My ancient surname Küschwert is from Oberfranken,Bayern in the 15-16-17th centuries. Then it became Küspert and Kisseberth etc.... Question: Are the surnames Küspert and Kispert pronounced alike or almost alike? They both stem from the same small area in oberfranken. I believe Kispert came about later. Any ideas about the pronouncing of these 2 names. Thanks, gerald K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Dennis, Niederlindhart belongs to the Parish of Westen, diocese Regensburg. The Westen churchbooks are archived in the diocese archive in Regensburg and they go back to the year 1632. As the Regensburg bishops have always refused access to the LDS, there are no such records in Utah. By the way, one of the Regensburg bishops was Michael BUCHBERGER (born in 1874 in Jetzendorf). He was bishop of Regensburg from 1927 to 1961. I tell you this just in case that you complain about the attitude of the Regensburg bishops... Best Regards Georg Paulus, Hohenwart, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dennis Buckberger <dbuckber@tbaytel.net> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Samstag, 27. November 1999 04:59 Betreff: [BAVARIA] NIEDERLINDHART (Area records???) > I wonder if someone can help me with this problem. > > My ancestors (BUCHBERGER's) came to Canada from the Niederlindhart area >where they ere farmers since about 1795. I would like to access Parish >Records from the LDS (if they exist) but they do not have any record of that >location. If anyone is familiar with the area, I would appreciate knowing >which Parish (Roman Catholic) would encompass the Niederlinhart area. > > Dennis Buckberger > Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada > dbuckber@tbaytel.net > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Sister or Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

I wonder if someone can help me with this problem. My ancestors (BUCHBERGER's) came to Canada from the Niederlindhart area where they ere farmers since about 1795. I would like to access Parish Records from the LDS (if they exist) but they do not have any record of that location. If anyone is familiar with the area, I would appreciate knowing which Parish (Roman Catholic) would encompass the Niederlinhart area. Dennis Buckberger Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada dbuckber@tbaytel.net

I received several messages that did not address the question. http://familysearch.org/fhlc/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,180,0 I want to make clear the question is on the PLACE search problem. Please do not discuss this on the list. Just report your problems direct to me so I can take the printed-out messages directly to the person responsible for the mess. State what browser you use (Microsoft, Netscape, AOL, etc) and type of computer you use along with the problems you encountered (such as missing information, empty information, error messages, etc.) W. David Samuelsen

Hello Gerald, this should be Maximilian II, who became king of Bavaria in 1848. He was married on Oct 12, 1842 in Munich to Marie Hedwig of Prussia. He is the father of the famous king Ludwig II of Bavaria who built the castles Neuschwanstein, Hohenschwangau etc. More information see http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal01143 Regards Monika Pertsch pertsch@uni-bonn.de BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: [BAVARIA] > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:18:03 PST > From: "gerald KISABETH" <geraldkisabeth@hotmail.com> > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com > > To all you Bavarian experts, I have a question: > A relative was invited by the Bavarian Prince for his wedding. Here's the > story as told by the decendants: > > In 1842 John Nicholas Kispert and spose to be were engaged to be married. > The ruling Prince was also planning to be married. He sent out word to all > engaged couples of Bavaria if they might take part in the mass ceremony at > the Palace if they cared to. > 32 couples responed. > Anyway the story goes on............ > My question: Who was the Bavarian Prince that was married in 1842? How could > I obtain some information on the wedding. > Thanks to everybody. Happy Thanksgiving.. Gerald K.

Hello, I am researching the following names and have found locations for them, but I do not know which area these cities are located, can anyone help me with the locations of these cities and who to contact for further information. I know that Neustadt b. Cogurg is considered Bavaria, but am unsure of the others. Mueller-Litz from Lauscha(formerly the East Zone). Schellorn from Neustadt b. Coburg Lonecke from Krefeld (Prussia) Graefer (possible Loxstedt by Hamburg) Thank you for any help you might be able to give Miriam Grafer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com

I would like to see any messages from any of you who found to have problem with searching the Family History Library Catalog on the familysearch.org site at any time. I need to know exact problems you have encountered such as incomplete information or missing links or missing information whatsoever, etc, including how many times you had to go back and forth before you finally get the information you requested as well how many times you received the obnoxious error message. Do not discuss this on the list - just send to me off the lists so I can collect them and take directly to the programmers who still don't get it that their server programming is problemic. After all I live in Salt Lake City and I know who the contact person is for this problem. W. David Samuelsen

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE HAUBRICK FAMILY. ACCORDING TO WHAT MY DAD HAS TOLD ME THE ORIGINAL NAME WAS VON HAUBRICH AND THAT THE ANCESTOR THAT CAME OVER WAS NICHOLAS VON HAUBRICH THE NAME CHANGED TO HAUBRICK. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL NICHOLAS CAME FROM SOMEWHERE IN BAVARIA. AND POSSIBLY SETTLED IN EITHER WYNDOTT, MI OR BANGOR OR BATH ME. WHERE CAN I BEGIN TO LOOK FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THIS MAN. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THIS MAN WAS A BARON AND LAND HOLDER ACCORDING TO MY GRANDFATHER AND GREAT UNCLE NICHOLAS. MY DAD SAYS THEY USED TO QUARREL AS TO WHO WAS THE BARON. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP. HAPPY THANKSGIVING

Dear Listers, My apologies for sending Pryor family information on the Bavarian List. I guess it was one of my "senior moments" to which I am becoming more and more entitled. Tom of the Sebastians, Pauls and Schiedts

To all you Bavarian experts, I have a question: A relative was invited by the Bavarian Prince for his wedding. Here's the story as told by the decendants: In 1842 John Nicholas Kispert and spose to be were engaged to be married. The ruling Prince was also planning to be married. He sent out word to all engaged couples of Bavaria if they might take part in the mass ceremony at the Palace if they cared to. 32 couples responed. Anyway the story goes on............ My question: Who was the Bavarian Prince that was married in 1842? How could I obtain some information on the wedding. Thanks to everybody. Happy Thanksgiving.. Gerald K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Listers, It appears that our Robert Pryor arrived in VA, according to Gatewood Pryor's book, in 1673. Robert could have gone to England to get a wife in 1699, but I doubt it. I do not know that he was from England. Betty Green came to Gloucester, VA, and was probably married in VA not England. But I do not know for sure. Her parents were said to be Robert Green and Mary Pritchett. Maybe that is a clue. Tom

Our family has learned that "our immigrant" Adolf Bergbom manufactured the LINNEA Sewing machine in Chicago at the turn of the century. We are desperately looking for one. If any of you lovely people has a clue as to where there is one for sale, PLEASE contact me. Thank you, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING John Bergbom

Looking for connections to the following families: John POPP/BOPP born April 30, 1823 Bamburg. Died on December 02, 1902 Cambria County, Pennsylvania. Kunigunda SCHUETZ/SCHUTZ born March 20, 1835. Died on June 11, 1910 Cambria County, Pennsylvania. John and Kunigunda immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1854 and were married on December 31, 1854. John SCHUETZ and Christina GEISLER parents of Kunigunda. Andrew POPP/BOPP brother to John born abt 1833 also immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1854. George SCHRIFT born in 1816 in Bavaria. Immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1847. Died on February 05, 1885 in Cambria County, Pennsylvania. Jacob SCHRIFT brother to George born in 1820 in Bamburg. Immigrated in 1847 to Pennsylvania. Margaret ???? mother to George and Jacob born in Bavaria in 1792 died in 1875 in Cambria County, Pennsylvania also immigrated in 1847. Mary Ann POPP/BOPP possible sister to John and Andrew born in 1822 in Bamburg. Immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1847. Wife of Jacob SCHRIFT. Would be interested in hearing from anyone searching these names. Even if you have later dates and see no connection. I have more information on some of these people. Thanks, Jeremy jbopp@ns.gemlink.com

All, Am searching for information regarding the Bachmaier / Bockmire / Bachmayer / Bauchmire / Bachmair family from the Oberpfalz region of Bavaria. Informationen auf den Deutsch unten gelegen von der Seite. (Information in German located at bottom of page.) My branch of Bachmaier family came from the village/manor of Wolfsfeld, now part of Kastl, near Amberg in the Oberpfalz region of Bavaria. They owned land there but these lands were confiscated and they were forced to move in 1847 (not sure if this had any relation to events of 1848). They emigrated via Amberg, taking the Ship Schiller from Bremen to Baltimore, MD. Ships log lists family as Bachmeyer. Later moved to Frenchville, PA -- 1850 census lists family as Backman. In 1856 moved to Olean/Allegany, NY, head of family, Joseph, changed name to Bockmire to prevent mispronunciation. Came over with sisters, Barbara & John Ebauer (Abower) and Mary Margaret & Michael Neukam (Newcom), and brother George Bachmaier (Backman/Bockmire). Family documents also include listing of family as Bachmaier von Wolfefete. Have been told this may be the original Bohemian dialect name for Wolfsfeld. Joseph, born about 1815, in Wolfsfeld; married to Anna Kathrena (Katherine) Gutenberg, born 1824 in Kastl. Had children Margareut (b. 1844) and Conrad (b.1846) in Bavaria. Children John, Ferdinand, Mary, Joseph, Carolina, and Rosanna born in Frenchville, PA. Children Paul and Henry born in Allegany, NY. Any information would be helpful. Have written church and residents of village with no response. Also have written archives in Regensburg. Thank you very much. Derek AUF DEUTSCHE Bachmaier Familie Bachmaier / Bachmeyer / Bachmeier / Bockmire Bachmaier von Wolfefete. Wolfsfeld b. Kastl b. Amberg ? Bachmaier verbunden zu ? Schreiber. Sie hatten elf Kinder. ? Bachmaier - vier Kinder Namensunbekanntes George Bachmaier - ? John Bachmaier - geboren ca. 1820 Mary Margaret Bachmaier - geboren ca. 1812 verbunden zu Michael Neukam Maria Barbara Bachmaier - geboren ca. 1822 verbunden zu Johan Ebauer - geboren ca. 1812 Maria Catherine Bachmaier Elizabeth Bachmaier Joseph Bachmaier - geboren ca. 1815 in Wolfsfeld verbunden zu Anna Kathrena Guttenberg - geboren ca. 1824 in Kastl. Sie hatten zwei Kinder. Margeuret Bachmaier - geboren 30 Marz 1844 Conrad Bachmaier - geboren 7 April 1846 in Nurnberg. Ausgewandert nach Amerika von Amberg 1847. Guttenberg Familie Guttenberg / Guttenberger Joseph Guttenberg(er) (geboren ca. 1785) verbunden zu Kathrena Hietel (geboren ca. 1790/7). Sie hatten eine Tochter. Anna Kathrena (Katherine) Guttenberg - geboren ca. 1824 in Kastl verbunden zu Joseph Bachmaier - geboren ca. 1815 in Wolfsfeld Sie hatten zwei Kinder. Margeuret Bachmaier - geboren 30 Marz 1844 Conrad Bachmaier - geboren 7 April 1846 in Nurnberg. Ausgewandert nach Amerika von Amberg 1847. Vielen Dank, Derek Green

Israel > > on the basis the documents which are located in the city file Gunzenhausen to the joining > probably Wallerstein is coming Model > with from; Jud to 08.11.1667 the first representative of your family here demonstrably. > Model Jud father of deer Neumarck is probable (> 20,02,1694). Of its son Joel bar of Benjamin (11.11.1740; > verh. Rechele * around 1722) is > wierderum the son Joel bar of Benjamin; (14.11.1770; + 1813 ago) admits. > The Wittwe of the Joel bar of Neumarck, Doetzele married 1813 in second before > after Sulzburg. > > At common children ascertainable, Nathan wolf (* approx. 1784) are, Lazarus > Joel bar (1787), Vogele Kaja (* 1796, verh. around 1820 Sulzburg Maier Sussman) > as well as your direct moves Moses forward Joel bar (* 1785 in Gunzenhausen), > starting from 1813 the surname Joelsohn fuhrte. > > From its marriage with Rechele deer so far only the daughter Therese are > verh. > David Neustaedter and the son Joseph (* 182 Israel > > on the basis the documents which are located in the city file Gunzenhausen to the joining > probably Wallerstein is coming Model > with from; Jud to 08.11.1667 the first representative of your family here demonstrably. > Model Jud father of deer Neumarck is probable (> 20,02,1694). Of its son Joel bar of Benjamin (11.11.1740; > verh. Rechele * around 1722) is > wierderum the son Joel bar of Benjamin; (14.11.1770; + 1813 ago) admits. > The Wittwe of the Joel bar of Neumarck, Doetzele married 1813 in second before > after Sulzburg. > > At common children ascertainable, Nathan wolf (* approx. 1784) are, Lazarus > Joel bar (1787), Vogele Kaja (* 1796, verh. around 1820 Sulzburg Maier Sussman) > as well as your direct moves Moses forward Joel bar (* 1785 in Gunzenhausen), > starting from 1813 the surname Joelsohn fuhrte. > > From its marriage with Rechele deer so far only the daughter Therese are > verh. > David Neustaedter and the son Joseph (* 182 Neustaedter David wrote: > Hello, > I received this letter from the Gunzenhausen archiver, Mr. Mulhauser. > Could someone translate this letter to English and send it back? > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > David Neustaedter > > > > Israel > > > > anhand der im Stadtarchiv Gunzenhausen zur Verfugung stehenden Unterlagen > > ist vermutlich mit der Burgeraufnahme des aus Wallerstein stammenden Model > > Jud am 08.11.1667 der erste Vertreter Ihrer Familie hier nachweisbar. > > Wahrscheinlich ist Model Jud Vater von Hirsch Neumarck (Burgeraufnahme > > 20.02.1694). Von dessen Sohn Joel Bar Benjamin (Burgeraufnahme 11.11.1740; > > verh. Rechele * um 1722) ist wierderum der Sohn Joel Bar Benjamin > > (Burgeraufnahme 14.11.1770; + vor 1813) bekannt. > > Die Wittwe des Joel Bar Neumarck, Doetzele heiratete 1813 in zweiter ehe > > nach Sulzburg. > > > > An gemeinsamen Kindern sind feststellbar, Nathan Wolf (*ca. 1784), Lazarus > > Joel Bar (1787),Vogele Kaja (*1796, verh. um 1820 Sulzburg Maier Sussman) > > sowie Ihr unmittelbarer Vorfahre Moses Joel Bar (*1785 in Gunzenhausen), > > der ab 1813 den Familiennamen Joelsohn fuhrte. > > > > Aus seiner Ehe mit Rechele Hirsch sind bisher nur die Tochter Therese > > verh. > > David Neustaedter und der sohn Joseph (*1827 Gunzenhausen + 16.07.1902 > > Gunzenhausen; ledig), der als Buchhalter und Getreideeinkaufer tatig war, > > bekannt. > > > > Sehr geehrter Herr Neustaedter, > > ich ware Ihnen sehr dankbar, wenn Sie mir die Ihnen bekannten Daten zu > > Therese Neustaedter, geb. Joelsohn zur entsprechenden Erganzung der > > Personendokumentation im Stadtarchiv mitteilen konnten. > > > > Ich hoffe, Ihnen mit diesen Angaben weitergeholfen zu haben. > > Solten sich eventuell noch Fragen ergeben, stehe ich Ihnen gerne zur > > Verfugung. > > > > Mit freundlichen Grussen > > > > Mulhauser > > Archivar > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

Hi, My grandmother was named Kunigunda as one of her three names. However, her lide of the family came from Prussia. My research of the name has come up with the following quotes: #1. > Kunigunda was Empress, the wife of Henry II, Emperor. It just happened that > both she and her husband were canonized. (Other Kunigunda[s] were also > canonized which is why there are several different St Kunigunda's days in > the Catholic calendar of Saints. > > However, even Lutherans were known to name children after Catholic Saints. > Martin Luther did not plan on starting a new church, merely correcting the > errors and corruption in the then Catholic Church. > > And, of course, Kunigunda was Empress (Henry II was Holy Roman Emperor from > 1002 to 1024). > #2.....> > I am told that March 3, is St. Kanugunda Day. This person said that on > the Christian nameday is 3rd of March, and onthis day the soil starts to > warm up The German empress of the 11th century became a Saint and her > tomb is in Bamberg Cathedral. Kuni means kin, and gund means fight. > Fighting for her kin. So, I would assume that whether she was Catholic > or Lutherin; it didn't matter. It was what she stood for that made her > such a well admired Saint. Therefore, people named their children after > her. It would be interesting to find out more about her. #3. >> All of > my relatives from Hesse Darmstadt area were Evangelisch. I have seen > the name Kunigunda twice, and that is why I asked about this unusual > question. > > I am told that March 3, is St. Kanugunda Day. This person said that on > the Christian nameday is 3rd of March, and onthis day the soil starts to > warm up The German empress of the 11th century became a Saint and her > tomb is in Bamberg Cathedral. Kuni means kin, and gund means fight. > Fighting for her kin. So, I would assume that whether she was Catholic > or Lutherin; it didn't matter. It was what she stood for that made her > such a well admired Saint. Therefore, people named their children after > her. It would be interesting to find out more about her. #4.> I believe March 3 and July 24 are the name days for St(s) Kunigunda. The > July one, from memory, is for the Empress. Coral Williams Clwss@centex.net

I would imagine that Kunigunda was a fairly common German name. In my family we have Kunigunda Welsch, born 1806 in Birkach, Bavaria Kunigunda Pfannenschmidt from Birkach also. No dates. Mother of above. Kunigunde Mary Schad born 1829 in Dippach, Bavaria. In one census she was called Korney. Cynthia

"Kunigunda" is the latinized churchbook version of "Kunigunde". Saint Kunigunde died in 1033 or 1039. She was the daughter of Count Siegfried of Luxemburg and the wife of Emperor Heinrich II. Together with her husband she is known as the founder of the diocese of Bamberg (Franconia, Bavaria). She is buried in the cathedral of Bamberg. Her name is celebrated on July 13. Due to this history, Kunigunde has been a popular name certainly in Franconia, but also in other parts of Bavaria and Germany. I checked an ancestory file of 412 female individuals from Bavaria. 4 of them were baptised Kunigunde (1 of them in the 16th century, 3 in the 17th century). Today, if you check the German phone directory for certain female names (I did this in conjunction with the popular name SCHMIDT, as my system would not search for a first name only) you get the following results: Maria: 1002 hits Barbara: 435 hits Anna: 675 hits Berta: 109 hits Kreszenz: 3 hits Franziska: 98 hits Kunigunde: 15 hits I hope this information helps to get a better idea of the name Kunigunde today and in former times. Best Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jeannieg731@aol.com <Jeannieg731@aol.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Dienstag, 23. November 1999 21:42 Betreff: Re: [BAVARIA] Kunigunda name >I had a relative named >Kunigunda Vitzthum ... I suspect it was a popular name. The first time I saw >it I thought it was misspelled. It is an interesting name. >JeanieG731@AOL.com > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Dear List, If awards were given out for the most helpful lists Bavaria would win hands down! Thank you once again to Bruce,Diana,George, Cynthia, Georg, and Rudy who not only informed me of the correct spelling of my ggrandmothers name but that Kunigunda was a popular Saint's name. Susan researching: BECK, VOLLKOMMER, SOMMER AND HAUCK from Bavaria

Hello Rudy, Thank you for responding to my question about my ggrandmothers name. I have not only learned that Kunigunda is the correct spelling but that it was a very popular name to give one's daughter. The girls were named after Saint Kunigunda. I don't know when the saint lived but I have heard she was very popular. Susan