My great great grandmother, Lissette BAUMGARTNER, was born September 18, 1876 in Langenzenn. The 1920 census record indicates she came to the U.S. about 1893. I cannot find any record of her arrival or locate her on a census record before 1920. Her death certificate indicates that her father's name was Leonhard REUTTER, born in Langenzenn. Church records in Chicago indicate that her maiden name was BAUMGARTNER and not REUTTER. (This is just the begining of my confusion.) Her obituary indicates she had a brother named Leonhard REUTTER. A researcher in Germany was unable to find a Lissette Baumgartner born on the above date in Langenzenn. But, he did find in Lutheran Church archives a Christine Elisabetha Luise Margaretha REUTTER born February 9, 1876 in Langenzenn to Johann Leonhard REUTTER and Anna Maria FISCHER. My questions are: 1. Should I assume that this is my gr gr grandmother? Afterall, she did name two of her daughters Luise and Margaretha. 2. Is there any reason why the month and day of her birth might be off by 7 months? 3. Is there a reason she would use a maiden name other than that of her father? This is my first time posting and any assistance would be appreciated.

Wilma, Thanks for the response. The names are not found in any of the New Orleans Records indexes. In fact I have Theobald's death certificate and it gives NO other information. Pete Thanks for your info. I live ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Ranger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > I am thinking that I gave the wrong info to a person. But it could work > both ways. The Catholic church has most of the records and I have not hear > anything about the records from the New Orleans Library, that and the Church > if he was catholic. The records were shiped from NO, to Baton Rouge, but > when I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago, they had copies of the > Immigrants papers they were to have filled out. MOst people could not read > or write, especially a different language. > > I really don't think the Church would turn loose of their records. I found > the Certific of Marriage, about the same for other uses. Archdiocese of New > Orleans Archives, 1100 Chartre Street, New Orleans< Louisiana, 70116. > They will help you if they can. You can write to them and they will send > you what they need. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:09 PM > Subject: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > > > > Hi, > > > > Searching for a Daoworlt (sometimes written Theobald) FAUST born around > 1815 in Bavaria. Emigrated to the US between 1850-1854 to Louisiana where > he married and died. Anyone with information please help. > > > > Thanks > > > > Pete > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

That is really weird, I have a problem with my husbands Grandfather, If I go will check with you and perhaps can look for mine again. (In the Library). ----- Original Message ----- From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > Wilma, > > Thanks for the response. The names are not found in any of the New Orleans > Records indexes. In fact I have Theobald's death certificate and it gives > NO other information. > > Pete > > Thanks for your info. I live > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma Ranger" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]ootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > > > > I am thinking that I gave the wrong info to a person. But it could work > > both ways. The Catholic church has most of the records and I have not > hear > > anything about the records from the New Orleans Library, that and the > Church > > if he was catholic. The records were shiped from NO, to Baton Rouge, but > > when I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago, they had copies of the > > Immigrants papers they were to have filled out. MOst people could not > read > > or write, especially a different language. > > > > I really don't think the Church would turn loose of their records. I > found > > the Certific of Marriage, about the same for other uses. Archdiocese of > New > > Orleans Archives, 1100 Chartre Street, New Orleans< Louisiana, 70116. > > They will help you if they can. You can write to them and they will send > > you what they need. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:09 PM > > Subject: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Searching for a Daoworlt (sometimes written Theobald) FAUST born around > > 1815 in Bavaria. Emigrated to the US between 1850-1854 to Louisiana where > > he married and died. Anyone with information please help. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Sister or Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe >

Hello again, List: I'm getting a little better with der Duetsch, but this little bit is rather important and I can't quite get it! Among other things, Google translates Anwesan to messuage and I don't know what messuage means either! And what the heck is a "riser yard"? Neither does it help that Steigerhof translates to "back gas paste"! If one of you would please straighten me out, I'd say thank you!! Well, danke, anyway! I am really getting too old for this stuff!! from my co-researcher now, Mani Hertlein: "Kind: 1) Hannß, Bauer in Lentersdorf * ca 1630 in Gresten/Österr † 1684 in Lentersdorf,Kreis Ansbach,Mittelfranken, b in Dietenhofen oo 1/1 1660 in Dietenhofen mit Keller Elisabetha <Keller Jakobi> * ca 1644 in Großhabersdorf † vor 1682 in Lentersdorf oo 2/1 nach 1684 in Dietenhofen mit Kugler Anna 1630 - 1637 am Hintern Hoderberg 1638 - 1650 am Hintern Gasteig übernimmt 1650 den Steigerhof in Hausegg bei Gresten /Österreich vor 1656 1631656 oo (Erbvertrag fol 273) b 1656 in Dietenhofen (Exulant) kauft 1661 das Anwesen Lentersdorf (StAN RA Markt Erlbach Amt Neuhof/Zenn 1661 Rechnung 374)" [Google translation: Only helps a little! oo 2/1 after 1684 in Dietenhofen with Kugler Anna 1630 - 1637 at the back Hoderberg 1638 - 1650 at the back gas paste transfers 1650 the riser yard to Hausegg with Gresten/Austria before 1656 1631656 [16 Mar 1656?] oo (hereditary contract fol 273) b 1656 to Dietenhofen (Exulant) buys to 1661 the messuage Lentersdorf (StAN RA market Erlbach office Neuhof/Zenn 1661 calculation 374)] Ron Klotz-Zellhoefer Wisconsin>Arizona [email protected] http://zelltree.com

Hi, Searching for a Daoworlt (sometimes written Theobald) FAUST born around 1815 in Bavaria. Emigrated to the US between 1850-1854 to Louisiana where he married and died. Anyone with information please help. Thanks Pete

Hi there, I'm looking for information on a Josephine KLUG born about 1826 in Deidersheim, Germany. It looks like she emigrated to the US around 1852 arriving in New Orleans where she later married and died. Anyone with information please contact me. Thanks, Pete

Have you tried the Catholic Church? They were able to give me marriages and other info0 on some of mine. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > Wilma, > > Thanks for the response. The names are not found in any of the New Orleans > Records indexes. In fact I have Theobald's death certificate and it gives > NO other information. > > Pete > > Thanks for your info. I live > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma Ranger" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > > > > I am thinking that I gave the wrong info to a person. But it could work > > both ways. The Catholic church has most of the records and I have not > hear > > anything about the records from the New Orleans Library, that and the > Church > > if he was catholic. The records were shiped from NO, to Baton Rouge, but > > when I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago, they had copies of the > > Immigrants papers they were to have filled out. MOst people could not > read > > or write, especially a different language. > > > > I really don't think the Church would turn loose of their records. I > found > > the Certific of Marriage, about the same for other uses. Archdiocese of > New > > Orleans Archives, 1100 Chartre Street, New Orleans< Louisiana, 70116. > > They will help you if they can. You can write to them and they will send > > you what they need. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:09 PM > > Subject: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Searching for a Daoworlt (sometimes written Theobald) FAUST born around > > 1815 in Bavaria. Emigrated to the US between 1850-1854 to Louisiana where > > he married and died. Anyone with information please help. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Sister or Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe >

My great grandfather was a George Sweiger, born 1824, and came from Bavaria but I have not been able to find out any additional information......He lived in Old Bridge, Middlesex County, New Jersey. Our name has change several times and is now Squires... Karen

Reinhard Hofer did some great research for me in the Bavaria area. He also drove us around that area last November when my daughter and I were on a genealogical research trip. He was very courteous, efficient, and helpful in finding places for us to stay overnight and in locating towns, and, in one case, a home of our ancestor. In one day I felt we became good friends. I highly recommend him! (Reinhard, if you're listening, "Hello" from Rochester, New York.) Valera

Thank you for the data--will give me and my long-lost cousin some places to visit on the web. Sincerely, Carol H. Dye [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marguerite Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Re-HERBERTH > Hello, > I have a map with Motten listed and it is just a few miles southwest of > Gersfeld. Also a short distance south of Fulda and north of Bad Brückanau. > Most maps should have these villages and towns on them. I have a book-map > name Michelin ( it is a Tourist and Motoring Atlas covering Germany). You > can buy it at most any good book store in the United States. Motten is > listed on pg 59 of my book, which I bought last year. > Marguerite > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wildbill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:47 PM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Re-HERBERTH > > > > Good afternoon, > > I apologize for getting back to the list sooner-- > > My gg-grandfather, John (I would assume Johann originally) Herberth was > born Sept. 2, 1814 in Bavaria, Germany--came to America later than any of my > ancesters in 1839--(this data from his obit, which also, for our family > proved the story we had been told about our first Herberth to the U.S.A.) > > He was raised in the Roman Catholic Church, came to America because of > problems with this (we were always told the first-born in this branch of the > family was expected to become a priest--he refused and came to America as a > consequence.) > > I do not know his "trade." My grandfather was an expert carpenter, my dad > an engineer (not train)-- > > We were always told we had cousins down in New Orleans, La.--from data I > got from someone down in La., a Johann Georg Herberth, born about June of > 1834 would be this person--his fathers' name was Johann Balthasar Herberth, > mothers' name Kunigunda Will or Schuhmann. This gentleman shows a "Motten, > Unterfrauhen, Bayern as place of birth--which I cannot find any trace > of--much less if this is even any real place in Germany--but since he sent > this to me, I'm sending it to you-- > > Because of the circumstances of my gg-grandfathers' departure, I don't > know if there was any further contact with the family in Germany--though we > got a letter after V-E Day from Germany indicating they were our family and > asking help--and though we sent a lot of CARE packages to Europe, I do not > know if they went to this specific family or not. > > Sorry for the book--since I have you folks on line--can you tell me the > part of Germany I would look in for a FILLER surname? > > Sincerely, > > Carol H. Dye > > Pleasant View, Co. [email protected] > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > > Sister or Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > > > > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

Hello , I have listed in my emigrant lists 21 emigrants named Herbert(h) in the period of 1837 - 1856, who all came from different villages in the Bavarian district of Unterfranken. Of these 21 names there are only 4 named Johann, who went to America in 1837, 1844, 1852, 1855. These Johann also came from 4 different places. So I would have to check the chruch books of four places to find the right one. best regards Reinhard Hofer new listed emigrants of Unterfranken of 1837 - 1856. new update of emigrant list from entire Bavaria of 1824 - 1914. see my list at URL www.emigration-research.de.vu

Hello, I have a map with Motten listed and it is just a few miles southwest of Gersfeld. Also a short distance south of Fulda and north of Bad Brückanau. Most maps should have these villages and towns on them. I have a book-map name Michelin ( it is a Tourist and Motoring Atlas covering Germany). You can buy it at most any good book store in the United States. Motten is listed on pg 59 of my book, which I bought last year. Marguerite ----- Original Message ----- From: "wildbill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Re-HERBERTH > Good afternoon, > I apologize for getting back to the list sooner-- > My gg-grandfather, John (I would assume Johann originally) Herberth was born Sept. 2, 1814 in Bavaria, Germany--came to America later than any of my ancesters in 1839--(this data from his obit, which also, for our family proved the story we had been told about our first Herberth to the U.S.A.) > He was raised in the Roman Catholic Church, came to America because of problems with this (we were always told the first-born in this branch of the family was expected to become a priest--he refused and came to America as a consequence.) > I do not know his "trade." My grandfather was an expert carpenter, my dad an engineer (not train)-- > We were always told we had cousins down in New Orleans, La.--from data I got from someone down in La., a Johann Georg Herberth, born about June of 1834 would be this person--his fathers' name was Johann Balthasar Herberth, mothers' name Kunigunda Will or Schuhmann. This gentleman shows a "Motten, Unterfrauhen, Bayern as place of birth--which I cannot find any trace of--much less if this is even any real place in Germany--but since he sent this to me, I'm sending it to you-- > Because of the circumstances of my gg-grandfathers' departure, I don't know if there was any further contact with the family in Germany--though we got a letter after V-E Day from Germany indicating they were our family and asking help--and though we sent a lot of CARE packages to Europe, I do not know if they went to this specific family or not. > Sorry for the book--since I have you folks on line--can you tell me the part of Germany I would look in for a FILLER surname? > Sincerely, > Carol H. Dye > Pleasant View, Co. [email protected] > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > >

My Bavarian family came to the US in 1755. They sailed from Hamburg and settled in Loudoun County, VA. They later came to Doddridge County, VA (now WV). This is the area where I grew up. The names of the original emigrants from Germany were John William and Mary Swiger. They had a son, Christopher, who was about 2 when they left Germany. They had many other children after they arrived in Loudoun County, VA. I am a direct descendant of 2 of their children through my great-grandparents. Those 2 children are Jacob and Elizabeth. I'm an 8th generation from John and Mary. I have a dear friend (also distant cousin) who is a direct descendant of Christopher. Please contact me if you have any informatioin about the Swigers (or a spelling like Schweiger, Swaggart, etc.). Also, I would appreciate any information or links to information about Bavaria and its history. Thanks in advance for anything you can add to the information I already have. Janet Swiger Currence Hurricane, WV [email protected] [email protected]

Pete, I can;t help you with the name but there is a very nice hotel there should you ever plan to visit. Take down my e-mail address and I will dig out the name for you I will be out of town until July 10 so wait to respond until then [email protected]

I am thinking that I gave the wrong info to a person. But it could work both ways. The Catholic church has most of the records and I have not hear anything about the records from the New Orleans Library, that and the Church if he was catholic. The records were shiped from NO, to Baton Rouge, but when I was in New Orleans a couple of years ago, they had copies of the Immigrants papers they were to have filled out. MOst people could not read or write, especially a different language. I really don't think the Church would turn loose of their records. I found the Certific of Marriage, about the same for other uses. Archdiocese of New Orleans Archives, 1100 Chartre Street, New Orleans< Louisiana, 70116. They will help you if they can. You can write to them and they will send you what they need. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] FAUST in Bavaria > Hi, > > Searching for a Daoworlt (sometimes written Theobald) FAUST born around 1815 in Bavaria. Emigrated to the US between 1850-1854 to Louisiana where he married and died. Anyone with information please help. > > Thanks > > Pete > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe >

The Catholic church handled much of this information, and the main library in down town New Orleans has a lot of that stuff. The problem with it, is the peoplecould not read or write in many cases and records were not filled out. If they were Catholic, the records would be there. City of New Orleans Health Department, You may have been thur all of that. Just a though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PeterVal1979" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] KLUGS in Deidersheim > Hi there, > > I'm looking for information on a Josephine KLUG born about 1826 in Deidersheim, Germany. It looks like she emigrated to the US around 1852 arriving in New Orleans where she later married and died. Anyone with information please contact me. > > Thanks, > Pete > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

Hi, I checked the German telephone book for the name Filler. There are 228 listed phones in many different towns. You would have to check farther to see if they are in a certain area. dastelefonbuch.de They list first the zip code, then town, then street, and number. Motten is 213.9 miles SW of Berlin. Go to jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker put in the town name for Germany when it comes up you can click on the coordinates and you will get the location on mapquest. Claire in Howell, NJ wildbill wrote: > Good afternoon, > I apologize for getting back to the list sooner-- > My gg-grandfather, John (I would assume Johann originally) Herberth was born Sept. 2,>

Did you check with the Catholic church ? They have all the records there. My husbands family came over 1840, Also the New Orleans Public Library has picked up a bunch of records from Immigrants, but don't know how far back that goes. My husbands families came in 1800's. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "wildbill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Re-HERBERTH > Good afternoon, > I apologize for getting back to the list sooner-- > My gg-grandfather, John (I would assume Johann originally) Herberth was born Sept. 2, 1814 in Bavaria, Germany--came to America later than any of my ancesters in 1839--(this data from his obit, which also, for our family proved the story we had been told about our first Herberth to the U.S.A.) > He was raised in the Roman Catholic Church, came to America because of problems with this (we were always told the first-born in this branch of the family was expected to become a priest--he refused and came to America as a consequence.) > I do not know his "trade." My grandfather was an expert carpenter, my dad an engineer (not train)-- > We were always told we had cousins down in New Orleans, La.--from data I got from someone down in La., a Johann Georg Herberth, born about June of 1834 would be this person--his fathers' name was Johann Balthasar Herberth, mothers' name Kunigunda Will or Schuhmann. This gentleman shows a "Motten, Unterfrauhen, Bayern as place of birth--which I cannot find any trace of--much less if this is even any real place in Germany--but since he sent this to me, I'm sending it to you-- > Because of the circumstances of my gg-grandfathers' departure, I don't know if there was any further contact with the family in Germany--though we got a letter after V-E Day from Germany indicating they were our family and asking help--and though we sent a lot of CARE packages to Europe, I do not know if they went to this specific family or not. > Sorry for the book--since I have you folks on line--can you tell me the part of Germany I would look in for a FILLER surname? > Sincerely, > Carol H. Dye > Pleasant View, Co. [email protected] > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

My 5G-grandmother Clara STAAB/STAUB was born 1761 in the town of Boos near Weinsheim in Prussia. The surname STAAB appears frequently in these towns. LDS Film #530212 In 1785 Clara STAAB along with her husband Franciscus LORENZ move to Glogowatz Hungary. Other STAAB/STAUB/STRAUB families are located there as well. Frank *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/24/2003 at 12:33 PM [email protected] wrote: >GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER STRAUB--He was from Germany and at the village >well >getting water.  A group of soldiers on horseback came to the well and >asked him >something in a foreign language.  He did not understand what they wanted >and >offered them his pitcher for a drink of water.  In anger, one or more >soldiers >ran their sabers through him and he died.  His sons swore revenge and some >or >all became professional soldiers.  It was possibly Prussian Soldiers who >killed gggf Straub according to family lore. > >One son,  retired soldier JOHN BAPTIST STRAUB,  born June 24, 1817, place >unknown, died 1876 or 1877, married KUNIGUNDA STAAB probably between 1858 >and >1860.  She was born about 1836, place unknown, and died 1895 in >Pittsburgh, PA, >USA. > >Gggf Straub had 11 sons and one daughter,  who worked for a prominent >attorney in Frankfurt.  This was the one who paid for her nephew, JOHN >BAPTIST >STRAUB, JR.  to go to school to become a priest.  She died suddenly in her >yard.  >John then left the seminary, a Capuchin monastery, and came to the USA. > >When John Straub came to the USA in 1881 he had a document in German that >read: >RELEASE DOCUMENT---The Kingdom from Bavarian government from Unterfranken >and >Aschaffenburg tells you that the single baker is (learning) apprentice to >baker.  JOHN BAPTIST STRAUB  from Hessenthal born March 15, 1863 from >here. >County government from city of Aschaffenburg. > >I am trying to find info on any of the above, or any of the family of the >other brothers and sister. > >When Kunigunda Staab Straub and her daughter Rosina came to the USA in >1887 >they first went to New York City because they believed they had "rich" >relatives there.  They did not find them. > >Thank you, Rosemarie >[email protected] > > >==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html >to unsubscribe

Good afternoon, I apologize for getting back to the list sooner-- My gg-grandfather, John (I would assume Johann originally) Herberth was born Sept. 2, 1814 in Bavaria, Germany--came to America later than any of my ancesters in 1839--(this data from his obit, which also, for our family proved the story we had been told about our first Herberth to the U.S.A.) He was raised in the Roman Catholic Church, came to America because of problems with this (we were always told the first-born in this branch of the family was expected to become a priest--he refused and came to America as a consequence.) I do not know his "trade." My grandfather was an expert carpenter, my dad an engineer (not train)-- We were always told we had cousins down in New Orleans, La.--from data I got from someone down in La., a Johann Georg Herberth, born about June of 1834 would be this person--his fathers' name was Johann Balthasar Herberth, mothers' name Kunigunda Will or Schuhmann. This gentleman shows a "Motten, Unterfrauhen, Bayern as place of birth--which I cannot find any trace of--much less if this is even any real place in Germany--but since he sent this to me, I'm sending it to you-- Because of the circumstances of my gg-grandfathers' departure, I don't know if there was any further contact with the family in Germany--though we got a letter after V-E Day from Germany indicating they were our family and asking help--and though we sent a lot of CARE packages to Europe, I do not know if they went to this specific family or not. Sorry for the book--since I have you folks on line--can you tell me the part of Germany I would look in for a FILLER surname? Sincerely, Carol H. Dye Pleasant View, Co. [email protected]