Thomas, Are you living in Pilzen or just descended from there? They make excellent beer. No sign of a town with that spelling (Sübke/Sülbke) in Bavaria. You can look for yourself at http://bavariangenealogy.com/bh/ortes.htm. Could Sübke/Sülbke be SOLPKE, located 30 miles NW of Magdeburg, Germany? No luck on finding a town with spelling Sübke/Sülbke *anywhere else* in all of EUROPE. What is your source for this spelling? The town of KOHLAU (KOLOVA) in Czech is 5 miles SE of Karlovy Vary and about 40 miles NW of Pilzen. That's about 70 miles west of Prague. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Sübke or Sülbke in Bavaria???? > Hello List Members: > > I'm hot on the trail of the DANHOF/DANNHOFF/DANHOFF family trail. We have > found the birthplace of this family unit at a city/village of Sübke or Sülbke > in Bavaria. Could someone tell me where this village is located? So far, we > have not been able to locate this village, after many months of research. > > The other village associated with this family in Kahlau in Bohemia and would > like to know where this village may be located. I suspect it was either > located NW of Prague or it could have been SW of Pilsen. > > This family unit was strongly associated with the manufacturing business. > > Danke und Mit Freundlichen Grussen, > > Thomas H. Semelbauer (Semmelbauer) >Bavaria>Bohemia > Pilsen District

Hello List Members: I'm hot on the trail of the DANHOF/DANNHOFF/DANHOFF family trail. We have found the birthplace of this family unit at a city/village of Sübke or Sülbke in Bavaria. Could someone tell me where this village is located? So far, we have not been able to locate this village, after many months of research. The other village associated with this family in Kahlau in Bohemia and would like to know where this village may be located. I suspect it was either located NW of Prague or it could have been SW of Pilsen. This family unit was strongly associated with the manufacturing business. Danke und Mit Freundlichen Grussen, Thomas H. Semelbauer (Semmelbauer) >Bavaria>Bohemia > Pilsen District

Thank you, Paul, for your informative response. The family was Catholic so I will definitely contact the Diocesan Archive. Kind regards, Juliet Moritz

In a message dated 12/18/2002 7:38:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > My understanding is that the records for LDS Schweinfurt only begin in the > 1880s, well after Anna Maria emigrated. > Hello Juliet: If you do not receive a better response from someone on the list, you might try the following. If you want to research the Church records for Schweinfurt, they have probably been moved to the archives and are no longer in the local churches. If your family was Catholic, the Schweinfurt records (for two Churches) are in the Diocesan Archive in Wuerzburg. The e-mail address is: [email protected] If the family was Lutheran, the archive e-mail is: [email protected] The archives will do the research for you, but for a fee You can write in English, but the reply might be in German, which, if you post to the mailing list, someone can translate for you. It's probably not necessary to include any detailed family info in your e-mail, because the archives will advise you first of the procedures and fees before conducting any research. If for some reason the records are located somewhere else, ask the archives for contact information. Good luck with your search. Paul C. Miller

Hope someone can shed some light on this mystery, my g.g.grandfather Adam Sala was listed in the 1870 Girardville,Pa census living with his son Adam & wife & daug, Margareth Becker & her children. 1880 census shows him to be living in Tamaqua,Pa with what appears to be the same daughter, except the name read Elizabeth, he is listed and all infor fits him to a "T". Is it possible that the daughter is Elizabeth Margareth Becker. Any idea as to how to find out and prove this. Would like to find where he is buried. ------------------------------------ Cooper: William died 1876 , is he buried in one of the local cemeteries in Ashland. His wife died in 1914 and is buried in Pt Carbon where she lived with her son, my g,uncle. --------------------------------- Thanks to all for inf MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL & A HAPPY,HEALTHY NEW YEAR. Lorraine Conroy

Hello, I am looking for any information on the LANG family of Schweinfurt, Bavaria. Specifically I am interested in: Anna Maria LANG born 07 July 1841 - she emigrated to the US appox. 1865 and married Johannes Sixtus Moritz in Philadelphia in 1871. Josephine LANG (DOB: unknown) - she was Anna Maria's sister. She married a man named RATH. They had a daughter, Barbara Rath, who emigrated to the US in the early 1900s to serve as governess to Anna Maria's grandchildren, John and Joseph Moritz. Catherine LANG (dob: approx. 1829) - also Anna Maria's sister. My understanding is that the records for LDS Schweinfurt only begin in the 1880s, well after Anna Maria emigrated. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have just had surgery and will be housebound for some time, unable to get to the LDS center. Kind regards, Juliet Moritz

Does anyone have a connection with this Gruber Family? Records only indicate Bavaria. However Adalbert lived in Fachsenfeld, Wuerttemburg before immigrating to Australia with his family about 1912. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Frank Cullison Descendants of Francis Gruber Generation No. 1 1. Francis1 Gruber was born Abt. 1855 in Bavaria. He married Mary. She was born Abt. 1855 in Bavaria. Child of Francis Gruber and Mary is: + 2 i. Adalbert2 Gruber, born April 19, 1878 in Bavaria; died February 06, 1941 in Sydney, Australia. Generation No. 2 2. Adalbert2 Gruber (Francis1) was born April 19, 1878 in Bavaria, and died February 06, 1941 in Sydney, Australia. He married Marrianna Brenner. She was born February 17, 1879 in Fachsenfeld, Wurttemburg, and died August 16, 1949 in Sydney, Australia. Frank

I am new to the list. I am researching the following families: Jacob BETZ born abt. 1812 in Bavaria (don't know exactly where). Don't know when he came to US, but he shows up in Chicago, Illinois about 1856 until about 1875. He may have lived in New York prior to this. Jacob is my brick wall. Anna Maria GRUS born 12/29/1835 in Weisenfeld, Bavaria came to America as a child with her parents George J GRUS and Anna (nee HOFFMAN). She also shows up in Chicago, Illinois married to Jacob Betz abt 1859. I don't know when she came to America or where she lived prior to being in Chicago. Jacob & Anna had 8 children while living in Chicago from 1859 until 1875. Where is Weisenfeld? I have very little knowledge of the location of Germany's cities. Margaret J from Wisconsin

Thomas, There has some research been done relating to the Hafenbrädl family of Eisenstein - one of the famous families in the glass business in both the Bavarian and the Bohemien forest. Would you be interested to get in touch with them? Michael Rauck -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAVARIA] GRUNDLER, DANHOF,DANK,BARNOSKE,YONKERS,DETRICK,SEMMELBAUER,-Eisenstein Hello Bavaria List Family: For some time I have been researching my GRUNDLER family and thought I would send the list members a profile of my family connection with the aspiration that someone would have additional information and or a family connection. All roots seem to point to the region of Eisenstein-Bavaria or the sister city of Eisenstein-Bohemia within the Pilsen District of Bohemia. The first, and some of the second generation of the Grundler family in America, were engaged in the glass manufacturing business and suspect the earlier generations (1800-1850) were also engaged in the same enterprise. Below you will find a brief profile of what I know of my Grundler family associations. It is my sincere desire to communicate with anyone who may have further information concerning this family. Mit Freundlichen Grussen und Cheers, Thomas H. Semelbauer (Semmelbauer) [email protected] Descendants of Wentz & Margaret Grundler Generation No. 1 1. WENTZ1 GRUNDLER was born Abt. 1810 in Germany or Bohemia/CR. He married MARGARET. She was born Abt. 1815 in Germany or Bohemia/CR. More About WENTZ GRUNDLER: Death Certificate: 1913, See Death Certificate for Andrew Grundler, Madison Co., Board of Health, Anderson, Ind., Book # 2CH-8, page 33 Child of WENTZ GRUNDLER and MARGARET is: 2. i. ANDREW2 GRUNDLER, b. April 1842, Bohemia/Austria, Germany, probably Eisenstein-Bohemia or Eisenstein-Bavaria; d. October 1, 1913, Alexandria, Indiana, USA. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW2 GRUNDLER (WENTZ1) was born April 1842 in Bohemia/Austria,Germany, probably Eisenstein, and died October 1, 1913 in Alexandria, Indiana, USA. He married MARY DANK Abt. 1865 in Austria, Germany?. She was born April 1844 in Austria,Germany, and died Unknown in After 1913. More About ANDREW GRUNDLER: Blessing: October 1913, Rev. Father Francis Faust, St Mary's Catholic Church, Alexandria, Ind. Burial: October 1913, Alexandria, In .USA Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe St., Alexandria, Ind. Death Certificate: October 1, 1913, Madison Co., Board of Health, Anderson, Ind., Book # 2CH-8, page 33, father was Wentz and mother was Margaret, Grundler, born in Germany. Immigration: 1885, From Austria Obituary: October 3, 1913, Alexandria Times Tribune, Alexandria, Indiana Occupation: Glass manufacturing Children of ANDREW GRUNDLER and MARY DANK are: i. KATHERINE3 GRUNDLER, b. October 21, 1865, Eisenstine, Bavaria, Germany; d. January 14, 1947, Saginaw, Michigan; m. FREDRICK DANHOF, January 21, 1888, Tarentum, PA; b. March 5, 1868, Eisenstein, Bavaria, Germany; d. March 15, 1940, Saginaw, Michigan. More About KATHERINE GRUNDLER: Blessing: January 15, 1947, Case Chapel Msgr. John J. Sonefeld Burial: 1947, St. Andrews, Cemetery, Saginaw Immigration: 1885, 1930 Saginaw, Michigan US Census Obituary: 1947, January 15, Saginaw News, Saginaw Michigan Religion: Catholic, Peter & Paul's Church, member of Altar Society and League of Catholic Women More About FREDRICK DANHOF: Blessing: March 16, 1940, Case Chapel Fr. John J. Sonefeld, officiate. Burial: 1940, ST. ANDREW Cemetery, Saginaw, Michigan Census: 1930, 1632 Stanley Street, Saginaw, Michigan Emigration: 1885, PENNSYLVANIA from Austria and moved to Alexandria, Indian in 1898 Nationality: German Bohemia Obituary: 1940, Saginaw News, March 15th Occupation: Saginaw Plate Glass Company Residence: Moved to Saginaw in 1910 from Indiana and was living in TAURENTUM, PA 1885 ii. THERESIA GRUNDLER, b. February 2, 1867, Austria; d. May 23, 1921, Saginaw, Michigan; m. HERMAN BARNOSKE, 1885, Tarentum, Pennsylvania; b. June 25, 1862, Germany; d. December 29, 1935, Saginaw, Michigan. More About THERESIA GRUNDLER: Blessing: May 1921, Rev. Fr. Edward LeFevre of Peter and Paul's Church Burial: 1921, Forest Lawn, Saginaw, Michigan Immigration: 1882, From Austria Nationality: Bohemian - German Obituary: 1921, Saginaw News Courier, May 24th Residence: 1904, Came to Saginaw from Penn in 1904 More About HERMAN BARNOSKE: Blessing: 1935, Rev. Henry W. Fischer, W.L. Case & Company Chapel Burial: 1935, Cemetery: FOREST LAWN Emigration: 1903, US AS A YOUNG MAN/SAGINAW Obituary: 1935, Saginaw Daily News, December 30th Residence: 1935, 1209 Mackinaw Street, Saginaw, Michigan iii. JOSEPH GRUNDLER, b. Abt. 1873, Austria. More About JOSEPH GRUNDLER: Census: 1930, Single, living on Huron St., Ottawa, ILL. 64 years old, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED74, page 9B Census1: 1920, Single, 47 years old, immigrated 1884, naturalized, glass factory, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED 142, page 11B Immigration: 1878, 1930 Ottawa, ILL census Residence: 1947, Living in Ottawa, ILL as of January 15, 1947 iv. ELIZABETH SADIE GRUNDLER, b. Abt. 1875, Austria; m. JOHN YONKERS. More About ELIZABETH SADIE GRUNDLER: Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Marion, Indiana as of January 15, 1947 v. ANNA GRUNDLER, b. April 7, 1876, Eisenstein, Bohemia/Austria; d. November 18, 1954, Muskegon, Michigan; m. RICHARD SEMMELBAUER, February 7, 1893, Holy Name Catholic Church, Sheboygan, Wis; b. May 27, 1865, Unter Vollmau, Bohemia, Austria; d. June 28, 1918, Muskegon, Michigan USA. More About ANNA GRUNDLER: Burial: 1954, Lakeside Cem. Muskegon, Michigan Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Marriage Witnesses: Max Wensauer, Michael Thomas, Jennie Thomas Obituary: 1947, See Obit for Catherine Grundler Danhoff, January 15, 1947, Saginaw News, Michigan Religion: Katholisch-Catholic More About RICHARD SEMMELBAUER: Baptism: May 28, 1865, St. Antonius Church, Vollmau, Bohemia, Austria Burial: 1918, Lakeside Cemetery, Muskegon, Michigan Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. City Directory: 1893, 1016 St. Clair Avenue, Sheboygan, Wisconsin Emigration: November 7, 1890, Hamburg, Germany, from Vollmau, Bohemia, Ship Normannia, Port of New York Godparents: Joseph Hartl and Franziska Eheweib Marriage official: Msg. D.F. Thill, Catholic Priest Marriage Witnesses: Max Wensauer, Michael Thomas, Jennie Thomas Midwife: Franziska Bauer aus (of) Ober-Vollmau Nationality: German Bohemian Naturalization: February 18, 1897, East Deer Township, Allegheny County, PA Occupation: Glassmaker Religion: Katholisch-Catholic vi. WENTZ GRUNDLER, b. October 1881, Austria, Germany. More About WENTZ GRUNDLER: Census: 1930, Single, living at Walnut St., Ottawa, ILL, 49 years old, naturalized, working at piano factory, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED72, page 8B Census2: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Ottawa, ILL as of January 15, 1947 vii. FRANCES GRUNDLER, b. September 1885, Penn. USA; m. FRANKLIN B. DETRICK, July 1, 1911, Grant County, Indiana book 18, page 382. More About FRANCES GRUNDLER: Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Marion, Indiana as of January 15, 1947 ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

Hello Bavaria List Family: For some time I have been researching my GRUNDLER family and thought I would send the list members a profile of my family connection with the aspiration that someone would have additional information and or a family connection. All roots seem to point to the region of Eisenstein-Bavaria or the sister city of Eisenstein-Bohemia within the Pilsen District of Bohemia. The first, and some of the second generation of the Grundler family in America, were engaged in the glass manufacturing business and suspect the earlier generations (1800-1850) were also engaged in the same enterprise. Below you will find a brief profile of what I know of my Grundler family associations. It is my sincere desire to communicate with anyone who may have further information concerning this family. Mit Freundlichen Grussen und Cheers, Thomas H. Semelbauer (Semmelbauer) [email protected] Descendants of Wentz & Margaret Grundler Generation No. 1 1. WENTZ1 GRUNDLER was born Abt. 1810 in Germany or Bohemia/CR. He married MARGARET. She was born Abt. 1815 in Germany or Bohemia/CR. More About WENTZ GRUNDLER: Death Certificate: 1913, See Death Certificate for Andrew Grundler, Madison Co., Board of Health, Anderson, Ind., Book # 2CH-8, page 33 Child of WENTZ GRUNDLER and MARGARET is: 2. i. ANDREW2 GRUNDLER, b. April 1842, Bohemia/Austria, Germany, probably Eisenstein-Bohemia or Eisenstein-Bavaria; d. October 1, 1913, Alexandria, Indiana, USA. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW2 GRUNDLER (WENTZ1) was born April 1842 in Bohemia/Austria,Germany, probably Eisenstein, and died October 1, 1913 in Alexandria, Indiana, USA. He married MARY DANK Abt. 1865 in Austria, Germany?. She was born April 1844 in Austria,Germany, and died Unknown in After 1913. More About ANDREW GRUNDLER: Blessing: October 1913, Rev. Father Francis Faust, St Mary's Catholic Church, Alexandria, Ind. Burial: October 1913, Alexandria, In .USA Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe St., Alexandria, Ind. Death Certificate: October 1, 1913, Madison Co., Board of Health, Anderson, Ind., Book # 2CH-8, page 33, father was Wentz and mother was Margaret, Grundler, born in Germany. Immigration: 1885, From Austria Obituary: October 3, 1913, Alexandria Times Tribune, Alexandria, Indiana Occupation: Glass manufacturing Children of ANDREW GRUNDLER and MARY DANK are: i. KATHERINE3 GRUNDLER, b. October 21, 1865, Eisenstine, Bavaria, Germany; d. January 14, 1947, Saginaw, Michigan; m. FREDRICK DANHOF, January 21, 1888, Tarentum, PA; b. March 5, 1868, Eisenstein, Bavaria, Germany; d. March 15, 1940, Saginaw, Michigan. More About KATHERINE GRUNDLER: Blessing: January 15, 1947, Case Chapel Msgr. John J. Sonefeld Burial: 1947, St. Andrews, Cemetery, Saginaw Immigration: 1885, 1930 Saginaw, Michigan US Census Obituary: 1947, January 15, Saginaw News, Saginaw Michigan Religion: Catholic, Peter & Paul's Church, member of Altar Society and League of Catholic Women More About FREDRICK DANHOF: Blessing: March 16, 1940, Case Chapel Fr. John J. Sonefeld, officiate. Burial: 1940, ST. ANDREW Cemetery, Saginaw, Michigan Census: 1930, 1632 Stanley Street, Saginaw, Michigan Emigration: 1885, PENNSYLVANIA from Austria and moved to Alexandria, Indian in 1898 Nationality: German Bohemia Obituary: 1940, Saginaw News, March 15th Occupation: Saginaw Plate Glass Company Residence: Moved to Saginaw in 1910 from Indiana and was living in TAURENTUM, PA 1885 ii. THERESIA GRUNDLER, b. February 2, 1867, Austria; d. May 23, 1921, Saginaw, Michigan; m. HERMAN BARNOSKE, 1885, Tarentum, Pennsylvania; b. June 25, 1862, Germany; d. December 29, 1935, Saginaw, Michigan. More About THERESIA GRUNDLER: Blessing: May 1921, Rev. Fr. Edward LeFevre of Peter and Paul's Church Burial: 1921, Forest Lawn, Saginaw, Michigan Immigration: 1882, From Austria Nationality: Bohemian - German Obituary: 1921, Saginaw News Courier, May 24th Residence: 1904, Came to Saginaw from Penn in 1904 More About HERMAN BARNOSKE: Blessing: 1935, Rev. Henry W. Fischer, W.L. Case & Company Chapel Burial: 1935, Cemetery: FOREST LAWN Emigration: 1903, US AS A YOUNG MAN/SAGINAW Obituary: 1935, Saginaw Daily News, December 30th Residence: 1935, 1209 Mackinaw Street, Saginaw, Michigan iii. JOSEPH GRUNDLER, b. Abt. 1873, Austria. More About JOSEPH GRUNDLER: Census: 1930, Single, living on Huron St., Ottawa, ILL. 64 years old, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED74, page 9B Census1: 1920, Single, 47 years old, immigrated 1884, naturalized, glass factory, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED 142, page 11B Immigration: 1878, 1930 Ottawa, ILL census Residence: 1947, Living in Ottawa, ILL as of January 15, 1947 iv. ELIZABETH SADIE GRUNDLER, b. Abt. 1875, Austria; m. JOHN YONKERS. More About ELIZABETH SADIE GRUNDLER: Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Marion, Indiana as of January 15, 1947 v. ANNA GRUNDLER, b. April 7, 1876, Eisenstein, Bohemia/Austria; d. November 18, 1954, Muskegon, Michigan; m. RICHARD SEMMELBAUER, February 7, 1893, Holy Name Catholic Church, Sheboygan, Wis; b. May 27, 1865, Unter Vollmau, Bohemia, Austria; d. June 28, 1918, Muskegon, Michigan USA. More About ANNA GRUNDLER: Burial: 1954, Lakeside Cem. Muskegon, Michigan Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Marriage Witnesses: Max Wensauer, Michael Thomas, Jennie Thomas Obituary: 1947, See Obit for Catherine Grundler Danhoff, January 15, 1947, Saginaw News, Michigan Religion: Katholisch-Catholic More About RICHARD SEMMELBAUER: Baptism: May 28, 1865, St. Antonius Church, Vollmau, Bohemia, Austria Burial: 1918, Lakeside Cemetery, Muskegon, Michigan Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. City Directory: 1893, 1016 St. Clair Avenue, Sheboygan, Wisconsin Emigration: November 7, 1890, Hamburg, Germany, from Vollmau, Bohemia, Ship Normannia, Port of New York Godparents: Joseph Hartl and Franziska Eheweib Marriage official: Msg. D.F. Thill, Catholic Priest Marriage Witnesses: Max Wensauer, Michael Thomas, Jennie Thomas Midwife: Franziska Bauer aus (of) Ober-Vollmau Nationality: German Bohemian Naturalization: February 18, 1897, East Deer Township, Allegheny County, PA Occupation: Glassmaker Religion: Katholisch-Catholic vi. WENTZ GRUNDLER, b. October 1881, Austria, Germany. More About WENTZ GRUNDLER: Census: 1930, Single, living at Walnut St., Ottawa, ILL, 49 years old, naturalized, working at piano factory, LaSalle Co., Ottawa ED72, page 8B Census2: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Ottawa, ILL as of January 15, 1947 vii. FRANCES GRUNDLER, b. September 1885, Penn. USA; m. FRANKLIN B. DETRICK, July 1, 1911, Grant County, Indiana book 18, page 382. More About FRANCES GRUNDLER: Census: 1900, 1120 West Monroe, Alexandria, Ind, located in the county of Madison, Monroe Township, in the City of Alexandria. Residence: 1947, Living in Marion, Indiana as of January 15, 1947

Hallo, I want to report briefly, why I after Schratt vigorous. Tim Stieg, from Ohio, said to me somewhat about a castle in Oberammergau. I did not know this castle, although I grew up only 50 kilometers far away from it. Then I went to the archivist into Oberammergau and asked this. He said to me then of the designer of the castle. It was Leonhard B. Schratt. Schratt L went to 1902/1903 to the USA. The archivist of Oberammergau wanted to know more from the Schratt family in the USA. I said to him, I wanted to help. I learned the owner of the Ammerburg castle in Oberammergau now to know also. It is the Countess of Ingeheim Molitor, which lives now in Munich. She said to me, that there father the castle bought. She gave me a book, in which the Ammer castle was described briefly. The book is of Andreas Ley and has the title "the mansion as castle". The book is appeared 1981 in the publishing house D W. Callwey in Munich. ISBN 3-7667-0567-9. It is written in German. In this book I read also from Katharina Schratt, which had a dwelling in Triest. The Ammer castle in Oberammergau has the same appearance as the Schloss Miramare briefly before Triest. Schratt Leonhard has probably this Schloss on one of its journeys after Triest to its sister seen and this Schloss in Oberammergau, somewhat smaller, copied. I found many Schratt in the environment of Oberammergau. I look for all Schratt, which want to still live more of Schratt in the USA and say to me. Perhaps you can say to me more. I look forward already to your answer. Regards Klaus Labow from Munich [email protected]

It appears to me from having ancestors in NE as well as in the South, that reuse of a name was more common in the North. The thrifty Yankees never threw away anything, including a name. They were more likely to reuse a name than were the Southerners. And they did it in my family, too. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] HEINLEIN > was it common practice years ago, that if a child died, a new child would be > given that name? seems feasible to me and was certainly done in my family > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

I have found that the following emigrated to America, Mauch Chunk (now Jim Thorp) in the mid 1850. Any help tracing their family back to Bavaria, Germany would be appreciated: William Rader, b) 1820 Possibly from Bad Duerkheim Adam Rader, his son, b) 7 Feb 1847 Catherine Spohrer, Williams wife b) 1817, Bavaria Xavier Oppold, b) ?? , Possibly from Wurtemberg, Saxony, Germany George Oppold, his son, b) 20 Apr 1831, Bremen area of Saxony, Germany Barbara Satzenhofer (Spelling ?), Wife of George Barbara Koelen,, second wife of George Thanks [email protected]

Ortssippenbach for Heinlein?

for Mainklein Bavaria?

If anyone knows where one exits, pls contact me, danke!

JENAPREßNITZ is a Town,not a City it belonges to the City JENA in the Provinc of SACHSEN , WEIMAR is the City of the Government seat NEUTZ a Town not a City. in the SAALKREIS, Kreis meaning District. SAALKREIS meaning District on the River SAALE. HOLLENBACH is a town not a city in the JAGSTKREIS, again kreis meaning District , also JAGST-District. in the Province of WÜRTHENBERG DORNBURG a City Amts Gericht JENA Provinc SACHSEN- WEIMAR EISENACH is also a City in Provinz SACHSEN Bezirks Kommando JENA Bezirks Kommandos are Millitary Command Post. This Information is taken from the MaiersGassetier of 1912 I hope this helps ARK

Greetings All: I am attempting to build a database for my German (PLANNERER) ancestors and possible relatives. I have come across several names of places I want to use in the database, but do not understand in what categories they belong. Most of these are listed with records from the 1700-1800's. I guess one of the things that is confusing me is that I am used to a city being named first, then a state, and then the country. I get confused when the names are: 1. more than the typical 3 2. when one time the name is second, then next time it is last, and the later it might be in the 3rd position. 3. One time it is part of a 3 part name, then the next time they are separate names For example: Jenapriessnitz, Sachsen-Weimer-Eisenach, Thuringen Is Jenapriessnitz a city? Is Sachsen-Weimer-Eisenach a region or 3 regions ( or some other kind of district )? I believe that Thuringen was a country/kingdom at that time (but was later a state?) The next record splits the name and switches the wording around. Dornburg, Eisenach, Weimar, Sachsen Sometimes Sachsen is first or second , like a town or region; the next time it is last, like a state or Kingdom. I hope someone can clarify the confusion. Hollenbach, Jagstkreis, Wuerttemberg Was Hollenbach a city, Jagstkreis a region and Wuerttemberg a state/Kingdom at that time? What about Neutz, Saalkreis, Sachsen, Preussen? What about Friedingen, Donaukreis, Wuerttemberg? I would appreciate any help you can give. Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio

Hi Listmates, Searching for anyone related or linked to the below people. Sending to many list so sorry if you get this one then once. Many Thanks, Jean Jondreau Johann Nickel HAAS, Sr., b. Nov. 11, 1707, d. Dec. 24, 1767 his son, Johann Nickel HAAS, Jr., b. April 1, 1743, d. Jan. 1, 1792 his son, Johannes HAAS, b. Sept. 11, 1769, d. Jan. 3, 1836, married Maria Elisabeth UNGERATH his son, Adam HAAS, Sr., b. Sept. 24, 1801, married Elisabeth S. FRENGER. his son, Adam HAAS, Jr., b. March 15, 1834, in Rehborn, (Pfalz-Rheinland today), Baden, Bavaria, Germany.

Thank you Paul and Norm for your input. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] 97475 Zeil am Main > In a message dated 12/5/2002 11:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I am researching my Bavarian ancestors also, > > if I emailed the Lutheran Archives at Regensburg should I send it in German > > or English, I cannot speak or write German, I would have to go to a > > translation website > > Hello Barbara: > If you click on the website below, and then on "English Information for > Genealogists" you can find some information. Apparently you can write in > English, but the reply will probably be in German. You could paste the reply > in an e-mail, and someone on the list will translate it for you. > <A HREF="http://www.lkan-elkb.de/">Lutheran Archives - Germany</A> > > Paul C. Miller > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >