In a message dated 12/5/2002 11:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am researching my Bavarian ancestors also, > if I emailed the Lutheran Archives at Regensburg should I send it in German > or English, I cannot speak or write German, I would have to go to a > translation website Hello Barbara: If you click on the website below, and then on "English Information for Genealogists" you can find some information. Apparently you can write in English, but the reply will probably be in German. You could paste the reply in an e-mail, and someone on the list will translate it for you. <A HREF="http://www.lkan-elkb.de/">Lutheran Archives - Germany</A> Paul C. Miller

Barbara, If you have difficulty with that website address from Paul (as I did), try this http://www.lkan-elkb.de/ or this http://www.lkan-elkb.de/lkanre/genealogy/genealogy.htm Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] 97475 Zeil am Main > In a message dated 12/5/2002 11:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I am researching my Bavarian ancestors also, > > if I emailed the Lutheran Archives at Regensburg should I send it in German > > or English, I cannot speak or write German, I would have to go to a > > translation website > > Hello Barbara: > If you click on the website below, and then on "English Information for > Genealogists" you can find some information. Apparently you can write in > English, but the reply will probably be in German. You could paste the reply > in an e-mail, and someone on the list will translate it for you. > <A HREF="http://www.lkan-elkb.de/">Lutheran Archives - Germany</A> > > Paul C. Miller > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

Excuse me for "butting in" but I am researching my Bavarian ancestors also, if I emailed the Lutheran Archives at Regensburg should I send it in German or English, I cannot speak or write German, I would have to go to a translation website. I am researching Emskirchen Churches for births and marriages 1845 and back.Thank you for any help. Barbara Worth [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 06:16 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] 97475 Zeil am Main > In a message dated 12/4/2002 9:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > am aware that Churchrecords for Zeil am Main are housed at the > > Catholic Archiv in Wuerzburg. Does anybody know for what years and for > > what Churches? I think there was only one church (Catholic) in Zeil am > > Main in the 16th century (Kreuzkapelle). > > > > My interest concerns a Reformation era preacher (Protestant, probably > > Lutheran) named "Johannes Flinner" (aka Flenner, Flimmer, Flinder, > > etc.). > > Hello Larry: > If no one on the lists gives you the information you are looking for, you > could send an e-mail to the Diocesan Archives in Wuerzburg and ask about the > records: > E-mail: [email protected] > > Also, the Lutheran archives in Regensburg might be able to give you some info > about Johannes Flinner: > E-mail: [email protected] > > Hope this helps. > Paul C. Miller > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

In a message dated 12/4/2002 9:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > am aware that Churchrecords for Zeil am Main are housed at the > Catholic Archiv in Wuerzburg. Does anybody know for what years and for > what Churches? I think there was only one church (Catholic) in Zeil am > Main in the 16th century (Kreuzkapelle). > > My interest concerns a Reformation era preacher (Protestant, probably > Lutheran) named "Johannes Flinner" (aka Flenner, Flimmer, Flinder, > etc.). Hello Larry: If no one on the lists gives you the information you are looking for, you could send an e-mail to the Diocesan Archives in Wuerzburg and ask about the records: E-mail: [email protected] Also, the Lutheran archives in Regensburg might be able to give you some info about Johannes Flinner: E-mail: [email protected] Hope this helps. Paul C. Miller

Hello All, I am trying to locate historical / genealogical information concerning 97475 Zeil am Main. My Interest is primarily 16th and 17th century. I am aware that Churchrecords for Zeil am Main are housed at the Catholic Archiv in Wuerzburg. Does anybody know for what years and for what Churches? I think there was only one church (Catholic) in Zeil am Main in the 16th century (Kreuzkapelle). My interest concerns a Reformation era preacher (Protestant, probably Lutheran) named "Johannes Flinner" (aka Flenner, Flimmer, Flinder, etc.). My sources imply that he was born ca. 1520 in Zeil, Bayern; he possibly attended University in Basel, Switzerland (ca. 1530-1533); was a Deacon at Heiligkreuzkirche in Augsburg until the Interim of 1548, (at some time he served as court preacher for King Christian III of Denmark), served at Heiliggeistkirche in Heidelberg, before settling into a position as Pfarrherr (pastor) at the Muenster (Cathedral) in Strassburg. He died 1578, either at Strassburg or Heidelberg (depending on which source is believed). Thank You, Larry L. Flinner, Jr. aus Ohio, USA

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Many thanks for all the information that has been posted to this list. Now when I go back to the photo shop I will have a better idea as to what to look for in a camera. Someone suggested that I take an old document with me, photo it and then have the photo shop print it out. This way I can see how the camera "really" works and the results. Sincerely, Susan Griffin _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hello, I would prefer if everyone writes the names (or area too) in capital letters, especially in long emails. It would be much easier to read it quickly. Thanks Monika

i have a sony md mavica........ i wouldn't say its an expensive camera (i paid 400 for it).... but its a nice camera and i have taken many many pictures of pictures, newspapers, or anything that i needed to. i think its definitely the way to go donna Mike Kennedy wrote: > Here are my too cents worth of opinion. > > I have, what most people would consider, a high end camera (Olympus C700 > ultra Zoom). It does a lot of things and it should for the price. However it > does too many things. It has so many internal menus to change picture > resolution, colors, hues, distances, and other camera lens things, I will > never be able to use all in ten years. I might use a basic 5 things and > settings and never use the other 30-40 settings. > > It depends on what the use will be. For close in work, (Macro) of text, > gravestones, microfilm screens, etc a simpler camera should work. > > If you will also be taking telephoto (long range ) pictures, a 6x-10x > optical lens camera would be needed. > > If you are going to take a simple picture, use it on screen or in print > WITHOUT magnifying or zooming in on details in the picture, a simple camera > with 1-1.5 megapixal resolution is fine. > > If, after taking the picture, you ARE going to magnify or zoom in on the > faces, or text, or map or whatever, you will need a 2-3 megapixel > resolution. Each increment of zoom will magnify the picture but it will make > the edges more jagged. Eventually you will get a picture greatly magnified, > but too jagged edged to read. > > The higher the resolution 2-3-4 or 5 megapixel of the original picture, the > more you can zoom in to see details, before it gets too jagged edged. > > If I was doing it all over again and only going to use this camera for > Genealogy, (pictures of books, gravestones, Microfilm, and other simple > things like home photographs), I would pick a 3x-4x optical zoom camera with > 3-5 button settings, and resolutions of 1-2 megapixel. It would have a good > strap for carrying around the neck. It would have a protective lens or lens > cover. It would flat surfaced (no protruding lenses) for easy carrying in > pocket, purse, or briefcase. It would have expandable memory (not just > internal that could lose pictures if the batteries fail or come loose). > Memory like Smart Media or compact media (whose prices keep coming down) > which can be switched in the camera if more memory is needed immediately. > > Mike Kennedy > Dayton Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Schwarz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:16 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Digital Camera for Genealogy Use > > > I would ask that any responses regarding which camera is best/adequate > > for genealogy use, be posted on the list, not sent to individuals, > > because there is probably general interest in this subject. The cameras > > suggested by the photography store appear to be high end cameras > > (judging by the megapixels). Could a camera with lower resolution (and > > cost) do a good job? > > > > Bill Schwarz > > Fredericksburg VA > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Sister or Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

Hi, The present land (State) of Baden-Wuerttemberg is an amalgamation of the 19th Century Kingdom of Wuerttemberg; the Grand Duchy of Baden and the Duchy of Hehenzollern. It is one of the eleven Lander (States) which make up the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany). This Land State is of particular interest to the ancestor hunter because of the great number of people who immigrated from there to America and other parts of the world. (The Atlantic Bridge to Germany, Baden-Wuerttemberg , Charles M. Hall, The Everton Publishers, Inc. 1976) Swabia on the other hand did become a part of Bavaria while two Landkreise in Wuerttemberg became known as Schwabisch Gmuund and Schwabish Hall. I don't have the dates of the Swabian movement. It seems to me you should be looking in Wuerttemberg-Baden. John

Mr. Kohl, Thanks so much for the reply! While I will be the first to say I am no geography major (; ), I will say that I understand. (Most days for me, that's amazing.) Thanks for your help. If you can help further, please feel free. Also, I am on the Weurttemberg-Baden list. Thanks! Randy Hughes Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Johann Philip Emmert (Emert) > Hi, > The present land (State) of Baden-Wuerttemberg is an amalgamation of the 19th > Century Kingdom of Wuerttemberg; the Grand Duchy of Baden and the Duchy of > Hehenzollern. It is one of the eleven Lander (States) which make up the > Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany). This Land State is of particular > interest to the ancestor hunter because of the great number of people who > immigrated from there to America and other parts of the world. (The Atlantic > Bridge to Germany, Baden-Wuerttemberg , Charles M. Hall, The Everton > Publishers, Inc. 1976) > Swabia on the other hand did become a part of Bavaria while two Landkreise in > Wuerttemberg became known as Schwabisch Gmuund and Schwabish Hall. > I don't have the dates of the Swabian movement. > It seems to me you should be looking in Wuerttemberg-Baden. > John > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

Dear List Members, I am hopeful that someone might be able to help me find the Father and Mother of Johann Philip Emmert (Emert?). I have, for many years now, been at a dead-end here. I do not have any disc's that tell of the Parents of immigrant children as Johann was old enough to come to America with his wife and family. I would be eternally greatful to any help I receive on this project! Randy Hughes Tennessee 1. Johann Phillip1 Emmert1,2 was born 1802 in Bavaria Kingdom, Wuerttemberg, Germany3,4, and died August 1849 in Allegheny, PA.5,6. He married (1) Anna Marie Geurgin7,8. She was born November 02, 1806 in Germany9,10, and died September 17, 1846 in Butler Co. PA.11,12. He married (2) Christina Gerueta13,14 Abt. 1847 in PA.. She was born in Germany, and died in Allegheny, PA. (?)15,16. More About Johann Phillip Emmert: Immigration: 1833, From Bavaria Weternburg Germany to Pennsylvania Spouse: Anna Maria Geurgin Birth Year: 1806 Burial: Butler Co., PA. Children of Johann Emmert and Anna Geurgin are: + 2 i. Jacob Sidney2 Emmert, born December 11, 1827 in Bavaria Kingdom, Wuerttemberg, Germany; died Aft. 1910 in Lawrenceburg, TN.. + 3 ii. John Adam Emmert, born October 03, 1829 in Bavarian Kingdom, Wuerttemberg, Germany; died May 08, 1910 in IA.. 4 iii. Elenora Emmert17,18, born December 12, 1830 in Bavaria Kingdom, Wuerttemberg, Germany19,20; died August 02, 183321,22. 5 iv. John Emmert, born June 14, 1833 in Bavaria Kingdom, Wuerttemberg, Germany; died December 17, 1836. 6 v. Anna Marie Emmert23,24, born September 17, 1836 in Allegheny County, PA.25,26; died 193027,28. + 7 vi. Andrew Jackson Emmert, born March 09, 1838 in Chambersburg, Franklin, PA.; died February 11, 1918 in LancasterTwsp, Jefferson Co., IN.. + 8 vii. Phillip Emmert, born June 13, 1839 in Bedford, PA.; died April 07, 1898 in Sewickley, Allegheny, PA.. 9 viii. Nicholas Emmert29,30, born May 07, 1841 in PA.31,32; died October 19, 1841 in PA.33,34. 10 ix. Henry Emmert35,36, born April 16, 1843 in PA.37,38; died November 28, 1844 in PA.39,40. 11 x. Dorthea Emmert41,42, born December 02, 1844 in PA.43,44; died December 14, 1844 in PA.. 12 xi. Elenora Emmert, born April 16, 1835; died July 28, 1836. Children of Johann Emmert and Christina Gerueta are: + 13 i. Ferdinand Y.2 Emmert, born September 19, 1847 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, PA.; died August 09, 1916 in Swissvale, Allegheny, PA.. + 14 ii. Peter F. Emmert, born March 01, 1849 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, PA.; died July 21, 1928 in Wilkinsburg, Allegheny, PA..

List members, Mike Kennedy has a lot of good ideas about digital photography. Here is my 2 cents worth. We always want to have a copy of a document for our genealogy and there are lots of ways to get the copies. If they are a public record, at least in most the the United States, you can order a copy from the county clerk or whoever is the record holder, for a few dollars. If you are at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, by all means use their copiers and printers. Our local LDS family history library has a microfilm viewer without a printer. For best results, I have been using a Single lens reflex film camera with 1600 speed film. (The projected images are often not very bright so the fast film is necessary.) Even then the prints from film may not be very legible. You can scan the bad prints and then make corrections in contrast and color using Photoshop or some similar program. Sometimes it can help a lot. Takes patience and many tries. This method can even help some images you may download from the internet. My digital camera is an Olympus D150 (older model) 1.3 megapixel with 3X optical zoom and a macro feature (close-up: 0.2m to 0.5m,/ 8 in to 1.6 ft) . Has lots of menus and buttons to press. Takes a while to learn how to use the ones you really need. It came with a CD of software that was easy to install. Runs on Win98 or newer, and on Mac OS 8.6+. Using the Macro feature and optical zoom it takes good pictures of small objects. You can turn off the flash to take pictures of Microfilm projected images. When you use the macro feature, you should frame the picture and focus on the screen, not in the viewfinder because the viewfinder is not accurate that close to the subject. It takes good pictures outdoors, so it would be good for cemeteries, family homes, and so forth. It is about the size of a pack of cigarettes. has nothing sticking out when not in use, and fits in a shirt pocket. Needs a longer strap so you can hang it around your neck and not lose it if it falls out of your shirt pocket. Connects to a computer through a USB port. Shows pictures on a television. It came with an 8MB SmartMedia card. I bought a 64 MB card for more memory. It came with a one piece battery equal to 2 AA size batteries, but it seems to need a special recharger. I now use 2 AA size Nickel metal hydride (NIMH) batteries. They have a pretty good life and can be recharged in one hour. Dan Brennan

Here are my too cents worth of opinion. I have, what most people would consider, a high end camera (Olympus C700 ultra Zoom). It does a lot of things and it should for the price. However it does too many things. It has so many internal menus to change picture resolution, colors, hues, distances, and other camera lens things, I will never be able to use all in ten years. I might use a basic 5 things and settings and never use the other 30-40 settings. It depends on what the use will be. For close in work, (Macro) of text, gravestones, microfilm screens, etc a simpler camera should work. If you will also be taking telephoto (long range ) pictures, a 6x-10x optical lens camera would be needed. If you are going to take a simple picture, use it on screen or in print WITHOUT magnifying or zooming in on details in the picture, a simple camera with 1-1.5 megapixal resolution is fine. If, after taking the picture, you ARE going to magnify or zoom in on the faces, or text, or map or whatever, you will need a 2-3 megapixel resolution. Each increment of zoom will magnify the picture but it will make the edges more jagged. Eventually you will get a picture greatly magnified, but too jagged edged to read. The higher the resolution 2-3-4 or 5 megapixel of the original picture, the more you can zoom in to see details, before it gets too jagged edged. If I was doing it all over again and only going to use this camera for Genealogy, (pictures of books, gravestones, Microfilm, and other simple things like home photographs), I would pick a 3x-4x optical zoom camera with 3-5 button settings, and resolutions of 1-2 megapixel. It would have a good strap for carrying around the neck. It would have a protective lens or lens cover. It would flat surfaced (no protruding lenses) for easy carrying in pocket, purse, or briefcase. It would have expandable memory (not just internal that could lose pictures if the batteries fail or come loose). Memory like Smart Media or compact media (whose prices keep coming down) which can be switched in the camera if more memory is needed immediately. Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Schwarz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:16 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Digital Camera for Genealogy Use > I would ask that any responses regarding which camera is best/adequate > for genealogy use, be posted on the list, not sent to individuals, > because there is probably general interest in this subject. The cameras > suggested by the photography store appear to be high end cameras > (judging by the megapixels). Could a camera with lower resolution (and > cost) do a good job? > > Bill Schwarz > Fredericksburg VA > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

Mike, You describe my Kodak DX3700 to a "T". In addition to your criteria it has 3.1 mpixels and several resolution settings. The software is foolproof. Once installed on your computer all that is left to do is to plug the camera (via cable) into an USB port. The software activates automatically once you turn on the camera and you can transfer pictures from camera to computer. Memory expansion is through a multi-media card (64mb about the size of a postage stamp). Pricing for this memory is dirt cheap. 128mb cards (same size as the 64) are selling for less than $50 on eBay. Klaus Dieter Cook Houston, Texas | If I was doing it all over again and only going to use this camera for | Genealogy, (pictures of books, gravestones, Microfilm, and other simple | things like home photographs), I would pick a 3x-4x optical zoom camera with | 3-5 button settings, and resolutions of 1-2 megapixel. It would have a good | strap for carrying around the neck. It would have a protective lens or lens | cover. It would flat surfaced (no protruding lenses) for easy carrying in | pocket, purse, or briefcase. It would have expandable memory (not just | internal that could lose pictures if the batteries fail or come loose). | Memory like Smart Media or compact media (whose prices keep coming down) | which can be switched in the camera if more memory is needed immediately. | | | Mike Kennedy | Dayton Ohio

I would ask that any responses regarding which camera is best/adequate for genealogy use, be posted on the list, not sent to individuals, because there is probably general interest in this subject. The cameras suggested by the photography store appear to be high end cameras (judging by the megapixels). Could a camera with lower resolution (and cost) do a good job? Bill Schwarz Fredericksburg VA

Photocopies are 23 cents per sheet now in the Family History Library. The price was raised Dec 2000 to offset the raising costs of toners and papers. Still discouraging the flashes attached to digital cameras. If you have built in flash inside your camera, fine since it will not wash out. However there is 3rd option - scan the documents to CD. Cost is only $1.25 or $1.75 CD. Add as many as you can and reservation is required for an half hour. Can continue past 1/2 hour if there is no one in the following 1/2 hour. W. David Samuelsen

Hello, I have been going through some old mail and came upon the attached letter. The first mentioned website (foko) turned up nothing, however, I was only able to enter a surname as that was all the info I had. What did surprise me, though, is that I did NOT have to register. Am I missing something? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Michael Rauck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Roll calls and alternatives > Hello, > > I do not want to enter the discussion if roll calls are permitted, > justified, useful etc., but just draw your attention to two sites where > you can store (and view) the contents of surname roll calls in a more > systematic way: > > For all of Germany > http://foko.genealogy.net > (a little bit hard and time-consuming to use for the not-so-experienced, > and you have to register yourself beforehand) > > For Bavaria only: > http://bavariangenealogy.com/entre/index.html > (click surnames) > (easier to use). > > Make sure that you look for the surnames yourself on both sites. > > Michael > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

When you buy a digital camera be sure to find out how to turn off the flash for taking pictures where the flash is not allowed. And for taking pictures of microfilm projections, where the flash will wash out the image. My camera has a macro function, which is good for close-up photos of documents. If you are too far away, text will be too small to view, even if you enlarge it in the computer, where it gets pixelated. Dan

If you intend to make copies of Records in the Genealogical lybrary in Salt Lake City you need no camera all records of books or micro Film can be photocopied right in the library at 10 c per copy that is what they were in 1992 -1993 when we served as Missionaries there.