Thanks you for the tip. I have their marriage record in America but no birthplace is listed. As well no parental information is listed either. It's very disappointing. Dana ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Johan and Appollonia Dotzler > In a message dated 5/7/03 8:09:28 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Don't forgot check there home church.[ Catholic] > > Raynona Gunther Bohrer > Searching for Gunther/ Ginter/ Ginther/ Guenther, Eslauer > Bissing, Koerner, Knoll, Sabelfield all from Katharinenstadt Russia > From the Ukraine Hiebert, Striemer, Funk > Roots from England > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

Hi, I am new to this mailing list, and have in fact never subscribed to a mailing list, so I hope I am following the rules. Here goes: I am searching for history on my Dotzler family. This is the information that I know. Johan (John, Joannis,) and Appollonia Dotzler (her maiden name is Dotzler as well) immigrated to America, and landed in New York on May 27, 1846 aboard the Washington. According to his naturalization papers he was from Bavaria. Her obituary states her birthplace as Beiern which I am told could be Baiern (or Bavaria). I am aware that there is a Beiern in Thuringia but feel they were probably from the same area. They at first settled in Milwaukee and finally ended up near Bonair Iowa. Johan died Aug 28, 1888 and Appollonia died July 6, 1903. I have been unable to find what town they were from. I am currently waiting for copies of their death records in the hopes that it will states the exact location in Bavaria. I know that they were Catholic. I was hoping that someone out there is a Dotzler with information to help me, or that someone might know of a concentration of Dotzler's in Bavaria. If anyone else out there is searching for Dotzler's I will gladly share the information that I have. Thanks for any help. Dana Stokes [email protected]

I too have the names of Muller and Schneider in my family tree.

This is all I have on Englehard/t: Englehard, George 1 yr 6 days b. 1/14/1902 d. 1/20/1903 cert # 1371 f- George m- Minnie 325 Stagg St, Bklyn, NY Darmstadt 80 Harrison Place, Bklyn, NY Evergreen cem. 1/23/1903 Greenwood cem., Bklyn, NY. 3 in grave # 6952 Pleasant Hill section: 12/11/1899 Lina Stratton, nee Hohler [B. Sr`s sister] 1/23/1903 George Englehard/t [lena`s gson] 8/5/1906 Barbara WAGNER, nee HOHLER [B. Sr] Barbara : )

Searching for info on this family: George WAGNER & Barbara HOHLER/SCHNEIDER/BLANKENMEYER had 4 sons in Bklyn, NY, 1880`s: John, Joseph, Jacob, Henry. Jacob* B. 6/8/1885 d. 10/24/1916-suicide, name on d. cert is Joseph Joseph B. died b4 1953 John B. 1888? d. 7/20/1922 35 yrs single Mt. Olivet cem with B jr Henry still alive in 1954 Bklyn. cert # 5423 Jakob WAGNER b. 6/8/1885 Ten Eyke St. mother Barbara BLANKENMAIER, nee HOHLER age 36 b. Leicror[?], Germany father Georg WAGNER age 43 b. Beieror[?], Germany Barbara HOHLER/SCHNEIDER/BLANKENMEYER/WAGNER b. 4/6/1851 Bavaria, Germany m. to George WAGNER d. 8/5/1906 55 yrs 3 mo 29 days cert # 15580 Bushwick hospital 7/23/1906--8/5/1906 cod acute supperintion cholecystitis hapatic sciarris [?] 37 yrs. in USA [18 yrs. old-1869] cem. Evergreen Funeral director Michael Dukes 184-186 Meeker Ave., Bklyn [Greenpoint] Anything familiar? Barbara : ) BARRETT, BURKE, BYRNE, CORRIGAN, GALLAGHER, McNALLY, QUINN. BAUER, BEARE, BEIMANN, BEEKMAN, BEUSCHER, BLANKENMEYER, CASTLE, DECKER, ENGLEHARD/T, HELMKEN, HOHLER, HURRINUS, JOHNSON, KANLEY, KELLER, KITTELBERGER, LOW, MILLER/MEULLER/MULLER, RANGESSEN [sp?], ROLLMANN, SCHNEIDER, SOFFEL, STERRITT, STRATTON, TRAVER, UMBROLIA, VETTER, WAGNER, WEIGAND, WILLIAMS BUDARZ, ROMANSKI.

Oh, and I wish tooooooo..... sighhhhhhh.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] B4 1850--Bav.>NY > > In a message dated 5/4/03 5:40:22 PM, [email protected] writes: > > >Barbara Schneider Engelhardt > > I wish, sighhhhhhh....... > > Mine were all in Bklyn. > > Thanx, > Barbara : ) > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

Actually, she was born in NY; no idea where! Kel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] B4 1850--Bav.>NY > > In a message dated 5/4/03 5:40:22 PM, [email protected] writes: > > >Barbara Schneider Engelhardt > > I wish, sighhhhhhh....... > > Mine were all in Bklyn. > > Thanx, > Barbara : ) > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

In a message dated 5/5/03 11:29:31 AM, [email protected] writes: >Decker and Bauer. Hi- Will of Katherine McNally Beekman: File # 2986/83 [1983] name Relationship Grace Soffel Decker Daughter of Lena Miller Soffel, pre-deceased half sister of the decedent. 1870 No addresses given. BAUER: Frederick 52 carpenter b. Bavaria both parents b. Bav. citizen [B.1818] Katharina 44 " " " " [1826] Karolina 19 do??? making b. NY [doily?] [1851] Anna 17 " " " [1853] Frederick 16 carpenter " [1854] Adolph 13 " [1857] Lena 9 school " [1861] Wm. 7 " " [1863] John 4 " [1866] Bauer in same bldg: Heinrich 81 b. Bavaria both parents b. Bav. citizen [b. 12/16/1789] Elizabeth 75 b. Bavaria both parents b. Bav. [b.1795] Caroline/Carolyn BAUER/MILLER/McNALLY`s known kids: Carrie Julius b. 1870 Mary(Minnie) b. 9/1872 m. Charles WILLIAMS, b. 6/28/1865 Henry b. 2/1875 m. Barbara BLANKENMEYER [my gparents] Lena b. 5/30/1881 m. Charles SOFFEL Katherine m. Wm. Otto BEEKMAN [K & M were nee McNALLY] Mathilda b. 9/21/1894 m. Jos. VETTER These are my first known NY Bauers. Barbara : )

In a message dated 5/4/03 5:40:22 PM, [email protected] writes: >Barbara Schneider Engelhardt I wish, sighhhhhhh....... Mine were all in Bklyn. Thanx, Barbara : )

> Subject: > > BAVARIA-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 75 > > > BAUER, BEARE, BEIMANN, BEEKMAN, BEUSCHER, BLANKENMEYER, CASTLE, DECKER, > ENGLEHARD/T, HELMKEN, HOHLER, HURRINUS, JOHNSON, KANLEY, KELLER, > KITTELBERGER, LOW, MILLER/MEULLER/MULLER, RANGESSEN [sp?], ROLLMANN, > SCHNEIDER, SOFFEL, STERRITT, STRATTON, TRAVER, UMBROLIA, VETTER, WAGNER, > WEIGAND, WILLIAMS > > Anything familiar? > > Barbara : ) > Hi Barbara, Possible Decker and Bauer. Need more infor. Marianne

Barbra, I have relatives here in NY with the Muller name, Weigand, and Schneider.. I am not sure if it is a match, but you can email me.. Denise [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] B4 1850--Bav.>NY > BAUER, BEARE, BEIMANN, BEEKMAN, BEUSCHER, BLANKENMEYER, CASTLE, DECKER, > ENGLEHARD/T, HELMKEN, HOHLER, HURRINUS, JOHNSON, KANLEY, KELLER, > KITTELBERGER, LOW, MILLER/MEULLER/MULLER, RANGESSEN [sp?], ROLLMANN, > SCHNEIDER, SOFFEL, STERRITT, STRATTON, TRAVER, UMBROLIA, VETTER, WAGNER, > WEIGAND, WILLIAMS > > > Anything familiar? > > Barbara : ) > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

Hi Barbara, I don't know if I missed an earlier thread or not; but I have a John Engelhardt married to Barbara Schneider Engelhardt. John was born in 1843 in Bavaria, and came to NY ?; died 1912 in Bath, NY. Buried in Oakwood Cemetery; Syracuse, NY. Children: Mary Margareth Engelhardt and Marie Engelhardt. Any help appreciated! Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] B4 1850--Bav.>NY > BAUER, BEARE, BEIMANN, BEEKMAN, BEUSCHER, BLANKENMEYER, CASTLE, DECKER, > ENGLEHARD/T, HELMKEN, HOHLER, HURRINUS, JOHNSON, KANLEY, KELLER, > KITTELBERGER, LOW, MILLER/MEULLER/MULLER, RANGESSEN [sp?], ROLLMANN, > SCHNEIDER, SOFFEL, STERRITT, STRATTON, TRAVER, UMBROLIA, VETTER, WAGNER, > WEIGAND, WILLIAMS > > > Anything familiar? > > Barbara : ) > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

BAUER, BEARE, BEIMANN, BEEKMAN, BEUSCHER, BLANKENMEYER, CASTLE, DECKER, ENGLEHARD/T, HELMKEN, HOHLER, HURRINUS, JOHNSON, KANLEY, KELLER, KITTELBERGER, LOW, MILLER/MEULLER/MULLER, RANGESSEN [sp?], ROLLMANN, SCHNEIDER, SOFFEL, STERRITT, STRATTON, TRAVER, UMBROLIA, VETTER, WAGNER, WEIGAND, WILLIAMS Anything familiar? Barbara : )

Hello Stephen, For some ideas on locating your German ancestor's hometown in Germany see... Basic Research Outline for German Genealogy http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/outline.html Scroll down to where it says, "Find your Immigrant Ancestor." For information on German emigration lists see... Online German Emigration Databases & Indexes http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/emigration.html You will also find a guide on that page (near the bottom) for locating German emigration lists offline at the Family History Library. Good luck with your search. Regards, Joe stephen lubell <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings! > My maternal Great Great Great Grandfather emigrated from Bavaria to the > US in November 1836. He and his family (wife and three children) sailed > from the port of Le Havre to New Orleans. > The shipping register listed him as a farmer by occupation and coming > from Bavaria. I am trying to find the name of the town or village where > they came from in Bavaria and would like to ask the following questions > of the list membership: > 1. Would they have required a passport or laissez-passez at that time > and, if so, where would they have obtained it? And what archives would > keep an archives of applications for such documents? > 2. What route might they have followed from Bavaria? Down the Rhine to > Bremen or Hamburg and from their by ship to Le Havre? > 3. What resources or archives might have a comprehensive list of > emigrants from that period? > Please reply to me off line at [email protected] > With my thanks in advance! > Stephen Lubell

Hi from munich, germany My Grandmom was a born Forster from Dorfen (Bavaria)

FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD. ROMANS 6:23

Hi, I'm looking for information regarding the following families. My main interest is in the REITBERGER name. Here are some of the area the Reitberger's were from: Oberaign, Trupolding, Kopfsburg, Zilling, Plattling, and finally Strasskirchen. I would also be interested in information regarding those names associated with REITBERGER: ABITZ, ALT, BADER, BERGER, BINDL, DENK, DIETRICH, FORSTER, GEITH, GRUBER, HACKL, HENRICHS, KEMMER, KRESS, LINDMAIER, MATTES, ROHN, ROTHMAYER, SAGEDER, SCHWENGER, SCHWERTFUHRER, STADLER, STAAR, STEER, STEININGER, TROST, TRUG, WANNINGER, WINKLHARRER, ZURZLMEIER, Thanks in advance Kay R Descendants of FRANZ REITBERGER 1 Franz REITBERGER 1750 - 1800 . +Theresia STADLER 1750 - 1800 ...... 2 George Reitberger 1778 - 1836 .......... +Katharina BERGER 1775 - 1837 .............. 3 Georg Reitberger 1805 - 1873 .................. +Katharina STEER 1807 - 1866 ...................... 4 Franz Xaver Reitberger 1821 - 1894 .......................... +Theresia ROTHMAYER 1825 - 1891 .............................. 5 Johann Baptist Reitberger 1852 - 1917 .................................. +Anna ALT 1852 - 1919 ...................................... 6 Johann Reitberger 1877 - 1950 .......................................... +Franziska SAGEDER 1881 - 1953 ............................................... 7 Maria Magdalena Reitberger 1906-1978 ................................................... +Rupert TROST 1906-1945 ............................................... 7 Franziska (Fanny) Reitberger 1907-1956 ................................................... +Carl TRUG 1902 - 1978 ............................................... 7 Johann Reitberger 1909-1980 ................................................... +Rosa STAAR 1913 - ............................................... 7 Rosa Reitberger 1910-1995 ................................................... +Karl KRESS 1910-1959 ............................................... 7 Anna Reitberger 1912-1961 ............................................... 7 Maria Reitberger 1913-1913 ............................................... 7 Maria Reitberger 1915-1915 ............................................... 7 Anton Reitberger 1916-1976 ................................................... +Kathe BADER 1926 - ............................................... *2nd Wife of Anton Reitberger: ................................................... +Hilde ZURZLMEIER 1929 - ............................................... 7 Maria Reitberger 1918 - ................................................... +Adolf FORSTER 1914-1987 ............................................... 7 Georg Reitberger 1920-1941 ................................................... +Maria STADLER 1920 - ...................................... 6 Rosina Reitberger 1880-1950 ...................................... 6 Ludwig Reitberger 1882-1942 .......................................... +Marie GEITH 1885-1954 ............................................... 7 Ludwig Alfons REITBERGER 1908-1987 ................................................... +Gertrude Luis MATTES 1914-1991 ............................................... 7 Marie REITBERGER 1913 - ................................................... +Ralph HENRICHS 1912 - ...................................... 6 Georg Reitberger 1887-1967 .......................................... +Therese SCHWERTFUHRER 1892-1970 ............................................... 7 Hildegard Reitberger 1932 - ...................................... *2nd Wife of Georg Reitberger: .......................................... +?erste?? ............................................... 7 Georg Reitberger 1916-1940 ...................................... 6 Michael Reitberger 1888-1958 .......................................... +Magdalena BINDL 1882-1981 ............................................... 7 Johann Reitberger 1919-1991 ................................................... +Luise ROHN 1920 - ............................................... 7 Josef Reitberger 1921 -1993 ................................................... +Delfine Anna KEMMER 1923-1958 ............................................... *2nd Wife of Josef Reitberger: ................................................... +Anna HACKL 1924 - ............................................... 7 Wilhelm Reitberger 1922 - ............................................... 7 Anna Reitberger 1923-1930 ............................................... 7 Alfons Reitberger 1924-1926 ............................................... 7 Heinrich Reitberger 1926-1945 ............................................... 7 Rosa Reitberger 1927 - ................................................... +Franz DIETRICH 1927 - ............................................... 7 Hildegard Reitberger 1928-1929 ............................................... 7 Hermine Reitberger 1931 - ................................................... +Otto STEININGER 1930 - ............................................... 7 Michael Reitberger 1932 - ................................................... +Erna GRUBER 1940 - ...................................... 6 Anna Reitberger 1889 - 1951 .......................................... +Ludwig DENK 1884 - 1945 ............................................... 7 Herman DENK 1916 - 1993 ................................................... +Hertha ABITZ 1918 - ...................................... 6 Franz Xaver Reitberger 1895-1973 .......................................... +Therese WANNINGER 1896-1961 ............................................... 7 Franz Xaver Reitberger 1921 - ................................................... +Gertrud SCHWENGER 1924 - ............................................... 7 Manfred Reitberger 1935 - ................................................... +Ulrike WINKLHARRER 1948 - ............................................... *2nd Wife of Manfred Reitberger: ................................................... +Christa LINDMAIER 1938 -

looking for any information on FRED (WILLIAM FREDERICK)FISCHER,born abt 1830 BAVARIA. his father born in Saxony and mother born BAVARIA. wife ROSA MUELLER, born abt 1832 BADEN. both parents born BADEN. FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD. ROMANS 6:23 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

going away for 2 weeks thanks

Hi listmembers, I have tried to figure this question out on my own and cannot seem to come up with an answer. If this is the wrong 'forum' please disregard my question. I have a couple, George and Bertha GUTHMANN, born 1829 and 1835; he born in Bavaria, she in Wurttenberg. From different census records, they came to the US between 1872-1875. Their four children are as follows: George; born 1861; FRANCE Freiderich, born 1863; FRANCE Martin, born 1867; FRANCE Bertha, born 1868; FRANCE Here is my problem: Was Bavaria part of modern day Baden-Wurttenberg? And at the time of the children's birth, did the borders change so that if they lived in Wurttenberg, maybe it belonged to France? And does 'Guthmann' sound Jewish? I know that I have Schaff ancestors around the same time frame, who lived in Leiderscheidt, A-L; their child, Henry, was born in 1862 in Paris, they then came to the US in 1872.....? Thank you for any help, Kelly Michaels Schaff