Hi, Arline: Here's what I did to get the application copy (before I had a computer!) I wrote to the U.S. Department of State, 2201 "C" Street, Washington, D .C . 20520 gave them all the pertinent info re when he arrived from Germany, when he applied for citizenship, etc. The DOS replied 26 days later and told me to write to: The Diplomatic Branch The National Archives and Records Administration Washington, D .C. 20408 27 days later, I received a copy of the document with his biog. info and birthplace. Now, there may be a quicker way to do this on the net, but I don't know how to request it from the Archives. Perhaps some kind-hearted person who does can help. Good Luck! Bernard

Geo. DORFNER born in Mitterfels, in early 1800's, his biography says Haugen-Laugericht. Are those place names? Seems to have been on parental farm, then became a traveling baker. Here in U.S. in time fo Civil war service in Illinois. DORFNER surname in Dingolfing back into 1200;s. Bev. (Wash state, USA)

Wilhelm: Thank you most kindly for your response about Oldenstein. However, the information on Karl's birthplace was taken from his application for a passport from the US Government so he could visit his homeland. I am not arguing with you about this, but I'm wondering if the map you mentioned might not have taken into account name-changes between 1880 and the present. The other possibility would be if the official who wrote "Oldstein" on the application did not hear the name correctly. Is there an "Altenstein" on the map you mention? Thank you once again for your help. Regards, Bernard

Do you have any information regarding the Coat of Arms over the gates of Saltzburg? In my research I have found that Hester Salusbury Thrale Piozzi may have shown a copy of the Salusbury Coat of Arms (from Wales) and pedigree to an official in Salzburg (in the late 1700- early 1800's), and this official verified that the Coat of Arms was the same and that the pedigree she showed the official was authentic. Where do I need to search for additional information the verify this fact? I have not found a reference book written by Mrs. Piozzi which contains this information, but it is believed that she wrote in her book, _Autobirgaphical Memoirs_, "The Salusbury pedigree is perpetually referred to by Pennant in his numerous volumes. I showed an abstract of it to the heralds in the office at Saltzburg and they acknowledged me a true descendant of their house." Do yo or anyone on the list have any information which might be helpful? Thanks, Dixiebelle, South Georgia, USA

The German phone directory shows 4 Rosenberg in Bavaria. And there are 6 or more Gschwendt listed in Bavaria, not mentioning the smaller ones, which are now part of a larger community. Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: WGAFFNEY@aol.com <WGAFFNEY@aol.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2000 06:05 Betreff: [BAVARIA] Rosenberg - Bavaria? >I have what may seem like a foolish ? but the foolish don't ask ?'s!! When I >searched for my gr-grandmother Margaretha Ertel 's church records on the LDS >site, I put in Rosenberg, Bavaria, Germany. Each time I got a listing with >Rosenberg always listed as Wuerttemberg, Germany. Is it possible that they >are one and the same? or was Rosenberg small and the church located in an >adjacent city?. I also asked the list about John Lenard Zimmermann of >Gschwendt, Bavaria but when I tried for that also on the LDS site - same >result. Any suggestions?? Thanks, JILL > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Have I subscribed to BEEKMAN_list? I don't quite know if I did or not. I just want any info sought on BEEKMAN family. Thank You Bonnie Teusch bteusch@fwi.com

Looking for information on my gr grandfather STUCKMAIER / STUCKMAYER , Georg who was born in 1851 and emigrated in 1871 to the usa aboard the German Barque Columbus that sailed from Bremen and docked in N.Y.usa. Anyone familiar with this family name? The STUCKMAIER name originated in ROTHENBERG, BAVARIA,GERMANY so that is why I chose this area to search. Thanks for any help in advance. Cathie owtlaw1@webtv.net

Dear Nancy, I am not sure that I can help but here it is.....In my SEWARD line I have a Thomas SEWARD who married a Hannah MARTIN or TUCKER on March 21, 1754. (records appear to contradict surname). Hannah died March 23, 1787 in Stoddard,(now Sullivan) N.H. I do not have her parentage and am still researching as this is a brick wall for me at this point. Perhaps she is one of yours. Hope to be of help, -- Bob Simon, Massachusetts, U.S.A. Researching Surnames: S E W A R D, J E N K I N S, M A R T I N, C O L T E R, D O D G E, T U C K E R, S I M O N, H U N G E R, P O E H L M A N -----Original Message----- From: GNkapper@cs.com <GNkapper@cs.com> To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Re: Peter MARTIN of Miesenbach >Greetings from Indiana, Would anyone on list be researching or connected to >the MARTIN family who had a son Peter, born 5 October 1810, "in Miesenbach, >seat of Canton, Bavaria. He came to America and settled in Pittsburgh, PA, >working at his trade of a baker. He married Maria Christina GROSSMAN there on >16 April 1836. Later the family emigrated to Posey County, Indiana. I would >be most grateful to learn of his parents or siblings. Please contact Nancy >at GNkapper@cs.com Thank you! > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

I have what may seem like a foolish ? but the foolish don't ask ?'s!! When I searched for my gr-grandmother Margaretha Ertel 's church records on the LDS site, I put in Rosenberg, Bavaria, Germany. Each time I got a listing with Rosenberg always listed as Wuerttemberg, Germany. Is it possible that they are one and the same? or was Rosenberg small and the church located in an adjacent city?. I also asked the list about John Lenard Zimmermann of Gschwendt, Bavaria but when I tried for that also on the LDS site - same result. Any suggestions?? Thanks, JILL

Hello: I would like some information on the following person, if at all possible. Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated! Karl Treiber - b. 30 August, 1865 in Oldenstein, Bavaria, sailed from Hamburg on the SS Herder on 28 April, 1881, alone, at 16 years of age, to New York City. Can you tell me where Oldenstein is in Bavaria, and to whom I might write for further information on his family roots, siblings, mother, father, etc. Thank You! Bernard Young

The ship "Main" 1882 Passenger List from Bremen to New York lists GGrandmother Justina KLAFFKI and son, Gottfreid KLAFFKI as coming from Bavaria--no town. All other documentation I have,just lists their former place of residence as Germany. Gottfreid KLAFFKI lists his father (on marriage certificate) as Gottfreid also. Since Justina (her maiden name was LANG) and son came alone, I am wondering how or where to look for information about the death of the father Gottfreid KLAFFKI who I assume died in Bavaria. Are there any vital records available or is this too broad an area to look?

Hello Robert, Would your Martin family interest include a Peter Martin born 5 October 1810? Nancy

-- Bob Simon, Massachusetts, U.S.A. Researching Surnames: S E W A R D, J E N K I N S, M A R T I N, C O L T E R, D O D G E, T U C K E R, S I M O N, H U N G E R, P O E H L M A N -----Original Message----- From: Robert Simon <DocterZeusss@email.msn.com> To: Jerry/Mary Lou Bartee <t-bar@worldet.att.net> Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] SIMON Emigration >Mary Lou,.....(sorry for any confusion, this came back to me from the email address I sent it to so I re-sent it) >Thanks for the info and suggestion.....I did check it out and other >passenger lists as well but unless I missed something I could only find a >*Ferd.* (Ferdinand?) SIMON that was on the S.S.Lahn arriving on 12/22/1888. >He was 30 years old and I failed to post the age of the Frederic(k) SIMON >that I was looking for as only 12 in 1886.....yet, like you stated *all in >the family may not have came over at the same time* and the entry I found >has interest.......as I do not Know the names, etc.of the brother(s) or >sister(s), if any, of my Frederic(k) SIMON's father *Phillip SIMON*....Thank >you again, I still have hopes. >-- >Bob Simon, >Massachusetts, U.S.A. >Researching Surnames: S E W A R D, J E N K I N S, M A R T I N, C O L T >E R, D O D G E, T U C K E R, S I M O N, H U N G E R, P O E H L M >A N >-----Original Message----- >From: Jerry/Mary Lou Bartee <t-bar@worldet.att.net> >To: Robert Simon <DocterZeusss@email.msn.com>; BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com ><BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 1:26 AM >Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] SIMON Emigration > > >>Try looking in the Immigrant Ships Transcribing Guild at ISTG.Rootsweb.com >>There is nearly two thousand ships that have had their manifest transcribed >>by this organization. There is a Fredrick Simon on the SS Lahn. He is 30 >>and listed as a farmer. The ship arrived 12-22-1888. Check it out and it >>is possible the whole family did not come at the same time. The >>transcribers name will be at the end of the transcription. Feel free to >>asked questions. >> >>A volunteer transcriber, >>Mary Lou >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert Simon" <DocterZeusss@email.msn.com> >>To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 11:14 PM >>Subject: [BAVARIA] SIMON Emigration >> >> >>> Listers, >>> I am searching for *any* information on the surname SIMON. >>> I particularly am interested in the following: >>> Phillip, Frederic(k), Dora, Martha, and Max SIMON ....all immigrating >>to >>> U.S.A. from Bavaria between 1880-1890. Family tradition indicates they >>> probably originated from Hof or that general area. Any information will >be >>> greatly appreciated. >>> Thank you, >>> -- >>> Bob Simon, >>> Massachusetts, U.S.A. >>> Researching Surnames: S E W A R D, J E N K I N S, M A R T I N, C O >L >>T >>> E R, D O D G E, T U C K E R, S I M O N >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >>> Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >>> Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >>> mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >>> >>> >> > >

Greetings from Indiana, Would anyone on list be researching or connected to the MARTIN family who had a son Peter, born 5 October 1810, "in Miesenbach, seat of Canton, Bavaria. He came to America and settled in Pittsburgh, PA, working at his trade of a baker. He married Maria Christina GROSSMAN there on 16 April 1836. Later the family emigrated to Posey County, Indiana. I would be most grateful to learn of his parents or siblings. Please contact Nancy at GNkapper@cs.com Thank you!

Hi Lita: According to the German English Genealogical Dictionary Hoefer is a person from a place with suffix. So in your case it would be a person from Wohl. Larry Mastromatteo Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

Thanks so much for all the information. I was told a "better" spelling which I'm ashamed I didn't think of myself with it's simplicity. I've very happy to be associated with such helpful people! Thanks! Lita If God seems far away... Guess who moved? See some of my accomplishments! http://pages.ivillage.com/misc/pux4/index.html

Dear Larry & Bavaria Rootsweb Group, Thanks for your information, Larry. Could the names Wohlforth, Wohlfort, Wohlford, Wolford be the same name as Wohlhoefer? If not, what is the meaning of Wohlforth, which is the name of my family from Bavaria? Thank you, Joanne

Hello, has anyone informations about the name LINDTHALLER (or Linthaler or Lindaler). My familiytree is at KIRCHENPINGARTEN, Bavaria, Germany till 1800, and I cannot find any informations about this family before 1800 and where do they come from. Thank you very much. Tanja __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Auktionen - gleich ausprobieren - http://auktionen.yahoo.de

To all Bavaria-L subscribers, I am so sorry for sending my request in such a straight-forwarded manner. I would appreciate any help. Please forgive my brashness. Thanks, Gerald Kisabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com