! > > Charlie in NC > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be > added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > >

Hello, I'm looking for a needle in a haystack. The needle is my ggrandparents Ludwig Joseph SCHUTZ and Dorothee SCHWENKE or SCHROCKE I estimate their year of birth to be about 1820 I'm pretty sure they lived on South 1st Street in Brooklyn, NY The only information I have about them comes from my grandparents New York City marriage certificate and a death certificate for their son Ludwick Julius SCHUTZ who died 9 nov 1914 at age 73 in the Borough of Queens. His date of birth is given as 2 January 1841and place of birth as Germany. They don't show up in any census and up to now I haven't been able to find a death certificate for either of them. In fact I'm just guessing that they came from Bavaria. Any help greatly appreciated and I mean GREATLY! Charlie in NC

Was your John Adam Shaller in the Civil War? Ask for his entire folder. You will learn many things such as his place of birth. Have you checked the church he attended when he first came to NY? The Seelenliste often gave the name of the birthplace. LaVerne BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: LaVerne, Researching BACHMANN, BOEHMKE, HEMMANN, HEINEMANN, LANDL, LINHARDT, OTTO, PIETSCHMANN, ROEHL, SEHLER, SIEVERS, TELLE, ZACHARIAE, ZEITLER

Thank you Christine for your help. It is much appreciated. Ray Scheller

I did this in Rheinzabern, Germany and found all of my husbands relatives. It was unbelievable! We have been there and they came here, so now we have a large family. They didn't even know they had relatives in USA. It also completed his family history.