Can anyone help me locate Hess, Germany? my ancestors listed that as their place of origin. And is there anyway to find any genealogy information from Hess? thanks, Jim

Hi List, I recieved this on another list and thought I would post it to this list in the hopes it might help someone here.. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Ohnmacht <yankee@mail.concordnc.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:36 PM Subject: [TSL] Passenger List from Church Records > Hi Shipmates.... > I got this from a post on the Lackawanna County List, which I am also subscribed to. It may be able to help someone. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------- > > LIST OF ARRIVAL IN PENNSYLVANIA OF PERSONS WHOSE NAMES APPEAR > > IN THE EARLY CHURCH RECORDS OF THE SAUCON ST. PAUL'S (BLUE) > > CHURCH. > > > > A paragraph below states: > > "This list is not a part of the church record, but was made up by culling > > names from the > > book "Pennsylvania German Pioneers" published by the Penna. German Society. > > Many > > of these persons did not permanently settle in the area, but seem to have > > moved on closer > > to the frontier as new lands were opened for settlement. A number settled in > > Plainfield > > Township, Northampton County, and in Hamilton Township, Monroe County. > > > > I was unable to locate any of the names I was personally researching, but > > decided to post > > the list in the event it MAY assist someone else in THEIR research. I have > > NO other > > information on any of these people other than what I am posting here. It is > > written in > > three columns which I'll try to duplicate here. > > > > NAME OF PERSON NAME OF SHIP DATE OF ARRIVAL > > > > Johann Appel St. Andrew Sept..26, 1737 > > Johan Friederick Altemus Lydia Sept. 27, 1740 > > Georg Altman Phoenix Sept. 15, 1749 > > Elias Beiteman Glasgow Aug. 29, 1730 > > Conrad Bittenbender St. Andrew Oct. 27, 1738 > > Jacob Brinker Mary June 28, 1735 > > Balthaser Beil St. Andrew Sept. 26, 1737 > > Georg Basel Harle Sept. 1, 1736 > > Joh. Jacob Beutelman Nancy Aug. 31, 1750 > > Georg Blanck Peggy Sept. 24, 1753 > > Leonhard Bock Britannia Sept. 21, 1731 > > Andreas Berlieb Neptune Sept 24, 1751 > > J. Casper Brenner Samuel Aug. 17, 1733 > > Johan Wilhelm Bottger Two Brothers Sept. 15, 1752 > > Johan Jacob Bildhaus Friendship Nov. 2, 1744 > > Ludwig Busch Edinburg Sept. 14, 1753 > > J. Jost Bingeman Edinburg Sept. 30, 1754 > > Peter Conrad Two Brothers Oct 13, 1747 > > Abraham Dannehouer Nancy Oct 8, 1737 > > Friedrich Dorfflinger Mary Sept 29, 1733 > > Philip Trapp Nancy Sept 20, 1738 > > > > > > Andreas Diemer Phoenix Aug 28, 1750 > > Casper Doll Samuel Aug 27, 1739 > > Johan Georg Dannenhauer Nancy Oct 8, 1737 > > Peter Ludwig Dewald Friendship Nov. 2, 1744 > > Johan Justus Ermdan St. Andrew Sept 26, 1737 > > Peter Eisenman Phoenix Sept 15, 1749 > > Christoph Fuchs Lydia Sept 27, 1740 > > Michael Feger Rawley Oct 23, 1752 > > Paulus Frantz Samuel Aug 30, 1737 > > Jacob Gangewehr James Goodwill Sept 27, 1727 > > Friedrich Germerdung Loyal Judith Sept 3, 1742 > > Hans Geradwoll Speedwell Sept 25, 1749 > > Balzer Gotz Duke of Wurtemberg Oct 16, 1751 > > Johan Adam Gebhard Bannister Oct. 21, 1754 > > Johannes Gann Nancy Aug 31, 1750 > > Adam Gramlich Patience Sept 19, 1749 > > Johan Adam Heist Neptune Sept 24, 1751 > > Christoph Heller Winter Sept 5, 1738 > > Leonhard Hirtzel Plaisance Sept 21, 1732 > > Johan Casper Hoppler Patience Sept 16, 1748 > > Elias Hummel Richard & Mary Sept26, 1752 > > Peter Philip Hahn Phoenix Oct 20, 1744 > > J. Frederich Robert & Alice Sept 24, 1742 > > Christian Homberger Nancy Sept 27, 1752 > > Hans Michael Heller Phoenix Sept 15, 1749 > > Conrad Hertzel Enterprise Dec 6, 1738 > > Conrad Jost Phoenix Sept 15, 1749 > > Ludwig June Edinburgh Sept 14, 1753 > > Christian Jackel St. Andrew Sept 12, 1734 > > Johan Zacharias Jahn Queen of Denmark Nov 3, 1752 > > Gabriel Kohler Francis & Elizabeth Sept 21, 1742 > > Mattias Kern Two Brothers Oct 13, 1747 > > Barnhard Kuntz Pleasant Oct 11, 1732 > > Eberhard Krieling Janet Oct 7, 1751 > > Jurg Kochel Peggy Oct 16, 1754 > > Valentin Kleter Lydia Sept 14, 1751 > > Jacob Kammerer Janet Oct 7, 1751 > > Lorenz Kunkel Duke of Bedford Sept 14, 1751 > > J. Thomas Leininger Bennet Aug 13, 1750 > > J. Michael Lutz Phoenix Nov.2, 1752 > > Peter Laubenstein Prince of Wales Nov 5, 1764 > > Ludwig Moser Speedwell Sept 25, 1749 > > Stephan Maisch Lydia Oct 19, 1749 > > > > > > Philip Jacob Maurer Patience Aug 11, 1750 > > Hans Adam Meister Mary & Sarah Oct 23, 1754 > > Jacob Mollac Nancy Sept 27, 1752 > > Joh. Friedrich Nochtern Queen Elizabeth Sept 16, 1738 > > Heinrich Ott Francie & Elizabeth Sept 21, 1742 > > Hans Mathias Otto Two Brothers Sept 15, 1748 > > Philip Raub Loyal Judith Sept 25, 1732 > > Henrich Rumfeld St. Andrew Sept 12, 1734 > > Jocob Rumfeld St. Andrew Sept 12, 1734 > > Hans Jacob Ritschi Mercury May 29, 1735 > > Heinrich Rudolph Francis & Elixabeth Aug 30, 1743 > > Martin Ritter Phoenix Sept 15, 1749 > > Valentin Reimer Edinburgh Sept 5, 1748 > > J. Casper Rumetsch Peggy Sept 24, 1753 > > Valentin Steinmetz St. Andew Sept 26, 1737 > > Melchior Stecher Adventure Sept 23, 1732 > > Ludwig Shutz Dragon Sept 30, 1732 > > Peter Staudt Glasgow Sept 9, 1738 > > Adam Schnell Robert & Alice Sept 11, 1738 > > Georg Friedrich Siel Edinburgh Sept 15, 1749 > > Lorentz Schmidt Phoenix Sept 25, 1751 > > Jacob Stehli Duke of Wurtemberg Oct 20, 1752 > > Johan Engel Schroder Forest Oct10, 1752 > > Jacob Stier Fane Oct 17, 1749 > > Hans Ulrich Schleppi Phoenix Aug 28, 1750 > > Johan Philip Shutz Samuel Aug 11, 1732 > > Hans Philip Schulp Nancy Oct 8, 1737 > > Hans Jerg Steidinger Rawley Oct 23, 1752 > > Peter Schwab Mary June 28, 1735 > > Heinrich Sponheimer Richard & Mary Sept 26, 1752 > > Baltzer Simon Pricilla Sept 12, 1750 > > Sebastian Steiger Eastern Branch Oct 3, 1753 > > Johan Georg Steigleider Jacob Oct 2, 1749 > > Barthel Scheible Patience Sept 16, 1748 > > Melchior Trautman Neptune Sept 24, 1751 > > Peter Ludwig Theobald St Andrew Sept 14, 1751 > > Casper Theobald Neptune Ocat 25, 1746 > > Valentin Uhler Nancy Oct 8, 1737 > > Johan Sebastian Unangst Two Brothers Sept 15, 1752 > > Friedrich Volck Mary & Sarah Oct 26, 1754 > > Balthaser Vetterman Patience Aug 11, 1750 > > > > > > Andreas Windt Robert & Alice Dec 3, 1740 > > Carl Heinrich Werkhauser Phoenix Oct 1, 1754 > > Michael Wacker Edinburghf Sept 15, 1749 > > Conrad Walb St. Andrew Sept. 26, 1737 > > Andreas Weltz Samuel August 17, 1733 > > Johan Jacob Zigenfus Brothers Sept 16, 1751 > > > > > > Because this list was copied for the benefit of all researchers, please feel > > free to copy and > > or forward it to any link you feel may benefit from the information. I would > > like to hear > > from anyone who has managed to find a link within these pages. I can be > > reached at > > DIBREN4079@aol.com > > > > > > ==== PALACKAW Mailing List ==== > > PALACKAW-L/D Subscribers -- Have visited some of the surrounding counties? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/#Surrounding_Counties > > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/index.html#MailingList > > > Ron & Tammy Ohnmacht > Concord, North Carolina > Email: yankee@iocnet.net > Visit Our Family Genealogy Page at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4507 > > > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* THE PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Cyndi's List - Over 41,700 links in over 100 categories! > http://www.CyndisList.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

While searching thru the Parish register for the Catholic Church in Karlshuld, Bavaria, I found several families that originally came from elsewhere. Although I have a fairly detailed map of Bavria, I could not find these places. Can anyone help? 1. Muhlhausen (found lots of these, but which one??) the first time it is listed as Kastl, Muhlhousen; the second time as Muhlhausen, pfr. Utzenhofen 2. Fligelsbach, pfae__ (pfr.?) Hausen 3. Ingelstadt, Moosburg (I know where Ingelstatd is, but would Moosburg be a smaller town nearby? It's not on my map. Would a family from this town be found in the Church records at Ingelstadt, or would they be recorded at Moosburg only?) Thanks, Kathie Weigel - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- azazella __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ azazella@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / - -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

My great-grandfather, Joseph Plutz, was born 11/25/1841 in Blattnitz. I have a postcard from a relative in this area, but do not know where the present-day town is. The postcard shows a picture of a very small village and it's church. The only "Blattnitz" I found using the Jewish Shtetlseeker program was in Poland, which I do not believe is correct. Does anyone know of a Blattnitz in Germany or Czechoslovakia? Thanks!

One piece of information I read recently about the Palatinate and Bavaria is at: http://palam.org/~palam/palatine.htm Nancy Greneder@aol.com wrote: > > Dear List, I am not clear on the connection between Bavaria and the > Palatinate. I believe that at one time they were affiliated...but how, I > don't know. When was this and was this section ever known as Bavaria? > Would someone born in the Palatinate saynthat his birth place was Bavaria? I > think not but someone is trying to convince me that that could be the case. > Are there any good sources of maps of this region and Alsace during the 1800 > to 1870 period. Thanks for any information. DN > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:dsam@wasatch.com

Dear List, I am not clear on the connection between Bavaria and the Palatinate. I believe that at one time they were affiliated...but how, I don't know. When was this and was this section ever known as Bavaria? Would someone born in the Palatinate saynthat his birth place was Bavaria? I think not but someone is trying to convince me that that could be the case. Are there any good sources of maps of this region and Alsace during the 1800 to 1870 period. Thanks for any information. DN

So much for trying to help someone who SOLICITED for the address of a German researcher in a message to this link - see below (and now REFUSES to accept the desired address !) GV This was the original message: >-----Original Message----- >From: gary dufel <duf@ntplx.net> >To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: October 24, 1999 8:47 AM >Subject: [BAVARIA] Stangl line: Need a researcher in Munich area > > >>A friend has reached a dead end in searching an ancestor (STANGL) who was >from Krailling - near Munich. >> >>He is interested in locating someone in the area who does professional >research for a fee. >> >>If anyone on the list does this or has used someone, I would appreciate >hearing from you. >> >>By the way - this STANGL line goes back to a Georg Stangl b. abt 1800, >married Rosina OSTERMYER. They had 3 children: Anastasia, Francis Xavier, >Clara. >> >>Gary >> >> >> >> >>==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >>Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >>Bavaria-L users - send to bavaria-L-request >>Bavaria-D (digest) users - send to bavaria-D-request >> >

Will be glad to share information. Dick

I'm pretty sure the first town name should be spelled Miesbach (could also have been spelled in old records as Miehsbach). Just a guess. Hope you get info on the others. Karin karinsm@efn.org On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, nancy lyons wrote: > Cn anyone tell me where Miersbach or Mehrsbach Bavaria are? How about > Brebach Bavaria? Both on a catholic church marriage record from Most > Holy Redeemer in NYC. Thanks, Nancy > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:dsam@wasatch.com >

EileenDS wrote: > > Since everyone seems to be listing Bavarian towns they are searching for, I thought I'd throw mine in. I have two questions: > > 1. On a ship record for an ancestor's family from Bavaria (GRASSINGER), they list their town as Tornau. When using the various place searches, I get several matches. The family was supposedly from a town near Bamberg. Can anyone tell me if there is a town of Tornau near Bamberg? The information I found was: Tornau 106.3 miles SSW of Berlin Bamberg 213.3 miles SSW of Berlin So the two places are about 107 miles apart. > > 2. On another ship record for an ancestor (EMMENDORFER or EMMENDORF), the town listed appears to be Funsstadt. I can't match it on the place searches I've tried, although Meyers Orts lists a Funtenstadt. Can anyone tell me if Funtenstadt was in Bavaria? Could this be the same place, or should I keep looking? Again, using the ShtetlSeeker: http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm I found a Hundstadt which is 259 miles WSW of Berlin. Maybe the F is actually an H? > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > Eileen in SD > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Bavaria-L users - send to bavaria-L-request > Bavaria-D (digest) users - send to bavaria-D-request

Hello Christine, I think you may have been talking about me. I visited Laaber and Grossetzenberg this summer. Walked around both towns. Checked out both churches. Looked for gravestones with family names on them (found one or two possibilities, but cannot link them up at this time). I looked for Lippert names in the cemetery, but did not find any. Knocked on a Sinzinger door in Grossetzenburg and talked to a 30ish granddaughter. Her grandmother could not remember any of my family members and her grandfather was napping. The granddaughter did say she would ask some more questions of her older relatives. I was able to spend one day at the archives in Regensburg, and I did find records for both of my grandparents there. I hope to continue this line of research with the help of a professional researcher. Sincerely, Jennifer Komassa jenni@ctrpnt.com

Since everyone seems to be listing Bavarian towns they are searching for, I thought I'd throw mine in. I have two questions: 1. On a ship record for an ancestor's family from Bavaria (GRASSINGER), they list their town as Tornau. When using the various place searches, I get several matches. The family was supposedly from a town near Bamberg. Can anyone tell me if there is a town of Tornau near Bamberg? 2. On another ship record for an ancestor (EMMENDORFER or EMMENDORF), the town listed appears to be Funsstadt. I can't match it on the place searches I've tried, although Meyers Orts lists a Funtenstadt. Can anyone tell me if Funtenstadt was in Bavaria? Could this be the same place, or should I keep looking? Thanks a lot for any advice. Eileen in SD

Could someone on the list possibly help me out? I did a search to find possible relatives in Germany (Bavaria, specifically), and came up with 2 to try. When I e-mailed them, however, they bounced with the following messages: >@t-online.degermany>... Host unknown (Name server: t-online.degermany: host not >found) >@vr-web.degermany>... Host unknown (Name server: vr-web.degermany: host not >found) Since they came back with the host unknown (rather than address unknown), I figure the service may have changed names, and that these people might still be there, but with a different domain. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help Christine cvhbauman@aol.com

A friend has reached a dead end in searching an ancestor (STANGL) who was from Krailling - near Munich. He is interested in locating someone in the area who does professional research for a fee. If anyone on the list does this or has used someone, I would appreciate hearing from you. By the way - this STANGL line goes back to a Georg Stangl b. abt 1800, married Rosina OSTERMYER. They had 3 children: Anastasia, Francis Xavier, Clara. Gary

Am seeking information about my WINNERLINGs of Wurlitz. Anna WINNERLING married Johann Adam MUELLER about 1770 -- do not know place. Both were born in Wurlitz -- near Rehau. Name could also be WINTERLING, WUNDERLICH, etc. Trudy Lundy

Hi List! Can anyone help me understand the details of this message? Prefix: Rosenbach Rosenbach Part of: Neunkirchen GKZ : 09 4 74 154 County : | | +---- RegBez : | +------- Oberfranken Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 91077 Popul : 126 Locat : (Neunkirchen) 49d37m N 11d08m E Maps : TK25 6332 Erlangen Nord TK50 L6332 Forchheim Euro Ma51 -- Bug reports to Arthur.Teschler@uni-giessen.de Use GEO-Bug-Report as the subject to avoid automatic processing

Cn anyone tell me where Miersbach or Mehrsbach Bavaria are? How about Brebach Bavaria? Both on a catholic church marriage record from Most Holy Redeemer in NYC. Thanks, Nancy

Hello Carol, geo@genealogy.net returned "nothing found" for Kutzenburg. A second try with the spelling "Kutzenberg" returned the following: Prefix: Kutzenberg Kutzenberg Part of: Ebensfeld GKZ : 09 4 78 120 County : | | +---- Lichtenfels {LIF} RegBez : | +------- Oberfranken Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 96250 Popul : 201 Locat : (Ebensfeld) 50d04m N 10d57m E Maps : TK25 5931 Ebensfeld TK50 L5930 Ebern Euro Lf48 This and other "Town Locator" options can be found at: http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/towns.htm An additional online help can be found at the "Deutche Post" site at: http://www.plz-suche.de/plz_suche.dpag/engl/index.html So then it appears that (this) Kutzenberg is now (at least in an administrative capacity) a part of the town of Ebensfeld as shown above. Additionally, if you think this may be your village, the Landkreis (or county of) Lichtenfels has a website that you might find useful at: http://www.lichtenfels.de/ Then, you may wish to bounce around the Oberfranken site for clues at: http://www.oberfranken.de/ Best Wishes, Larry

I Find Marsbach 28 Km SW of Passau on the Danube, and Brebach-Feching in the Saarbrücken area ---------- > From: nancy lyons <NancyML@worldnet.att.net> > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BAVARIA] Where are these places? > Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 5:47 PM > > Cn anyone tell me where Miersbach or Mehrsbach Bavaria are? How about > Brebach Bavaria? Both on a catholic church marriage record from Most > Holy Redeemer in NYC. Thanks, Nancy > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:dsam@wasatch.com

In a message dated 10/22/1999 6:39:46 PM Central Daylight Time, karinsm@efn.org writes: << BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com >> Could Dendler possibly be a surname? I have a relative who was buried in the plot of his son-in-law and the only name on the stone is that family's name. We have a Dandler in our tree which is sometimes spelled Dendler. David