"Wehrstammbuch" and "Wehrpass" have to be considered together: The "Wehrpass" keeps record of the military carreer of a soldier, giving information on military degrees, and on the military units, to which the soldier belonged to. The "Wehrpass" was kept at the military unit, and moved with it. The "Wehrstammbuch" basically contained the same information as the "Wehrpass", but was kept at the central military administration (The "Wehrstammbuch" did not move with the soldier or the unit.) I hope this gives some explanation. Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Christine Lippert Fung <cfung@vvm.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 1999 15:34 Betreff: [BAVARIA] Wehrstammbuch >Grüße aus Texas!!! >Ich habe gerade eine Benachrichtigung von der - Deutschen Dienstelle fuer >die Benachrichtigung der naechsten Angehoerigen von Gefallenen der >ehemaligen Wehrmacht - erhalten. Und das obwohl mein Vater nicht gefallen >war, aber verwunded in Russland. Mir wurde gesagt, dass ein Wehrstammbuch >und sowie einige Einzel Unterlagen vorhanden sind. >Was ist ein Wehrstammbuch? Welche Information finde ich darin? > >Vielen Dank fuer Euere Hilfe und >Frohe Weihnachten, Merry Christmas. > >Greetings from Texas, >I just received a letter from a German Organization that keeps track of >German soldiers that died or are missing in Action in the last 2 wars. They >tell me that they have my fathers Wehrstammbuch and some other documents in >their possession. Does anybody know what that is and what info I might find >in it? >Thank you for all your help, >Frohe Weihnachten and Merry Christmas >Christine Lippert Fung > >Paramedic, CC VFD > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/u/n/Christine--Fung/ >http://www.vvm.com/~cfung/ > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Sister or Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

Hello Everyone, For those who are interested in what a rural turn-of-the-century Bavarian Christmas was like, take a look at this website. It is called Lindner-Lintner Memorabilia and it is located at the following url. This Christmas selection can be found under the Lindner heading. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~oldphoto/index.html Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2000. Mary Ann Lindner Allen --- Mary Ann Allen wallen@pipeline.com The Gathering Place http://sites.netscape.net/murrallen/homepage

Hi, Many (maybe even many, many) months ago I came across a reference to a resource that was roughly translated into "family books". I understand that these are available at many archives, and essentially are pedigrees of given families, often going back centuries. I believe that they were produced by parish priests. What I need to know is the actualy German name for these resources. So, if anyone out there knows what I am talking about, and knows the correct name, would you please email same to me, directly, at franalm@yahoo.com Please don't write and ask me for more information, as I have given all I can remember, and only wish I had more to give. Many thanks for any assistance. Frances Almstrom franalm@yahoo.com Tucson, Arizona __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com

Hi all, Having known little about my Bavarian roots until recently, I am wondering, what is a Bavarian Krippe? Some type of ornamental/religious decoration for Christmas? I really should have known I was Bavarian all along, considering my fondness for Bavarian cream filling........:-) Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me, Joanne

Where does one find voter's registration records? Thanks, David

I have a copy of the naturalization certificate of one family member and it shows nothing helpful. You need to find a copy of their letter of intent. That is the document with lots of info. But remember they may file a letter of intent one place and get their naturalization certificate in a different state. Mary Lou, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <GMPeiffer@aol.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] naturalization records > I have the same question as Linda. My ancestor, Frederick Pfeiffer (Peiffer) > came from Bavaria to Pennsylvania in 1860, probably with his wife Margaretta. > Census data indicated he was "naturalized" in 1861. Maybe they came in > through Philly. I do know that Fredericks brother "sponsored" him to come > over. So, the questions I have are: > > 1. Building on Linda's questions, how can I find his Naturaliation records? > > 2. What is the best approach to finding records of Fredericks mother and > father in Bavaria? Would the naturalization records, if found, help here? > > Gary M. Peiffer > Glen Rock, PA > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. > mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >

Grüße aus Texas!!! Ich habe gerade eine Benachrichtigung von der - Deutschen Dienstelle fuer die Benachrichtigung der naechsten Angehoerigen von Gefallenen der ehemaligen Wehrmacht - erhalten. Und das obwohl mein Vater nicht gefallen war, aber verwunded in Russland. Mir wurde gesagt, dass ein Wehrstammbuch und sowie einige Einzel Unterlagen vorhanden sind. Was ist ein Wehrstammbuch? Welche Information finde ich darin? Vielen Dank fuer Euere Hilfe und Frohe Weihnachten, Merry Christmas. Greetings from Texas, I just received a letter from a German Organization that keeps track of German soldiers that died or are missing in Action in the last 2 wars. They tell me that they have my fathers Wehrstammbuch and some other documents in their possession. Does anybody know what that is and what info I might find in it? Thank you for all your help, Frohe Weihnachten and Merry Christmas Christine Lippert Fung Paramedic, CC VFD http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/u/n/Christine--Fung/ http://www.vvm.com/~cfung/

Dear Gary, The best way I've found to find naturalization records is through the 1867 voters registration. If you know the county that they were in, in that year, look them up on the registration. If they voted, and if they were naturalized then they probably did, then in one of the columns it should tell the county they were naturalized in. Write to that county and request the records. Good luck! -Tanya in Austin, TX

I have the same question as Linda. My ancestor, Frederick Pfeiffer (Peiffer) came from Bavaria to Pennsylvania in 1860, probably with his wife Margaretta. Census data indicated he was "naturalized" in 1861. Maybe they came in through Philly. I do know that Fredericks brother "sponsored" him to come over. So, the questions I have are: 1. Building on Linda's questions, how can I find his Naturaliation records? 2. What is the best approach to finding records of Fredericks mother and father in Bavaria? Would the naturalization records, if found, help here? Gary M. Peiffer Glen Rock, PA

Hi. I am trying to locate the naturalization record for Christian BAITHER that came to America from Bavaria, Germany around the 1860's. I haven't been able to find a ship record for him so I don't know what port he came in to. I believe he came straight to Franklin Co., IN. Where would the naturalization record for him be? What information would this tell me? Thanks, Linda McCashland inker@si-net.com Liberty, IN

Records of the naturalization of my ancestor in 1849 show that he was from Bavaria. Subsequently, I learned that the name of his village was Birkenhoerdt, which is roughly half way between a straight line from Saarbruecken and Karlsruehe, altho slightly north of it. The geoserver says that it is in the Rheinhessen-Pfalz. So does that mean that it's in the Pfalz nowadays, no longer in Bavaria?...And I've never heard of Rheinhessen-Pfalz, only Rheinland-Pfalz. I take it that these are two different entitites? Can someone tell me where I should write to find records of births or baptisms of those from Birkenhoerdt (I guess it would be the same for Bollenborn which is less than a mile away?). My ggmo was Lutheran in the US, but I don't know what religion her father was in Germany; so it'd be good to have addresses for both Catholic and Evangelische archives. Thanks in advance. Jane in AZ thaia@goodnet.com

Die Seybert Familie aus Waldfischbach, Rhein, D. hat gerne Pfannkuchen aus gesäuertem Weizenteig gegessen. Sie ließen sich im Columbia County, Pensylvannien, nieder, nachdem sie aus der Philadelphia Gegend ca. 1790 hochzogen. Die Neiman/Neuman Familie könnte aus den deutsch besiedelten Gebieten in den Weizenkammern von Polen, Belarus, oder der Ukraine stammen. Deren Nachkommen liebten auch Pfannkuchen aus gesäuertem Weizenteig. Hat man um die 1750 gerne Pfannkuchen aus gesäuertem Weizenteig sonst wo in Deutschland gegessen? ****************************** The Seybert family from Waldfischbach, Rhein, Germany loved sour set back buckwheat pancakes. They settled in Columbia County, Pennsylvania, after coming up from Philadelphia area around 1790. .... The Neiman/Neuman family may have lived in German speaking areas near the buckwheat growing areas of Poland, Belarus, or the Ukraine. Their descendants also loved sour Buckwheat pancakes. About 1750 were sour set back buckwheat pancakes popular anywhere in Germany?. Regards Hal

looking for anyone with information on the surname of: KISPERT or Küspert (KUESPERT) from the Oberfranken, Bayern area. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I can't help you either, but I have a great grandmother who's middle name is Susanna Babette Roth. She was born Sept 14, 1869. I am sure that Babette was a popular name back then. Rudy > Richard, I can't help you, but your grandmother's name caught my eye, > having the name Babette. My grnadmother's middle name was Babette. She was > from the Nurnberg area and a Roman Catholic. I thought it strange, since > it sounds French. Do you kinow of any history of the name? Thanks, Linda > Los Angeles > > ______________________________

Hi, Might anyone know of a good URL which would outline German migration patterns (specifically Bavaria to Canada and US) and which is in ENGLISH? Thanks, Joanne Parmley

My gggrandfather was born in Bavaria around 1851. His name was Louis Slessinger. Some family members have said that the spelling changed and that they were Jewish. The next place I have Louis is in Lafayette Indiana around 1876 where he married Carrie PRICE of Kentucky. If anyone on the list can help me with find out any more about this one I'd be most grateful. William Doyle mdoyle@cfl.rr.com

Hi Nancy, I have heard of the book, but as yet I have not tried to get it. /does anyone know if it is available at the FHL? Clara Gdee

Hi, I just went to "ask.com" and asked about Hessian mercenaries. I learned that they included not only soldiers from Hesse, but from many areas of Germany including Bavaria (especially in Ansbach, I believe). I person named Schwalm has a web page dedicated to the Hessian mercenaries. Sr. Marjorie

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: GGWKirk@aol.com <GGWKirk@aol.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Dienstag, 14. Dezember 1999 15:47 Betreff: Re: [BAVARIA] address >In a message dated 12/14/99 8:12:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, >allenw@buffnet.net writes: > >> Could some give me the address to the archives in Regensburg, Germany. I >need >> someone do some research for me. If any one can recommend some I would >> appreciate it also. >> Bill Allen >> NY USA > > > >Landeskirchliches Archiv >Kirchenbucharchiv, >Am Olberg 2 >993047 Regensburg > >They supplied me with much information. Took my family back to 1750. > >G. Kirk I guess that is the address of the Lutheran Church. The catholic archive's address is as follows: Bischoefliches Zentralarchiv St. Petersweg 93047 Regensburg Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Has anyone ever heard of a book called "Atlantic Bridge to Canada" by Charles M. Hall published by Everton I think? Someone mentioned that it is a useful tool in German research. Thanks, Nancy