Hi, I am trying to find the ancestors of my Great Grandmother. (Anna) Barbara HAHN, born 19 Apr 1859 in Vestenbergsgreuth, Bavaria, Germany. Her parents were Mathias and Margaretta (Muller) HAHN. She came to America in 1875 with her Mother, her Father must have died since I can't find any trace of him. They were of Lutheran Faith. Any help would be appreciated. I understand that Vestenbergsgreuth is a village in central Franconia, NW of Nuremberg. Does anyone know where I can write for information on this family? Bev, bfrancque@delphi.com

My great grandfather, Andrew SCHUG, had a sister, M. Maria SCHUG, who was a nun. She wrote letters to the family in America from "English Institute, Nurnberg, Tafelhof Street #3". One of the letters that I have is dated 1911. Does anyone know anything about the English Institute? Thanks Mike SCHUG

Joanne and Larry, Also, remember that the online index does not include all individuals. I found the christening records of some of my German ancestors in the online index and later found out in the microfilm there were birth records too. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Flinner, Jr. <llflinner@webtv.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] RE: IGI Joanne, At the suggestion of a fellow lister, I revisited the IGI site at: http://www.familysearch.org/ I was surprised to see that the German IGI is now accessable online (so soon?). The "Batch Numbers" and the "Source Call #'s" (or Film #'s) are listed for the individual. This is a great timesaver, however the films still have to be ordered through the nearest FHC. I stand corrected. Happy Hunting, Larry ----Original Message---- <<Has anyone searched the IGI for their Bavarian ancestors and been successful? I am wondering how I can get batch #'s for my interests (HAGEN, UTTENDORFER, SPANGEL) in the Mitterhausen/Gerlstetten area of Bavaria.>> ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

I am looking for anyone with the surname Ertel in their ancestry. Mine was from a town in Bavaria - Rosenberg I believe. Margaretta? Ertel who married in Minnesota a John Lenard Zimmerman/n Thanks for any help -- Jill Also a suggestion about FHC records. The only way you will find family records in the IGI is if they have been entered by someone who was researching those family members. The records in which you might find the families you are researching would be in birth, marriage and death, church records, directories, census records etc that have been filmed in their entirety(sp?) for the Mormon records in Salt Lake. These can be ordered to be seen at the FHC near you!

Joanne, At the suggestion of a fellow lister, I revisited the IGI site at: http://www.familysearch.org/ I was surprised to see that the German IGI is now accessable online (so soon?). The "Batch Numbers" and the "Source Call #'s" (or Film #'s) are listed for the individual. This is a great timesaver, however the films still have to be ordered through the nearest FHC. I stand corrected. Happy Hunting, Larry ----Original Message---- <<Has anyone searched the IGI for their Bavarian ancestors and been successful? I am wondering how I can get batch #'s for my interests (HAGEN, UTTENDORFER, SPANGEL) in the Mitterhausen/Gerlstetten area of Bavaria.>>

Looking for any info on family of Louise (Elisabetha) Bauer, Gundlitch, Marienweiler,b. 12 Jan 1882, daughter of Margaretha Bauer. I have no further information on this family and ancesters. She travelled to United States about 12 yrs of age with a cousin or aunt(?)

Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about Berchestgaden. BEST WISHES FOR THE NEW YEAR Richard

Hello Joanne, I am unsure about online sources, you may have to do the "leg work" at the FHC, but consider this: When you look up the source for the IGI listings at the FHC, there is usually a "Film or Batch #". If this is a Film #, you just order the corresponding microfilm (yippee!). But my experience has been that the numbers I were looking for turned out to be "Batch #'s" to which there is no reference to in the Locality or other searches. After much struggle (to make a long story short), it turns out that these "Batch #'s" must be converted into "Film #'s", then the appropriate films can be ordered. To do this, at the FHC, look up the "Batch #" on the "Microfiche of Batch Numbers". This will give you the film # to order. NOTE: The assistants at the FHC may not be aware of this proceedure, so be understanding & patient, but persistant. The Microfiche of Batch #'s is a set of microfiche, and might be misplaced somewhere in the drawers. Best Wishes, Larry Flinner Ohio, USA ----Original Message---- Hi everyone, Has anyone searched the IGI for their Bavarian ancestors and been successful? I am wondering how I can get batch #'s for my interests (HAGEN, UTTENDORFER, SPANGEL) in the Mitterhausen/Gerlstetten area of Bavaria. There is a great English site for batch #'s for England (I have English interests as well), but I haven't been able to find anything similar for Bavaria or Germany in general. I would appreciate it if SKS could help me out with this. Thanks, Joanne Parmley

Descendants of Josef LAUMEISTER Generation No. 1 1. JOSEF1 LAUMEISTER Child of JOSEF LAUMEISTER is: 2. i. JOHANN NIKOLAUS2 LAUMEISTER, b. 12 June 1784, Monchberg, Bavaria. Generation No. 2 2. JOHANN NIKOLAUS2 LAUMEISTER (JOSEF1) was born 12 June 1784 in Monchberg, Bavaria. He married ELISABETH GIEGERICH 10 July 1817. She was born 15 July 1788 in Momlingen, Bavaria. Child of JOHANN LAUMEISTER and ELISABETH GIEGERICH is: 3. i. STEFAN3 LAUMEISTER, b. 06 April 1820, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 20 September 1869, Momlingen, Bavaria. Generation No. 3 3. STEFAN3 LAUMEISTER (JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 06 April 1820 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 20 September 1869 in Momlingen, Bavaria. He married ANNA MARIA REISSMANN 26 April 1846 in Momlingen, Bavaria, daughter of KASPAR REISSMANN and EVA LIEB. She was born 12 October 1823 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 16 February 1890 in Momlingen, Bavaria. Children of STEFAN LAUMEISTER and ANNA REISSMANN are: 4. i. MARIA4 LAUMEISTER, b. 01 February 1847, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 19 July 1924, Grossostheim, Germany. ii. FRANZ ROCHUS LAUMEISTER, b. 16 August 1848, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 12 March 1915, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. iii. ADAM LAUMEISTER, b. 13 July 1850, Momlingen, Bavaria. 5. iv. EVA LAUMEISTER, b. 05 April 1853, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 31 May 1928. 6. v. FRANZ JOSEF LAUMEISTER, b. 03 September 1855, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 02 July 1900. vi. MARIA ANNA TERESIA LAUMEISTER, b. 21 November 1857, Momlingen, Bavaria; m. ALBRECHT BECKER. 7. vii. JOHANN JOSEPH LAUMEISTER, b. 17 July 1860, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 23 December 1932, St. Joseph's Hospital, San Francisco, CA. viii. ADAM ANTON LAUMEISTER, b. 24 May 1863, Momlingen, Bavaria; d. 31 December 1881. 8. ix. JOSEPHA LAUMEISTER, b. 28 April 1866, Momlingen, Bavaria. Generation No. 4 4. MARIA4 LAUMEISTER (STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 01 February 1847 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 19 July 1924 in Grossostheim, Germany. She married GABRIEL CHRISTIAN HOCK 07 January 1873 in Grossostheim, Germany. He was born 24 August 1843 in Grossostheim, Germany, and died 26 January 1905 in Grossostheim, Germany. Children of MARIA LAUMEISTER and GABRIEL HOCK are: i. ELISABETH5 HOCK, b. 07 June. ii. ADAM ALOIS HOCK, b. 16 October. iii. JOSEPH HOCK, b. 23 September 1873. iv. ANNA MARIE HOCK, b. 13 December 1877. v. JOHANN GABRIEL HOCK, b. 29 December 1879. vi. GABRIEL ALEXANDER HOCK, b. 18 March 1882. 5. EVA4 LAUMEISTER (STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 05 April 1853 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 31 May 1928. She married ALEXANDER SCHADT 08 August 1876. He was born 20 February 1849, and died 20 November 1931. Children of EVA LAUMEISTER and ALEXANDER SCHADT are: i. ANNA5 SCHADT, b. 15 June 1877; m. ALEX SPECHT. ii. KATHERINE JOSEPHA SCHADT, b. 18 June 1879; m. JOSEF. iii. JAKOB SCHADT, b. 22 June 1881; m. MARGARITE. iv. MARIA SCHADT, b. 07 December 1884; m. SEBASTIAN WOLF. v. BARBARA SCHADT, b. 21 November 1886. 6. FRANZ JOSEF4 LAUMEISTER (STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 03 September 1855 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 02 July 1900. He married BARBARA JOHANNA SCHUCK 23 November 1879. She was born 02 October 1850 in Kleinwallftadt, Germany, and died 17 June 1936 in Momlingen, Bavaria. Children of FRANZ LAUMEISTER and BARBARA SCHUCK are: i. GERMANUS5 LAUMEISTER, b. 29 July 1881; m. KLARA RISSEL, 06 March 1902. 9. ii. AUGUSTUS LAUMEISTER, b. 27 July 1882. 10. iii. JOHANN LAUMEISTER, b. 10 February 1884. iv. GEORGE JOSEF LAUMEISTER, b. 21 January 1886. v. ALEXANDER JOSEF LAUMEISTER, b. 08 August 1887. 7. JOHANN JOSEPH4 LAUMEISTER (STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 17 July 1860 in Momlingen, Bavaria, and died 23 December 1932 in St. Joseph's Hospital, San Francisco, CA. He married ELISABETHA M. WILLRICH 10 November 1885 in Chicago, Cook, IL, daughter of KARL WILLRICH and KAROLINA MOHR. She was born 27 November 1857 in Nussbach, Kanton Lautereitent, Baveria, and died 10 February 1924 in 517 Andover St., San Francisco, CA. Children of JOHANN LAUMEISTER and ELISABETHA WILLRICH are: 11. i. ANNA MARIA CAROLINE BERTHA5 LAUMEISTER, b. 19 June 1892, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 15 January 1965, Concord, Contra Costa, CA. ii. CHARLES FRANCIS LAUMEISTER, b. 19 September 1894, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 13 June 1958, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA. Became a Franciscan Priest known as Father Bernadine iii. PALETTA LAUMEISTER, b. 23 July 1900, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 23 July 1900, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. 8. JOSEPHA4 LAUMEISTER (STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 28 April 1866 in Momlingen, Bavaria. Child of JOSEPHA LAUMEISTER is: i. MARIA THERISA5 LAUMEISTER, b. 03 April 1885. Generation No. 5 9. AUGUSTUS5 LAUMEISTER (FRANZ JOSEF4, STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 27 July 1882. He married ELISABETH GIERGERICH 08 March 1907. She was born 21 June 1884. Children of AUGUSTUS LAUMEISTER and ELISABETH GIERGERICH are: i. MARIA6 LAUMEISTER, b. 29 May 1908. 12. ii. KLARA ELIZABETH LAUMEISTER, b. 22 December 1909. iii. ELISABETH BARBARA LAUMEISTER, b. 28 March 1913; m. HERMANN FLECKENSTEIN, 07 June 1935. iv. iv. AUGUSTA MARIA LAUMEISTER, b. 28 June 1921. 10. JOHANN5 LAUMEISTER (FRANZ JOSEF4, STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 10 February 1884. He married MARGARETE HOHM 25 November 1913. She was born 21 February 1890. Children of JOHANN LAUMEISTER and MARGARETE HOHM are: i. MARIA JOHANNA KAROLINA6 LAUMEISTER, b. 25 June 1915; m. EGIDIUS STAAB, 21 December 1939. 13. ii. THEODOLINDE DOROTHEA LAUMEISTER, b. 22 May 1918; d. 07 June 1978. 11. ANNA MARIA CAROLINE BERTHA5 LAUMEISTER (JOHANN JOSEPH4, STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 19 June 1892 in San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, and died 15 January 1965 in Concord, Contra Costa, CA. She married (1) HERBERT LEROY WAGAR 13 November 1911 in San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. He was born 1888 in MI. She married (2) MANUAL AMBROSIO RAMOS 01 July 1918 in San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, son of SALMON RAMOS and GENARA MEDINA. He was born 07 December 1882 in Lares, PR, and died 31 October 1923 in San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. She married (3) FRANCIS BERTRAM MCGONIGLE 17 September 1941 in Reno, Washoe, NV. He was born 04 February 1887 in San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, and died 25 September 1964 in Martinez, Contra Costa, CA. Child of ANNA LAUMEISTER and HERBERT WAGAR is: 14. i. AUGUST JOSEPH6 WAGAR, b. 27 July 1912, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 20 December 1960, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. Children of ANNA LAUMEISTER and MANUAL RAMOS are: ii. MANUEL FRANCIS (FRANK)6 RAMOS, b. 09 March 1919, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 31 July 1989, Lakeport, Lake, CA; m. CORINNE E. LANDIS, 01 February 1938, Phoenix, AZ. iii. CHARLES ANTHONY (CHARLIE) RAMOS, b. 07 September 1920, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 26 September 1979, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; m. (1) LUDMILA ARTOMONOVA; m. (2) LORETTA MARGARET STAFFORD, 15 July 1939, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA. 15. iv. ANNA MARIE (ANN) RAMOS, b. 03 June 1923, 21 Winfield St., San Francisco, San Francisco, CA; d. 31 August 1989, Martinez, Contra Costa, CA. Generation No. 6 12. KLARA ELIZABETH6 LAUMEISTER (AUGUSTUS5, FRANZ JOSEF4, STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 22 December 1909. She married AMANDUS HORNUNG 05 February 1931. He was born 28 August 1906. Children of KLARA LAUMEISTER and AMANDUS HORNUNG are: i. AUGUSTA KLARA7 HORNUNG, b. 22 February 1932; m. OTTO KUNKEL; b. Eisenbach, Bavaria. ii. ALFONS WILHELM HORNUNG, b. 20 March 1934; m. ERIKA ROTHENBUCHER. iii. JOHANN AUGUST HORNUNG, b. 20 June 1935. 13. THEODOLINDE DOROTHEA6 LAUMEISTER (JOHANN5, FRANZ JOSEF4, STEFAN3, JOHANN NIKOLAUS2, JOSEF1) was born 22 May 1918, and died 07 June 1978. She married KARL GOGG 03 April 1942. Child of THEODOLINDE LAUMEISTER and KARL GOGG is: 16. i. DOROTHIA JOHANNA7 GOGG, b. 26 August 1943.

Can someone tell me the distance between Momlingen, Monchberg, Steinmark and Himmelthal?? I am trying to figure out if my LAUMEISTERs' are all related they lived in the above locations... I know for sure the Momlingen and Monchberg ones are related. Does anyone out there have LAUMEISTER family or family in Momlingen or Monchberg?? BarB barbbuck@pacbell.net

Looking for connections to the surname ZSCHAU from Saxony Germany. Has anyone ever heard of these places in Saxony: Willnan (Wellnan) County of Mersburg (Mevseburg)(Mensburg)? 1 Gottleib Zschau . +Rosina ...... 2 Gotlieb J. Zschau b: 1843 in Willnan (Wellnan) County of Mersburg (Mevseburg)(Mensburg) in Saxony, Germany d: 20 June 1906 in Turners Falls, Franklin Co, Massachusetts .......... +Suzanna Griesbach b: 1849 in Prussia, Germany m: 14 August 1869 d: 29 April 1916 in Montague, Franklin Co, Masssachusetts .............. 3 [1] Amelia Zschau b: 1876 in Turners Falls, Massachusetts d: 10 March 1918 in Montana .................. +Henry Neimes b: 1871 d: 1912 .............. *2nd Husband of [1] Amelia Zschau: .................. +Levi Doty .............. 3 John Zschau b: 1878 in Turners Falls, Massachusetts (no record of birth?) d: 02 December 1881 .............. 3 William Benedict Zschau b: 15 October 1879 in Montague, Franklin Co, Massachussets d: 24 November 1945 in Greenfield, Massachussets .................. +Anna Jarvis b: 1878 d: 29 March 1950 in Greenfield, Franklin Co, Massachussets .............. 3 Anna Eva Zschau b: 01 April 1881 in Montague, Franklin Co, Massachussets d: 29 April 1963 in Northampton, MA .................. +Joseph Lucien Fugere b: 24 November 1882 m: 30 November 1905 d: 23 January 1964 .............. 3 Lucinda Kate Zschau b: 15 April 1883 in Montague, Franklin Co, Massachussets d: 09 March 1891 .............. 3 John Zschau b: 1885 in Montague, Franklin Co, Massachussets d: 12 May 1943 .................. +Sara C. Mayhew b: 1887 d: January 1965 .............. 3 Henry Leo Zschau b: 12 March 1886 in Montague, Franklin Co. Massachussets d: November 1918 .................. +Yvonne Eileen Berard b: 03 July 1890 in Greenfield, Franklin Co. MA m: Abt. May 1906 d: 04 June 1960 .............. 3 Charles Zschau b: 15 January 1889 d: 17 January 1889 .............. 3 Kate Zschau b: 15 January 1889 .............. 3 Mary Ann (Maime) Zschau b: 06 May 1892 d: 17 August 1982 .................. +Harry Blodgett Cutting b: 20 January 1886 in Holliston Massachusetts m: 19 June 1913 d: Abt. 08 September 1966 Please contact me if you know of these places in Saxony, Germany or of the surname ZSCHAU. THANKS, Nancy Nancy M. Atkinson rascalz@worldnet.att.net

Thank you, everybody, that assisted me with this question. I am looking forward to receive it in the mail. Christine Lippert Fung Paramedic, CC VFD http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/u/n/Christine--Fung/ http://www.vvm.com/~cfung/

Does anybody know if there is a list for Oberpfalz? Thank you, Christine Lippert Fung Paramedic, CC VFD http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/u/n/Christine--Fung/ http://www.vvm.com/~cfung/

I am not sure if this will help you, but Regensburg had a school for priests in the 1930's. If you send an e-mail to the following address, they might be able to help you: bistum.regensburg.public@t-online.de Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <AWGNMEG@aol.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 12:42 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] German Priests > I have several Priests in my family and would like to find out more about > them. Has anyone ever heard of some kind of register for priests? The first > is Meinrad HARTUNG b 7 Jun 1801 to Josef and Regina(STRAUS) HARTUNG He was a > priest in Illerbeuren and Legau. > Another was Isidor HARTUNG b 8 Feb 1850 in Blonhofen to Josef and > Franziska (DEGENHART) HARTUNG He became a priest 7 August 1875 I think he > was a priest in Bachern. > The next is Johann Michael BIHLER b 20 Aug 1718 to Markus and Maria > (MAYER) BIHLER > I would love to find out more about them and the churches where they > served. > Marilyn > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. > mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Hello everyone, I'm hoping someone might give me some tips/suggestions. After you find the Bavarian town and the church is gone (burnt to the ground), where do you look for records? My time period is the 1890s. By any chance, were the Catholic churches of that time required to send copies of their records/family books to any other church locations? Would there also be civil records at another location? Thanks for any help provided, Joanne

MOGONTIA is the latinized name of the city of MAINZ. Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Bill Allen <allenw@buffnet.net> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Montag, 27. Dezember 1999 05:01 Betreff: [BAVARIA] Town >I am looking for a town called Mogentia, Germany. Has anyone every heard of the town and where may be located? > >Bill Allen > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Sister or Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

I am looking for a town called Mogentia, Germany. Has anyone every heard of the town and where may be located? Bill Allen

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Does anyone know what kreis or province claimed Bonn in 1796 and Koblenz in 1854? I'm trying to find the correct area to write for records. Merry Christmas everyone!

Merry Christmas All, I am looking for the birthplace of Christopher Rager who according to Obituaries and most census records was born in Bavaria. One census record however lists him as coming from Baden. He was born in Apr. 1824 and emigrated to the US in 1850 where he worked at his butcher trade in Chicago until 1858 when he moved to what is now Oceana County, MI. His death record shows his mother to be Anna Brinie and his father Conrad. His sisters Obituary however shows the fathers name as John. At the time of his death in 1897 he was survived by a brother John in Sweden, a sister in Germany and a sister Magdalenna in Oceana Co., MI. The German white pages show at least 44 Ragers in the area around Bisingen, which is east of Munich, with very few in any other area in Germany. Does anyone have a contact in that area?? His family in Michigan was Catholic, but I don't know if he was raised Catholic. So far I have not found any LDS records from Bisingen. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Art Grumm, Montague, MI