Looking for information on Lewis POPPENHEIM (PAPPENHEIM). He was born in Stanheim in Hessen on the 11th of November 1750. He came to the U.S. in 1776. I was told this was near Bavaria. His son John was born same place on 20th day of October in 1776. Do not know who his mother was. Also family history is that there was a Pappenheim Castle in the family. Sure hope someone can help me with this family. Thank you, Evelyn http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/2418/main.html

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Hello! Wondering if there was ever such a place called "Himmenthal" Bavaria... I have a story that says my ancestors are from there, but I cant find any reference to that place and am wondering if maybe it is a wrong spelling and what the real city might be. Thanks! Katie O'Connor peanuts4me@jps.net

I have not seen this on the lists this year but the City of Nurnberg has this available each year. It show the city zentrum and several points of interest. THese are live pictures from Nurnberg so when you click on any of the pictures it may take a few seconds to open. You can even control the camera to zoom in on a spot in the picture. It is much better to view these when it is night time in Germany. So enjoy this site. It's one of the better ones. http://www.christkindlesmarkt.de/index_e.html Ein Frohe Weihnachten! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! Bob Liebl

New to list, Have been told my family possibly had its roots in Bavaria due to the manner in which they pronounced their name. When first arriving in this country they pronounced their name as though spelled it Linebhurger. Have no idea where they came from in Germany and would like to have some input with someone better informed than I. Thank you, JoAnne Lineberger Barrett

To whom it may concern: I'm searching for some of my German families and it has lead me to Sulzheim, Nuedlingen & Wulfershausen. The Morman's don't seem to have church records for those towns. How do I get access to records for those towns? thanks, Debbie

Hi! I'm very new to this list and to research in Germany and hope the following question isn't annlying to more experienced German researchers. I'm researching the surname Merkel. I have a George Merkel born in Wirbenz, Germany in December of 1828. This information is not verified. I've found a George Andreas Merckel bpatized in Evangelische, Alsenz, Pfalz, Bayern in September of 1828 but I don't know enough about German town names to understand what I've found. Can someone explain to me what Alsenz, Pfalz, Bayern means and whether the name Merkel is a common one in Bavaria? Kathy

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Hello List, I am looking for ancestors and descendents of Adam Kegler, born 1802 in Kirchenlamitz, Germany. he married Margaret Simmerer in 1803 and came to the US (Pittsburgh) with his whole family around the 1840's. Thank you for any help you can give. Bonnie

I am trying to locate the town(s) in Bavaria from which my ancestors emigrated to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Joseph SALBECK arrived in the US in 1860. He was born 24 August 1830. His father's name was Wolfgang and his mother's name was Anna. His military records from the Civil War located in the National Archives make no mention of his birthplace. No naturalization papers have been found. He was married to Maria SCHOENBERGER in Milwaukee on 16 July 1867. She was born 11 January 1838, but her year of emigration is not known. Her father's name was Michael and her mother's name was Threasia.. Any help or leads would be appreciated. Barbara dthut@execpc.com

I am wondering where current day Momlingen and Steinmark Unterfranken Bavaria are located? Is there a resource on the web with old Germany maps? I am confused about these locations and where out there I might begin to do research ie: find archives. Thanks! Katie O'Connor peanuts4me@jps.net

Hello! Looking for information regarding the LAUMEISTER surname. I have bits and pieces from 4 separate LAUMEISTER families, but cannot find where they connect. The first set includes Lorenz b. 1616-1672 and his family that lived in Steinmark Unterfraken Bavaria until about 1750. The second set is Josef Laumeister born before 1780 and his family including Johann and Stefan. They were from Momlingen Bavaria. There were a whole bunch of Laumeisters that settled in York County PA in the late 1700s and they too came from Bavaria but I do not know which parts. Another family, related to most living Laumeisters in the US, were brothers Francis William and William Frank born in the 1820s. My own family begins with John Anthony Laumeister who married Mary Ann Hartman in Bavaria and had sons Leonard b. 1824 and Lewis b. 1822. My family moved to Stockton CA in the late 1840s early 1850 and lived there until about 1950. My great grandfather Herman Aloysuis was born in Stockton in 1859. ANY information regarding this surname would be GREATLY appreciated as I know I am so close to a link but just dont see how they all connect! Many thanks, Katie O'Connor peanuts4me@jps.net

Marylin, I don't know if you have a connection, but there are some Hartung families in Chicago, Cook Co. Illinois USA. I can't make the connection to them myself, but they are buried with my Wangelin family. Let me know if you are interested in them, and I will send. Hugs Wendy ---------- > From: AWGNMEG@aol.com > is Meinrad HARTUNG b 7 Jun 1801 to Josef and Regina(STRAUS) HARTUNG He was a

Hi, I'm looking for more information on Regina Margaretha Zerfass m. Adam ENDERS 10 Feb 1778 in Evangelisch, Gemuenden Hunsruck, Rheinland, Preussen, had Elisabetha Margaretha Enders b. 19 March 1797 and m. Joh. Georg Bretz, had FRANZ BRETZ b. 16 Aug 1834, who m. Elisabetha Avenius (b. I believe 19 Jun 1831 Hochspeyer, Pfalz, Bayern to Theobald AVENIUS and Gertruada ENGELSKIRCHER), m. 13 Oct. 1864 in Evangelische, Albisheim, Pfalz, Bayern. As you can see I am working up the line. If you have any further information or our information corresponds, please email me. Thanks. Dara Avenius

Thank you so much. We all need to remember that among the listreaders are many people on fixed incomes, or with disabilities that don't make it easy to run out to the store and buy another reference book. And those who can buy what they want still have to be careful because after it is bought, it has to be kept someplace! (The last is a moan from a year-old genealogist sitting at her computer desk surrounded by references and notebooks that don't yet have a place to go.) Ceal ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@wasatch.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 0042 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] LO's Message: Rude to subscribers > GV is off the list. The lady is back on. > > That kind of attitude GV put out toward other subscribers is NOT > acceptable. > > There are many subscribers who do NOT have access to various > resources, much less afford such resources. > > GV could have simply referred the lady to a site (www.expediamaps.com) > instead of harranguing her. > > Internet is forever improving in resources. > > W. David Samuelsen, listowner > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

I am looking for more information on FRANZ BRETZ, who m. Elisabetha AVENIUS 13 Oct. 1864 in Evangelische, Albisheim, Pfalz, Bayern. I believe he was b. 16 Aug 1834 in Evangelische, Albisheim, Pfalz, Bayern to Joh. Georg BRETZ and Elisabetha Margaretha ENDERS. I need more information about him, his wife and his children. Thank you. Dara Avenius BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com

Susan, write to Peter Levin at: P.Levin@t-online.de He is a genealogist researching the Levin family from Schrobenhausen. I already forwarded your message to him. Greetings, Ralph Rhab@compuserve.com

I have several Priests in my family and would like to find out more about them. Has anyone ever heard of some kind of register for priests? The first is Meinrad HARTUNG b 7 Jun 1801 to Josef and Regina(STRAUS) HARTUNG He was a priest in Illerbeuren and Legau. Another was Isidor HARTUNG b 8 Feb 1850 in Blonhofen to Josef and Franziska (DEGENHART) HARTUNG He became a priest 7 August 1875 I think he was a priest in Bachern. The next is Johann Michael BIHLER b 20 Aug 1718 to Markus and Maria (MAYER) BIHLER I would love to find out more about them and the churches where they served. Marilyn