Hello Phyllis, I am not from the Waldmuenchen area, but my wife has ancestors there. You can find more about them on my website: http://www.m.shuttle.de/rusch/BLF/R-1670.html As for the church books of that area, they are all kept in the archives of the Diocese of Regensburg. The church books of the Waldmuenchen parish go back to 1582. Regards Georg Paulus, Bavaria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Phyllis Dearborn <pdear@bankpds.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Samstag, 8. Januar 2000 16:07 Betreff: [BAVARIA] Waldmunchen-emigration > >Since I am new to your list, let me introduce myself. My name is Phyllis >Dearborn. I live in Wi, USA. My immigrant ancestors come mostly from the >Waldmunchen and Treffelstein area.Here are the names I am interested in: >NACHREINER BRUCKL Waldmunchen >LAUBMEIER Steinlohe(also in Grafenriedand > Untergrafenried now in CZ) >RING PAULUS PLETZER Treffelstein >RUHLAND Glessling >DISCHLER(TISCHLER) Frankenschliefe(Ulrichgruen) >LIEGL Hocha >KRAMER Irlach > > >Most of these names can still be found in the village where I grew >up-Plain, WI. Would anyone on this list be from the Waldmunchen area? I am >trying to find out where to write to obtain copies of any permission to >emigrate records or copies of land or property sales that were completed in >order for them to come to America. > >I am also looking for the names of churches with addresses so I can write >for baptismal records. They would be churches in the above towns and also >including Ast/Biberbach. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. >Phyllis Dearborn > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

I have narrowed my serach area down and was hoping somone on the list could offer some advice on my next step. From the information, I have, I would appreciate some tips. Of course if anyone is researching these surnames in this area, please let me know. Adam T. HEPP my GG Grandfather (immigrated to Troy, NY) in 1881 with wife Anna Marie (VOELKER) HEPP and five sons (US names of Conrad, Vincent, Charles, John Henry and John). They were from Wuerzburg(sp?), Bavaria in Germany. Adam was born in 1846, Anna in 1848. I do know Adam had a father (my GGG Grandfather) named Adam HEPP but have no additional information and but know his mother's name was Margueritte KHOL (? on spelling on both names as death certificate is very hard to read). Anna Marie VOELKER's father was Nicholas VOELKER but I have no additional information on him and none on his wife. The parents of both Adam T. HEPP and Anna Marie VOELKER are belived to have remained in GERMANY. Thanks Don Hepp

Am I the only one who thought that the recent rash of posts (discussing a certain attribute of the German character which will remain nameless because we're not supposed to talk about it) was fun?? Besides, the listowners' comments simply prove the point. LOL Father Chuck Schwartz

Hi, Today I found out there's a German phone directory online that's in English. If anyone has the url for that site, please send it to me privately. thanks, Debbie

Hello, I am seeking family connections to the Hohe family of Reistenhausen Unterfranken Bayern. The information on the family is as follows. ************************************************** First Generation ************************************************** 1. Martin HOHE. Born About 1833 in Reistenhausen, Gem. Collenberg, Bavaria, Germany. Died 13 Oct 1891 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®10. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®117. Occupation Stone Cutter. RESIDENCES: 1890 Chicago City Directory 683 W. 15th, Stone Cutter, Charles, Hubert, Jacob, Leo all living with. He married Catharina "Catherine" ARNOLD, About 1862. Born About 1835 in Spierstein (nolocationfound?) Germany. Died 12 Apr 1908 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®10. They had the following children: i. Jacob HOHE; Occupation Stone Cutter. RESIDENCES: 1890 Chicago, City Directory bds with Martin HOHE, 683 W. 15th, Stone cutter ii. Charles HOHE; Born 7 Feb 1863 in Reistenhausen, Bavaria, Germany. Died 4 Feb 1937 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®115 ®10. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL. Occupation Stone Mason. RESIDENCES: 1890 Chicago City Directory, bds with Martin HOHE at 683 W. 15th Stone Cutter (Another Charles HOHE same directory) Laborer, 72 Brigham 1910 Census- Lived Blackhawk Street in Chicago IL Census in the home of Joseph Hohe He married Frieda. 2 iii. Joseph HOHE iv. Leo F. HOHE; Born About 1865. Died Before 8 Jun 1903 in ®174. Buried 8 Jun 1903 in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL. Occupation Stone Cutter. RESIDENCES: 1890, Chicago City Directory-683 W. 15th Bds home of Martin Hohe. stone cutter He married Mary. Born About 1865. Died Before 12 Apr 1908. Buried 12 Apr 1908 in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL. v. Hubert HOHE; Born 14 Dec 1871. Died 30 Aug 1940. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL. He married Philomena. Born 19 Aug 1877. Died 18 Jul 1912 in Cook Co., IL ®10. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago Cook Co., IL. Second Generation ************************************************** 2. Joseph HOHE. Born 16 Apr 1864 in Reistenhausen, Bavaria, Germany. Died 5 Aug 1941 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®95. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®100. Occupation Stone Mason/Iron Worker. RESIDENCES 1891 Chicago City Directory Hohe, Joseph, Calciminer, h. 48 Bunker (Several other Hohe's at 683 W. 15th and all of them stonecutters.) 1900 Chicago, Cook Co., IL Census Lived on Blackhawk St. in Chicago 1910 Chicago, Cook Co., IL Census Lived on Blackhawk Street, in Chicago IL 1920 Chicago, Cook Co., IL Census Lived on 27 Dayton Street Chicago IL re: 1920 Census IMMIGRATION: He immigrated between 1880/1883 1900, 1881 with 19 years in the states. 1910, 1880 1920, 1903, and Nat. 1891 He married Anna "Annie" THALHAMMER, daughter of Vincent THALHAMMER & , 30 Oct 1886 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®116. Born 23 Oct 1864 in Austria, Hungaria. Died 28 Jun 1931 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®95. Buried in St. Boniface Cemetery, Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®100. Occupation Housewife. IMMIGRATION 1900, 1885 15 years in the states. 1910, 1882 1920, 1884, and Nat. 1891 They had the following children: 3 i. Harry J HOHE Third Generation ************************************************** 3. Harry J HOHE. Born 2 Aug 1893 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. Died Apr 1967 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. Buried 28 Apr 1967 in Irving Park Cemetary, Chicago, Cook Co., IL ®99. Occupation Stone Mason/Steel Factory Laborer/Postal Worker. Ref Number 325-36-3899. RESIDENCES 1928 Chicago City Directory Hohe, Harry J. carrier PO, h. 2225 Ward (Living also in home is Edwin A. Wangelin, mtrmn.) 28 Mar 1960 SS Application 3028 N. Long, Chicago IL Zone 14 3 Feb 1961 Edna's Death Certificate 3028 N. Long, Chicago IL, DEATH INFORMATION Irving Park Cemetary 7777 W. Irving Park RD. Chicago IL 60634-2191 Funeral Director Henry W. Mueller 5300-12 W. Belmont Ave Chicago (41) IL Biography: Resided in Chicago all Evelyn Life According to Dad, GrGranpa, was a French Canadian and Grgranma was Indian Possibly Algonquin. Per SS-5, Harry J. Hohe, born 2 Aug 1893 in Chicago Cook Co. IL 66 years old at the time of application, mother Anna Toalmaer, and Joseph Hohe, Mailing address 3028 N. Long, Chicago IL Zone 14. Date of application 28 Mar 1960 During 1923 he was a mail man Harry had 2 news article's written about him, the first when he found a diamond ring, and returned it... "The Honest Mailman", and the other because he guessed who would win the world series and by how many points. 1920 Census Harry listed as still living in the home of Joseph Hohe, Single. Where is Edna, to whom was supposed to have been married to him in 1914 Harry J. Hohe's memorobilia, is a photo of the Leviathain. A German Cruiser, previously called the Vaterland, and turned over to the US in 1917. It provided troop transport for military personel. By 1919 it had been disbanded and turned over to the US as part of a new company. Although it still carred troops up intill that date. The photo on the ship is dated Copyright 1918. Sources: Death: SSNDI gave DOB, DOD, and SSN resided 60641 No location given 325-36-3899 issue in Illinois He second married Dorothy ZOABL. Married just before Harry died. She has all of Harry's personal effects. He first married Edna Anna WANGELIEN, daughter of Adolph E. "Adolf" WANGELIEN & Anna "Annie" EVERS, 17 Apr 1914 ®58. Born 10 Jan 1897 in Chicago, Cook Co., IL. Died 31 Jan 1961 in Ravenswood Hospital, Chicago Cook Co. IL. Buried 3 Feb 1961 in Irving Park Cemetary Chicago Cook Co. IL ®98. Occupation Schwinn Bicycles. Ref Number 330-22-1683. RESIDENCES DEATH INFORMATION Death Cert Died after 12 hrs hospital stay of a Hepatic Coma, caused by Cirrhosis of the Liver., at 64 years. She resided 51 years in Chicago. They resided at her time of death on 3028 N. Long Ave, Chicago IL. Irving Park Cemetary 7777 W. Irving Park RD. Chicago IL 60634-2191 Funeral Director Henry W. Mueller 5300-12 W. Belmont Ave Chicago (41) IL Biography: Was known for her baking, and always had fresh bread, and apple pie. According to Grandmother Evelyn's BC, Edna had 1 child born before Evelyn, but it died. They had the following children: i. HOHE; Born Before 1923. Died Before 1923. 4 ii. Evelyn Ann "Evie" HOHE 5 iii. Virginia HOHE

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Since I am new to your list, let me introduce myself. My name is Phyllis Dearborn. I live in Wi, USA. My immigrant ancestors come mostly from the Waldmunchen and Treffelstein area.Here are the names I am interested in: NACHREINER BRUCKL Waldmunchen LAUBMEIER Steinlohe(also in Grafenriedand Untergrafenried now in CZ) RING PAULUS PLETZER Treffelstein RUHLAND Glessling DISCHLER(TISCHLER) Frankenschliefe(Ulrichgruen) LIEGL Hocha KRAMER Irlach Most of these names can still be found in the village where I grew up-Plain, WI. Would anyone on this list be from the Waldmunchen area? I am trying to find out where to write to obtain copies of any permission to emigrate records or copies of land or property sales that were completed in order for them to come to America. I am also looking for the names of churches with addresses so I can write for baptismal records. They would be churches in the above towns and also including Ast/Biberbach. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Phyllis Dearborn

Try "The Celtic Empire" by Peter Berresford Ellis. If you are looking for a nice vacation to do this research go to Wuerzburg. The museum at the Kappele has a good display of the artifacts of the early inhabitants of the region. Marcella Dawson At 11:10 AM 1/7/00 -0800, gerald KISABETH wrote: >Hey fellow Bavarians, actually I need the help of a Bavarian History buff. >In writing my family history story I would like to include some history on >the ancient Germanic tribes of the area. >Does anyone know which tribe inhabited the area of Oberfranken before the >Franks? My precise area is around the town of Wunsiedel in the >Fichtelgebirge, east of Bamberg and Bayreuth, just west of Eger. >Any help would be great. I have checked various books but can't seem to find >a dividing line. >Thanks for your time, Gerald Kisabeth >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > Marcella Dawson dawsonm@hal-pc.org http://www.crpc.rice.edu/CRPC/GT/dawsonm/webindex.htm

Hello Bavaria, Need some help locating the name of a church in Fechenbach Gem. Collenburg. (or Collenberg) Bavaria. Took a drive up there but failed to get the name of the church that I went to. I've tried every type of search that I know of to locate the name of the church and keep coming up with zip! Can anyone help I need the name and address? I need also the Dom Kirche that is associated with this church since all of the records were forwarded to Wurzburg. Hugs Wendy mayfieldk@interquest.de

I am researching the town of Hachenburg, Germany. I am trying to find out the history of this town. My gmother was a Hackenberg. Her family was Prince Peter Hachenberg from this area, and also King Wilhelmo Hachenberg from Vienna. Johann Peter Hachenberg came to USA. His brother stayed and inherited the estate and title. I am stuck. Any help would be appreciated. Has anyone ever heard of this town or the names? Thank you, Barbara Carswell BCarswell@aol.com

Hartung is an old German word for "January". Probably your ancestor Johann or whatever had to pay his duty in January, while the other Johann in the same village paid in the fall and was therefor called Johann Herbst (= fall). This is a common way how family names were created. Regards Georg Paulus -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: AWGNMEG@aol.com <AWGNMEG@aol.com> An: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Freitag, 7. Januar 2000 21:28 Betreff: [BAVARIA] Germanic tribes- The HARTUNGen tribe >Speaking of Germanic tribes I have always been wondering if there is anyone >who knows about a Hartungen tribe. Since Our name is HARTUNG I wonder if our >ancestors and our name go back to the Huns. Does anyone know more? > Marilyn > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

List I am searching the SCHWARZKOPF surname in Edelbach, Bavaria. Can some one please help? Albert

I am searching for information on Ludwig BERKER, born in Bavaria in 1850 He and his wife Caroline SCHNEIDER emigrated to the USA in 1895. Would you have advice as to how I can find out where in Bavaria they came from? Your input is much appreciated. Thank You! Regine Brindle bbrindle@netusa1.net

I did not have your address until you sent this response to me. I sent an email to Bavaria-L mail list and to one individual in Bavaria, whose address is not yours, who had responded to a query on the list. Maybe you need to contact Bavaria-L to have your address removed. adlyons@attglobal.net wrote: > please delete my name from distribution list >

List I am searching the SCHWARZKOPF surname from Edelbach, Bavaria. Can some one help me? Albert

Speaking of Germanic tribes I have always been wondering if there is anyone who knows about a Hartungen tribe. Since Our name is HARTUNG I wonder if our ancestors and our name go back to the Huns. Does anyone know more? Marilyn

Hi everybody, Came across these today and thought they might be of use to somebody. For information on P. William Filby's "Germans to America" (with good links) try: <<http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/gtoa.html>> For finding passenger lists 1820-c.1940 try: <<http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html>> Hope this helps somebody out, Jo

Hey fellow Bavarians, actually I need the help of a Bavarian History buff. In writing my family history story I would like to include some history on the ancient Germanic tribes of the area. Does anyone know which tribe inhabited the area of Oberfranken before the Franks? My precise area is around the town of Wunsiedel in the Fichtelgebirge, east of Bamberg and Bayreuth, just west of Eger. Any help would be great. I have checked various books but can't seem to find a dividing line. Thanks for your time, Gerald Kisabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I am trying to obtain the German version of Family Tree Maker. Does anyone know the name of it, how much it costs , or where I can buy it? Thanks , Kathy

Wilhelm: Sometimes, one gets lucky! Thank you for your patience with me. Would you have a suggestion on where I could write to Ebern, Unterfranken, Altenstein for further information on church records there ? (Just once more, Wilhelm, and I won't bother you anymore Thanks, Bernard