Hi all, Some of you might recall that I queried the list a while back in regard to whether or not Bavarian censuses were ever held. For anyone who is interested, I found this information in a book I just received, "In Search of Your German Roots, A Complete Guide to Tracing Your Ancestors in the Germanic Areas of Europe", by Angus Baxter. It says that there were censuses taken in Bavaria (Bayern) for the years 1846, 1849, 1852, 1855, 1858, 1861, 1867, 1946, 1950, 1961 and 1970. The federal government receives the results from the states in order to count the population, but the original returns remain in Bayern and copies can be obtained from the municipal archives or the Civil Register Office in each city or district. In order to obtain copies of the original returns you must have an address in either a city or a village (not as important to have an actual address in a village). Be sure to cite your ancestor's full name, if known, and the names of his or her spouse and children to distinguish them from others. I'm sorry, I do not know exactly what information the returns will show. People might want to contact the central census authority to determine whether or not census returns exist (some were lost during WWII) and where they are located. The address is: Statistisches Bundesamt Gustav Stresemann Ring 11 Postfach 5528 65189 Wiesbaden Areas for research that may or may not have occurred to you/and or apply to you: Church records including Grave Registers, Church Receipt Books (an ancestor may have paid for a bell tolling at a funeral, etc.), Confirmation Records, Local Family Books, Funeral Sermons, Passenger Lists, Civil Registration, Wills, Censuses, Police Registration (started around 1840 and controlled internal movement, records included full name, family details, date and place of birth, and occupation- usually held in local archives, police headquarters or state archives) Military Records, Certificate of Birth (needed when a person wanted to establish citizenship in a city or town, get married or join a guild; issued by civil authorities), Guild Records (for trade unions) German Lineage Books, Archives (city and state), Parish Archives, Family Archives (usually for nobility), Libraries, German Genealogical Associations, and village newspapers. City Archives may contain some or all of the following: Address books, Apprentice Lists, Census Returns, City Chronicles, City Directories, Citizenship Lists, Court Records, Emigration Lists, Family Books, Family Registers, Funeral Sermons, Grave Registers, Guild Books, Land Records, Lineage Books, Newspapers, Parish Registers, Police Registers, Probate Records, Tax Records and Wills. The address for the STATE Archives in Bayern is: Hauptstaatsarchiv Arcisstrasse 12 80333 Munich 2 I also have the addresses to various Church headquarters and a few addresses for genealogical societies in Bayern. Does anyone else have any other suggestions that might have been overlooked? Good luck to you all in your research, Joanne

Hi, the area and the town you are looking for is: Cham Information you can find on the internet http://www.cham.de Greetings from Northern Bavaria Helmut Neuner http://members.xoom.com/kreinberg CWatts1969@aol.com schrieb: > Is any one familiar with Oberphalz area? My grandmother states my > grandfather's father was born in Oberphalz area and Cam area. She is > unsure how the Cam area is spelled. Cam, Kam,???? Any helpful suggestions > would be appreciated. > > A Happy Weekend To All!! > > Thank you, > > Chris > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. > mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

I have an address from abt 1930'50s of an ancestor lining at the following. Can anyone tell me if if is an address still in existance? HOFFMAN, August Pens.Bahnwarter bei Germunder a/m Unterfranken, Bayern, Germany & HOFMANN-BLANK Obersinn bei Germunden a/m Unterfranken, Bayern Germany Thank You Nancy

I have a picture of an ancestor, HOFMANN, dated around mid 1800s (I'm guessing), Most of the family came from Obersinn, Bavaria . He is obviously in a military jacket and there are abt 10 medals across his breast. I can see most of them quite clearly. Is there a site that has pictures of medals awarded in Germany or explains what they are for, when or where? Thanks Nancy

I have found several church pages written in German Script applicable to the names I am searching. I need help getting these "read" and translated back to English. In general, the legibility is good and I have high resolution picture files available that can be sent as attachments for down load. If you have Microsoft Photo Editior under programs on Windows 98, you will be able to read the files easily. If you think you can lend a hand for perhaps 6 entries about 3 lines long each, please contact Roy W Stiegler, Jr email ==> roystiegler@compuserve.com. Thanks, Roy

seeking info on family of JOHANN GEORG HACKER b.1812 Bavaria, married to MARY/MARIA nee: HOELLER/HALLER b.1822 Baden -Wurttemburg. They first appear 1860 census in Pike Co Pa as JOHN & MARY HOCKER, same for 1870 & 1880. JOHANN's death record from local church dated 1888 indicates his place of birth poss Lindenhart or Lindenhamt which i am informed "Lindenhardt" is now part of Creussen, County of Bayreuth. family name has been further anglicized to Hawker.

I am looking for somebody living in or near to Konradsreuth, Hof an der Saale. I recently learned that Konradsreuth has it's own churches. I would appreciate it if somebody are able to do some lookups for me in the Konradsreuth baptism registers round about 1847. Any help will be appreciated. Helena Garner (nee Kriel)

Is any one familiar with Oberphalz area? My grandmother states my grandfather's father was born in Oberphalz area and Cam area. She is unsure how the Cam area is spelled. Cam, Kam,???? Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. A Happy Weekend To All!! Thank you, Chris

am searching for Martin DUERINGER b. ??? Spouse: Elizabeth AMAND .b. 1807, Bavaria d. Sept 1869 PA or Ohio Children: Barbara Sophia DUERINGER b. Barbarie, Bavaria. April 27 1836 d. Feb 3, 1921 Lakewood Ohio Spouse: Charles BRENNER George DUERINGER, b. ???, Mar 29, 1841 d. Cleveland Oh. Apr 7, l927 Spouse: Lena Gressmuck Will be glad to share any information. Contact at CBM1189@AOL.com

Margaretha Sala b. Bavaria cc 1836 to Adam Sala & his wife, unknown. Adam Sala b. Bavaria cc 1840 to Adam Sala & unknown wife. Father was from Darmstadt, Hessen Any information would be appreciated. Lorraine Conroy

More new OTT findings: On Page 34..1st entry: Florian Kappeller (no place of birth given), son of Jacob and Maria (has her maiden name but written so small I can't make it out) and Walburga OTT, daughter of Joannes and Magdelena OTT (MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS!!)--hard to read Magdelena's maiden name--looks like Wisner--but is supposed to be Wiseman. Witnesses: Thomas Boehm and Lucc-- Eng. (Unchtinicus)??? married by H.J. Holzhauer on September 16, 1861 at St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin Walburga OTT and and Florian KAPPELLER moved to Saline County in Missouri...anyone related to this line, please contact me. Susan Petta-Nokes snokes@tscnet.com ==================== Susan Nokes wrote: > I am sending the list a copy of all the OTT stuff I found in St. > Joseph's Catholic Church records...might be a connection for you here > somewhere: > (if you should make a connection, please e-mail back and let me know) > > Joanam Mariam Josephinum Ott, born 13 May 1871, baptized 21 May 1871; > child of: Josepho and Clara; godparents: Josepho and Joannis Ott > > Joannum Josepham Ott, born 4 April 1872; child of Joanne Ott and Maria; > godparents: Joannis and Josephus Ott > > ??Danilum Ott, born 13 July 1872, baptised 4 Aug 1872; child of Joanne > Ott(Orth) and Augusta; godparents: Daniel Ott and Catharina Kilian > > Joannum Ott, born 8 April 1873, baptised 18 May 1873,s/o Joanne Ott and > Josephina; godparents: Joannus Ott and Catharina Boehm > > Annam Angelum Ott, born 19 Aug 1873, baptised 24 Aug 1873 d/o Georgio > and Catharina; godparents: Anna and Joannis Reichl > > Josephinum Mariam Ott, born 17 Sept 1873, baptised 27 Sept 1873, d/o > Joanne Ott and Maria; godparents: Joannis and Josephina Ott > > Joannum Josephum Ott, born 13 Oct 1873, baptised 2 Nov 1873, child of > Josepho and Clara Ott; godparents: Joannis and Maria Ott > > Franziscum Friedericum Ott, born 25 July 1874, baptised 11 Aug 1874, s/o > Joanne Ott and Augusta; godparents: Franz. Fri. Wedl and Math. Riedl > > Annam Josephinam Ott, born 13 Dec 1874, baptised Dec 26, 1874, d/o > Joanne Ott and Josephina; godparents: Anna and Joannis Krimmer > > Carolum Ott, born 12 May 1875, d/o Georgio Ott and Catharina; baptised > 23 May 1875, godparents: Carolm and Maria Reichert > > Christinam Ott, born 25 Dec 1875, baptised 9 Jan 1876; child of Josepho > Ott and Clara; godparents: Christina and Joannis Weber > > Adam Mathiam Ott, born 2 April 1876, baptised 9 April 1876; s/o Jacobo > Ott and Margaretha; godparents: Adam Mathias Ott and Helena Braun > > Joanem Josephum Weber, born 10 March 1876; baptised 23 April 1876; s/o > Joanne Weber and Christina; godparents: Clara and Josephus OTT > > Elisabetham Ott, born 24 September 1876; baptised 8 October 1876; d/o > Joanne Ott and Josephina; godparents: Wilhhelm and Elisabetha Groeger > > Aloysiam Mariam Ott, born 27 April 1877; baptised 6 May 1877, s/o > Georgio Ott and Catharina; godparents: Ferdinandus and Aloysia > (??Pampel??) > > Helenam Ott, born 13 June 1878; baptised 23 June 1878; d/o Joanne B. Ott > and Catharina; godparent: Helena Ott > > Margaretham Magdelenum Ott, born 15 March 1879; baptised 30 March 1879. > d/o Joanne Ott and Josephina; godparents: Magdelena and Bernardus > Krimmer > > Elisabetham Ott, born 15 Oct 1880, baptised 31 October 1880; d/o Joanna > and Anna Ott; godparents: Elisabetha and Philippa Holfelder > > Josephinum Cunagunda Fischer, born 24 Jan 1881, baptised 6 Feb 1881, d/o > Augusto Fischer and Philomena Friedrich; godparents: Josephina and > Joannis OTT > > Adamum Ott, born 3 Jan 1882, baptised 15 Jan 1882, s/o Joanne Ott and > Anna Ehrens(trasen); godparents: Adam and Margaretha Ott > > Ott/Orth Lauram Annam Ott, born 4 January 1882, baptised 5 Feb 1882, > d/o Joanne Ott and Catharina; godparents: Henricus and Anna MICHELS > ***Noted in margin, "Laura Schnieder (widow) nee Orth contracted > marriage with Otto Villwock; November 11, 1950 at St. Dominic, > Sheboygan, WI" > > Susan Petta-Nokes > snokes@tscnet.com > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

I'm sorry about the other web address. It worked this morning before I sent it off. Here is the same site with a different address. http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm Nancy

Looking for family with surnames of Glasel and Theirauf and in the Kronach area. My grandparents were born and died there...would like to do that line on my family tree and hopefully contact family. Email me if you have these names...see if related ....thanks Barbara

Place information: http://www.genealogy.net/gene/www/abt/geoserv.html smada@webtv.net wrote: > > To locate a town in Germany > > WRITE (e mail) > geo@ genealogy.net > Put name of town only > in body of message---no subject no nothing else----nada, nunca,nein, > else...then send...swift return of co-ordinates, population, near > where--- > if town still exists...and you spell it right!! > > Florence > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. > mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

To locate a town in Germany WRITE (e mail) geo@ genealogy.net Put name of town only in body of message---no subject no nothing else----nada, nunca,nein, else...then send...swift return of co-ordinates, population, near where--- if town still exists...and you spell it right!! Florence

I am looking for Adam GLAHN born around 1860, believed to be in the area of Zweibrücken or Pirmasens in then Bavarian Palatinate. If anyone can help, or if this may not be the right list to be on, please let me know. Ich spreche auch Deutsch. David Eyre deyre@gmx.de

I have finally found when my great-grandfather came over from Bavaria. Can someone tell me where Kaiserslautern, Germany is? Andreas Papst came from Germany to New York and finally settled in Saginaw, Michigan. Does he appear in anyone's family tree? > >Papst, Andreas Place : New York > Year : 1852 > Age : 29 > Primary Individual : Papst, Andreas > Source Code : 805 > Source Name : BRAUN, FRITZ. Auswanderer auf dem Schiff "Samuel M. Fox," >Ankunft New York, 4 August 1852. (Schriften zur Wanderungsgeschichte der >Pfaelzer, Folge 21.) Kaiserslautern, Germany: N.p., (196-?). 32p. > Source Annotation : "Emigrants On the Ship Samuel M. Fox, Which Arrived >in New York on August 4, 1852." Date and port of arrival. The list was >sent to Braun by American citizen Albert J. Ruth. Found in the archives of >the city of Kaiserslautern and in published and unpublished records of >various Mennonite communities. The list is also in no. 807 below (a >resetting of 805). > Source Page # : 28 >Papst, Andreas Place : New York > Year : 1852 > Age : 29 > Primary Individual : Papst, Andreas > Source Code : 807 > Source Name : BRAUN, FRITZ. "Auswanderer auf dem Schiff Samuel M. Fox, >Ankunft New York 4.8.1852." In Pfaelzische Familien- und Wappenkunde, vol. >5:1 (1964), pp. 25-32; vol. 5:2 (1964), pp. 57-64; vol. 5:3 (1964), pp. >89-96; vol. 5:4 (1964), pp. 121-125. (Mitteilungen zur >Wanderungsgeschichte der Pfaelzer, 1964. Folgen 1-4.) > Source Annotation : Immigrants On the Ship Samuel M. Fox, Arriving in New >York Aug. 4, 1852. Date and port of arrival. For other details, see no. >805 above. > Source Page # : 96 Susan susanlaesser@worldnet.att.net Susan Laesser susanlaesser@worldnet.att.net

For those interested in Naming Practices. Nicknames & Naming Traditions http://www.tngenweb.usit.com/franklin/frannick.htm

I jst received this from a friend in Switzerland and it may help you. I haven't looked at any of these sites yet...but I will. http://www.uni-marburg.de/archivschule/deuarch.html http://www.uni-marburg.de/archivschule/deuarch1.html Good Luck! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Place" <Gerry708@webtv.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:31 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Churches > Could someone please tell me the names and addresses if there were any > of Lutheran Churches in Rothenburg ob der Tauber,Bavaria circa 1775.I > am trying to find records of ancester who was born there.Also what is > considered a proper donation to the churches for their help. Thanks > for your time.Rita Researching GEISSENDORFER > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

Could someone please tell me the names and addresses if there were any of Lutheran Churches in Rothenburg ob der Tauber,Bavaria circa 1775.I am trying to find records of ancester who was born there.Also what is considered a proper donation to the churches for their help. Thanks for your time.Rita Researching GEISSENDORFER