Hi All, I posted note to this list several weeks ago. I've been trying to find out more about the Ship "ARTHUR" and the names of the 30 Otterstadt, Bavaria Families that sailed on that Ship from Bremerhaven to Quebec in 1852. Many of these families settled in the Waterloo Ontario area. Yesterday, from the Catholic Diocese Archives in Speyer, Germany a list arrived in the mail! What follows is a list of the Surnames on this document and source information. German Title of Document:Namen der Teilnehmer an der Massenauswanderung von 1852 die mit dem englischen Schiff "ARTHUR" in Quebec ankamen. Source of Document [mailing address]: Bischöfliches Ordinariat Speyer Bistumsarchiv 67343 Speyer Web Site [in German] http://www.kath.de/bistum/speyer Surnames on the list... ALBRECHT ALTMANN BONN DECH FAHRENBACH 2 families FLORY GÖCK GROSSMANN [ss is really an'esset'] HECHT 2 families HELL HOHENADEL HÖFLICH KOCH KUHN LEHR 2 families MERZ QUETSCHENBACH REGENAUER REMÜNDER 3 families ROHR SCHMITT SPÄTH TREMMEL 2 families WAAS Hope this helps someone. If you see a name of interest, please contact me directly [i.e. off the list]. Information on the list includes: Surname and First name of Husband,occupation of Husband, Husband married or widowed, number of children, name of children, ages of children. Warm regards, Debbie Paul Tallahassee,FL

To aid in locating a town of origin: You might want to try looking at obituaries, (American) Church death records where they attended at the time of their death, and / or county death records. Also check the county health dept. for a death record or death certificate. Check these records for your ancestor and any others of the same or similar surname in that area. If it is a somewhat "uncommon" surname, you might wish to keep an eye out for info on other immigrants (even to other areas) of the same / similar surname. Then, check the online German telephone directories. These will most likely provide clues that you can follow up on. Larry ----Original Message---- Does any one know what the most popular ports too board the ships to the USA our ancestors would have taken from Bavaria? I'm having a problem finding my grandfather's (John Robl) city of origin in Bavaria.

HI, I know that my FISCHER AND FREY were in WINZINGEN near NEUSTADT an der HAARDT (now an der WEINSTRASSE) It was said their route was thru Le Havre in 1847. Good luck. Mary Widener ----- Original Message ----- From: <jr2@usaor.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Ship Routes "from" Bavaria > Does any one know what the most popular ports too board the ships to the USA our > ancestors would have taken from Bavaria? I'm having a problem finding my > grandfather's (John Robl) city of origin in Bavaria. > > Any suggestions would surly be appreciated. > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. > mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

Does any one know what the most popular ports too board the ships to the USA our ancestors would have taken from Bavaria? I'm having a problem finding my grandfather's (John Robl) city of origin in Bavaria. Any suggestions would surly be appreciated.

Hi, I am new to the list and I have just found out that my ggggrandfather came from Breunigweiler, Bavaria(Bayern?). I am searching for any information about him. His name was George RAUTH born June 5, 1764. He married Katharina WERST in 1789. He died in Germany on September 13, 1843. Katharina was born (in the same area) on April 17, 1772 and died September 23, 1855. They had 3 children (that we know of) Peter, Joseph and John who all went to the U.S. and settled in Defiance, Ohio sometime around 1855. This is my very first venture into German genealogy so any and all information about this family or any advice as to where to go for research would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Diana

My German ancestors port of embarkation was BREMEN. The pasenger records did not indicate where they lived. Is there a way to find out from German sources. One ship The SS Weser arived in Baltimore MD USA April 12, 1889 The names or the list are George Fortsch age 45 Farmer Catherina age 50 George age 18 K??ig (f) age 12 Michael age 10 Agnes age 8 2nd Ship SS America arived in Baltimore May 20, 1888 The family name is NOPPINGER on the ship list it looks like NEPPINGER Johann Noppinger age 47 Tailor Catharine age 37 Michael age 11 Catharina age 10 Nicolaus age 6 I do not know when either ship left Bremen. Thanks, Greg Burton Baltimore, MD

I am leaving town for 2 weeks and have lost the info on unsubscribing. Would the list owner unsubscribe me please. Peace, love and laughter, Elizabeth Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@hotmail.com evc1369@earthlink.net http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/garden/4548 website for former sisters and nuns

Michael Sargl's birthplace is Hemau, Bavaria. Family history reports that his wife, Augusta Käflein, was also born in a nearby village and they met in the US where they married, however, all official documents pertaining to her Käflein family state that they were born in Baden. Another family source states her birthplace as Cariarhua-Baden. Does anyone know if there is such a place? Maybe it was a misinterpretation of Karslruhe-Baden. Is Baden adjacent to Bavaria? Thank you for any help, Nancy Rose

Hi list. I am looking for info for my step Dad. He has a Martha Margaret Bennz or Benz born abt 1883, Hamburg Germany. I have seen the name Benz on the list and was wondering if there is any connections. Her father was William Bennz born abt 1861, ? and her mother's name was Louisa b. abt 1863, ? that is all the info that I have, which is not much I know. thanks for your time and efforts. Dawn

Where can I read all the messages?? Brian Schaller@it.bw

Hi Good People, Searching for SCHALLER descendants in area around Augsburg of those below. 1. Johan Jakob SCHALLER born May 10 1728 in Oberhausen, Bavaria - any descendants 2. Dominik Jakob Pius SCHALLER born July 23, 1785 in Augsburg region? 3. Johan Baptist SCHALLER born June 24, 1787 in Ebersbach ,Bavaria 4. Joseph Alois SCHALLER born December 18, 1794 in Augsburg or region. Any help will be happy happy Brian Schaller in wet Botswana schaller@it.bw

Hi, Wondering if anyone follows EPTING family from Schwarzwaldkreis? Emil Rudolph Epting married Maria Rosa Waldmann 9 Oct 1830 Looking to learn more about Waldmann family... Dave Waldmann Dhwaldmann@aol.com

Dear List - Earlier I posted the attached message regarding the book 'Germans Emigration to Russia 1763-1862'. I have since been told that the book IS NOT rare. I'm very sorry if this posting caused problems for anyone. I was reiterating the message posted at the auction. Again I'm very sorry. Nancy I was browsing Ebay.com and noticed a rare book, German > Emigration to > Russia 1763-1862, up for auction. The auction can be > viewed by going to > ebay. Then click books, then rare, type in Germany in the > box, click > books, click descriptions and the Go. The book is Item > #284206348 and > the auction ends 21 March at 19:28 PST. > > I thought this might help someone and be a nice reference > book. I am NOT > connected to ebay or the auction. > > Nancy >

Looking to connect with other people who are researching these lines: Jakob MAULWURF a shephard (born Jul 30, 1840 in Grossartelshofen and died Nov 30, 1914 in Etzelwang) and wife Anna BIRKMANN Maulwurf (born about Jul 1, 1845 in Vorra and died Feb 16, 1907 in Etzelwang). Some of their children who stayed in Germany are Johann Maulwurf a train conductor (born May 1, 1875 in Etzelwang), Sabina Maulwurf (born May 16, 1873). Johann was married to Margarethe WIESEND (born May 31, 1911). One of Johann's and Margarethe's daughters married a Georg LOOS a plumber (born Jul 28, 1912 in Neutros). Jakob and Anna's son, my great grandfather Georg Anton MAULWURF was a Lutheran minister (born Oct 26, 1871 in Etzelwang and died in 1935 in Wisconsin, USA). They were of the Lutheran faith. Thanks for any help you can give me. Kris Brewer Rein Rochester, Minnesota, USA

Listers, I am looking for these names in my family tree. Any descendants, or anyone who may have any information, please contact me. Johann Fink and Rosina Hubler Gossliwil, Solothurn, Switzerland Urs Fink 1761 and Maria Mollet 1766 Urs Fink 1806 and Elisabeth Mollet 1813 Elisabeth Fink Anna Maria Fink 1846 and Fritz Houselmann m. 1877 Anna Barbara Fink 1850 and Benediks Marti m. 18876 Benediks Fink 1802 and Elisabeth Henzi 1808 Johann Fink 1840 and Anna Maria Stuber 1840 Adam Stuber and Elisabeth Rufer m. 1822 Alexander Fink and Louise Spahr m 1888 Alfred Fink and Carolina Rosina Maglin m 1888 Johann Fink and Henriette Christ m . 1897 Josef and Regina Saner 1825 Gerrie Lee Fink in NJ CHICKADEE2@AOL.COM researching: BEGLEY, BUHOFER,BALL,BLAUTH, BRASSINGTON, BLOOD,CHRIST,CHRISTEN, CLAY,COXON, COATES,CARTLIDGE,CARTWRIGHT,DUNCAN,ELDER,FINK,FOSKETT,HUBLER,HOUSELMANN,HENZI, LIEM, MOLLET,MARTI,MULLER,MAGLIN,MILLS,RUFER,STUBER,SCHUMACHER,SPAHR,SANER,SCHMIDT,S MITH,SCHINDLER,STERCHI,WILLIAMSON,YOUNG,ZURCHER.

I was browsing Ebay.com and noticed a rare book, German Emigration to Russia 1763-1862, up for auction. The auction can be viewed by going to ebay. Then click books, then rare, type in Germany in the box, click books, click descriptions and the Go. The book is Item #284206348 and the auction ends 21 March at 19:28 PST. I thought this might help someone and be a nice reference book. I am NOT connected to ebay or the auction. Nancy

At 01:35 PM 3/16/00 EST, CWatts1969@aol.com wrote: >Hello All!! > >I could use some help. Part of my family came from Warmensteinach, Germany. > On maps, it is just NE of Bayreuth. > >Would any one know where I need to look for information for my people in this >town? > >As Nurnberg falls into Mittelfranken, what would Warmensteinach fall under?? > >Hope someone can help. Thanks Chris - Davenport, IA > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Just click this and send it. It is all set up for you. >mailto:Bavaria-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > >Hi Chris; According to Hall's "The Atlantic Bridge to Germany", Warmensteinach falls under the bezirke(district) of Oberfranken and is in the Landkreis(county) of Bayreuth. Phyllis in Wisconsin

Have just found info on a German poet by the name of Hans Sachs who married a K. Kreutzer and had 7 children. He was a famous mastersinger and a shoemaker as his trade. Does anyone know the names of his children and their descendants. I have found my Sachs back to the 1790s and I was wondering if my ancestors are related to this Hans Sachs. Thanks in advance. Judy in NC

Hello All!! I could use some help. Part of my family came from Warmensteinach, Germany. On maps, it is just NE of Bayreuth. Would any one know where I need to look for information for my people in this town? As Nurnberg falls into Mittelfranken, what would Warmensteinach fall under?? Hope someone can help. Thanks Chris - Davenport, IA

Searching Charllotta ROEDENGERBER HEICK, born in Frankenthal, Bavaria on May 6, 1798. Married Carl Heick in Germany. Had one daughter, Catherine, born April 22, 1835 in Durkheim.