Laura, Thank you for your help. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Laura Lamb [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BAVARIA] MANN family from Ecklesheim I have found references to many Martin MANNS in the area of Ecklesheim, but I don't believe this is in the Bavaria area. Laura [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAVARIA] SCHAEFER and MANN Families from Damm, Aschaffenburg My wife's great great great grandparents are Martin MANN, born in 1797, in Aschaffenburg and Catherine SCHAEFER, born March 15, 1813 in Bavaria. They had a daughter, Mary MANN, born October 12, 1844 in Aschaffenburg. Upon researching this family, I can not locate MANN family in ASCHAFFENBURG in the early 1800s. Some have suggested that I consider the area around ASCHAFFENBURG as the ancestral village of the MANN and SCHAEFER families. I checked the IGI and found a reference to a SCHAEFER family from DAMM. I wanted to check with list members who may have some knowledge of DAMM. Is their a Catholic Church there? Do any list members have these surnames in their family trees? I am appreciative of any help. I want to endorse the wonderful work done by list members and moderators. These groups have proved tremendously valuable to my genealogy research. Thank you. Steve Frank ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

Steve, I have but one Johann Mann in my data base (not yet in my list updated), who emigrated from the county of Aschaffenburg in 1854. He could be a relative of your Martin. I can give to you the name of the place. Schaefer is very frequent as well in that area. Sincerely, Reinhard Hofer list of emigrants from Bavaria of 1824 - 1914 with ca. 6500 names. see my list at www.emigration-research.de.vu

Reinhard, Thank you for your reply. Yes, I would like the information on the Johann Mann you mentioned. I appreciate your help. Thank you. Steve Frank -----Original Message----- From: Reinhard Hofer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAVARIA] MANN from Aschaffenburg Steve, I have but one Johann Mann in my data base (not yet in my list updated), who emigrated from the county of Aschaffenburg in 1854. He could be a relative of your Martin. I can give to you the name of the place. Schaefer is very frequent as well in that area. Sincerely, Reinhard Hofer list of emigrants from Bavaria of 1824 - 1914 with ca. 6500 names. see my list at www.emigration-research.de.vu ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

Please check http://www.horlacher.org/germany/bavaria/ Both are independent parishes. As far as I know in Regensburg parish, so the records are probably in the Regensburg diocesan archives now. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAVARIA] Waldthurn Does anyone know what parish Waldthurn or Parkstein would be in? The time period would be before 1857. Thank-you. Kathy Johnson ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

My wife's great great great grandparents are Martin MANN, born in 1797, in Aschaffenburg and Catherine SCHAEFER, born March 15, 1813 in Bavaria. They had a daughter, Mary MANN, born October 12, 1844 in Aschaffenburg. Upon researching this family, I can not locate MANN family in ASCHAFFENBURG in the early 1800s. Some have suggested that I consider the area around ASCHAFFENBURG as the ancestral village of the MANN and SCHAEFER families. I checked the IGI and found a reference to a SCHAEFER family from DAMM. I wanted to check with list members who may have some knowledge of DAMM. Is their a Catholic Church there? Do any list members have these surnames in their family trees? I am appreciative of any help. I want to endorse the wonderful work done by list members and moderators. These groups have proved tremendously valuable to my genealogy research. Thank you. Steve Frank

I have found references to many Martin MANNS in the area of Ecklesheim, but I don't believe this is in the Bavaria area. Laura [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Steve Frank [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAVARIA] SCHAEFER and MANN Families from Damm, Aschaffenburg My wife's great great great grandparents are Martin MANN, born in 1797, in Aschaffenburg and Catherine SCHAEFER, born March 15, 1813 in Bavaria. They had a daughter, Mary MANN, born October 12, 1844 in Aschaffenburg. Upon researching this family, I can not locate MANN family in ASCHAFFENBURG in the early 1800s. Some have suggested that I consider the area around ASCHAFFENBURG as the ancestral village of the MANN and SCHAEFER families. I checked the IGI and found a reference to a SCHAEFER family from DAMM. I wanted to check with list members who may have some knowledge of DAMM. Is their a Catholic Church there? Do any list members have these surnames in their family trees? I am appreciative of any help. I want to endorse the wonderful work done by list members and moderators. These groups have proved tremendously valuable to my genealogy research. Thank you. Steve Frank ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

Does anyone know what parish Waldthurn or Parkstein would be in? The time period would be before 1857. Thank-you. Kathy Johnson

I am researching the Oest family. John George Oest b. abt 1725 arrived in the US from Rotterdam via Cowes on the ship Sandwich in November 30 1850. I have found no documents stating the town he immigrated from. When I look into other Oests born about the same time, they are all from the areas of Bavaria and Wurttemberg. I have checked films of the same towns/areas and found nothing. The Oests coming from the 1800s seem to all be from Northern Germany and Denmark. By 1800 they are all over Germany. I would appreciate any ideas or thoughts on what direction to proceed in to find his place of birth. So far I have found the name as mainly Oest or ACe , Ost, Ase, Effs, Ese, Est. Does anyone know if Oster is a variation of the name?

Gail, I'm sure if an American heard Offenburg or Offenberg, he might spell them the same. It would only hurt in extra expense and/or time to write to both. I would write first to the Catholic Diocesan archive for Offenberg, Bavaria at: Archiv des Bistums Passau Luragogasse 4 D-94032 Passau Germany Give them the name, town, and date of birth of your ancestor. There is a fee, even if they don't find his record, but you seem to have good information now. Good luck, Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail E. Jorgensen To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:10 AM Subject: RE: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern...now Offenburg Norm I am looking at the death certificate, which of course is never 100 % reliable <vbg> and it looks like Offenburg Bavaria....BUT.....if written by someone not from Bavaria, they could have written it wrong. Would it hurt to try looking in the church records if I have the date of birth in Offenberg? Gail

Gail, Now you are cookin'! <g> Offenburg is a well-known town. Problem is - Offenburg is not in Bavaria. It is near Freiburg, state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, in the southwest corner of Germany: Offenburg County : | | +---- Ortenaukreis (Offenburg) {OG} District : | +------- Freiburg State : +--------- Baden-Württemberg ZIP : 77652-77656 Popul : 51759 Locat : 48d28m N 7d57m E But OffenbErg is in Bavaria, northeast of Munich, in the southeastern part of Germany: Offenberg County : | | +---- Deggendorf {DEG} RegBez : | +------- Niederbayern Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 94560 Popul : 2845 Locat : 48d52m N 12d52m E Which do you think it is? Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail E. Jorgensen To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern...now Offenburg I finally found additional information on this town. I have the death certificate for Alois and it is written that he and his father and mother came from Offenburg and they are Catholic. Is this enough to go on to try to locate church records in Germany? Alois was born in 1825 and they came to the US in 1832. I am still a novice at locating my family in Europe and appreciate any advice. Gail Jorgensen -----Original Message----- From: Norm B [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Gail, I believe you read the gravestone correctly. But gravestones are not known for their great accuracy. They are carved many years after the person's birth, written by others, and spelled as best they could remember. When you get home, look over the list of all Bavarian towns that begin with "O" at http://bavariangenealogy.com/bh/orteo.htm . Go down the list to find which is likely yours. You will see only four towns starting with "Oben". They are Obenbrunn G Gunzenhausen Obending G Tann Obenhausen G Buch Obenhub G Reut [The "G Xxxx" stands for 'Gemeinde Xxxx", which is the larger town nearby that provides government services for the first-named village.] A search for "look-alike" town names, using "Obe*burg" as the model, yields only Obergünzburg and Obernburg. Searching with "Obe*berg" gives more, but none close to "Obenberg". The best candidate seems to be: Obernburg (a Main) County : | | +---- Miltenberg {MIL} RegBez : | +------- Unterfranken Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 63785 Popul : 7486 Locat : 49d51m N 9d09m E Norm B. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Norm, I copied the spelling exactly as it was written on the tombstone. Could it be that Obenburg is the German spelling for either Obernburg or Oberburg? And yes he was catholic. Would I then perhaps try church records in the 2 Obernburgs and the 2 Oberburgs? Do you know where I need to go to find out where to search Catholic records? Thanks for writing? Gail ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe

Norm I am looking at the death certificate, which of course is never 100 % reliable <vbg> and it looks like Offenburg Bavaria....BUT.....if written by someone not from Bavaria, they could have written it wrong. Would it hurt to try looking in the church records if I have the date of birth in Offenberg? Gail -----Original Message----- From: Norm B [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern...now Offenburg Gail, Now you are cookin'! <g> Offenburg is a well-known town. Problem is - Offenburg is not in Bavaria. It is near Freiburg, state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, in the southwest corner of Germany: Offenburg County : | | +---- Ortenaukreis (Offenburg) {OG} District : | +------- Freiburg State : +--------- Baden-Württemberg ZIP : 77652-77656 Popul : 51759 Locat : 48d28m N 7d57m E But OffenbErg is in Bavaria, northeast of Munich, in the southeastern part of Germany: Offenberg County : | | +---- Deggendorf {DEG} RegBez : | +------- Niederbayern Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 94560 Popul : 2845 Locat : 48d52m N 12d52m E Which do you think it is? Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail E. Jorgensen To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern...now Offenburg I finally found additional information on this town. I have the death certificate for Alois and it is written that he and his father and mother came from Offenburg and they are Catholic. Is this enough to go on to try to locate church records in Germany? Alois was born in 1825 and they came to the US in 1832. I am still a novice at locating my family in Europe and appreciate any advice. Gail Jorgensen -----Original Message----- From: Norm B [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Gail, I believe you read the gravestone correctly. But gravestones are not known for their great accuracy. They are carved many years after the person's birth, written by others, and spelled as best they could remember. When you get home, look over the list of all Bavarian towns that begin with "O" at http://bavariangenealogy.com/bh/orteo.htm . Go down the list to find which is likely yours. You will see only four towns starting with "Oben". They are Obenbrunn G Gunzenhausen Obending G Tann Obenhausen G Buch Obenhub G Reut [The "G Xxxx" stands for 'Gemeinde Xxxx", which is the larger town nearby that provides government services for the first-named village.] A search for "look-alike" town names, using "Obe*burg" as the model, yields only Obergünzburg and Obernburg. Searching with "Obe*berg" gives more, but none close to "Obenberg". The best candidate seems to be: Obernburg (a Main) County : | | +---- Miltenberg {MIL} RegBez : | +------- Unterfranken Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 63785 Popul : 7486 Locat : 49d51m N 9d09m E Norm B. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Norm, I copied the spelling exactly as it was written on the tombstone. Could it be that Obenburg is the German spelling for either Obernburg or Oberburg? And yes he was catholic. Would I then perhaps try church records in the 2 Obernburgs and the 2 Oberburgs? Do you know where I need to go to find out where to search Catholic records? Thanks for writing? Gail ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html to unsubscribe ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

I finally found additional information on this town. I have the death certificate for Alois and it is written that he and his father and mother came from Offenburg and they are Catholic. Is this enough to go on to try to locate church records in Germany? Alois was born in 1825 and they came to the US in 1832. I am still a novice at locating my family in Europe and appreciate any advice. Gail Jorgensen -----Original Message----- From: Norm B [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Gail, I believe you read the gravestone correctly. But gravestones are not known for their great accuracy. They are carved many years after the person's birth, written by others, and spelled as best they could remember. When you get home, look over the list of all Bavarian towns that begin with "O" at http://bavariangenealogy.com/bh/orteo.htm . Go down the list to find which is likely yours. You will see only four towns starting with "Oben". They are Obenbrunn G Gunzenhausen Obending G Tann Obenhausen G Buch Obenhub G Reut [The "G Xxxx" stands for 'Gemeinde Xxxx", which is the larger town nearby that provides government services for the first-named village.] A search for "look-alike" town names, using "Obe*burg" as the model, yields only Obergünzburg and Obernburg. Searching with "Obe*berg" gives more, but none close to "Obenberg". The best candidate seems to be: Obernburg (a Main) County : | | +---- Miltenberg {MIL} RegBez : | +------- Unterfranken Land : +--------- Bayern ZIP : 63785 Popul : 7486 Locat : 49d51m N 9d09m E Norm B. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: [BAVARIA] Ludwig or Zapp - Obenburg Bayern Norm, I copied the spelling exactly as it was written on the tombstone. Could it be that Obenburg is the German spelling for either Obernburg or Oberburg? And yes he was catholic. Would I then perhaps try church records in the 2 Obernburgs and the 2 Oberburgs? Do you know where I need to go to find out where to search Catholic records? Thanks for writing? Gail ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal

KIRCHER Family Papers, 1879-1858 <A HREF="http://www.chipublib.org/008subject/012special/kir.html">http://www.chipublib.org/008subject/012special/kir.html</A> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: The above KIRCHER Family Papers written by Johannes Gerhard KIRCHER b Vincennes, Knox County, IN, 1857 d Chicago, 1925 and his brother Helmuth Julius KIRCHER b Vincennes, Knox County, IN, 1859 d Chicago, 1940 - in The KIRCHER Family Archives - were first discoverd in Mettmann, Germany in the 1980s time frame while researching this line back to the early 1600s. States mentioned in the papers are Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. It might be of interest to know that Mettmann, Germany is the home of a very large regional bakery owned by KIRCHERs of this line. There is also a street in Mettmann named the Daniel KIRCHER Strasse.  This email was prepared for submission to [email protected]  The following is added for your reading enjoyment:     ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NAPLES DAILY NEWS, August 31, 2003 Ralf Kircher: Storytelling comes easy at a beach fire <A HREF="http://www.naplesnews.com/03/08/neapolitan/d967476a.htm">http://www.naplesnews.com/03/08/neapolitan/d967476a.htm</A> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The KIRCHER/Kerchner/Kirchner/Karchner/Kaerchner/Kercher/ Karcher/Kaercher and Similar German Surnames Y-DNA Chromosome ID Project" is active and on-going.  The KIRCHER DNA Project is a supplement to - not a substitution for  - the living, on-going, non-profit work in progress of the KIRCHER Family Archive's attempt to connect KIRCHERs to KIRCHERs - all KIRCHERs who ever lived - all places, all time frames - to one another.  MALES with the KIRCHER surname are invited to participate. Submission of a DNA sample is simple. Just a swab from the inside of the cheek is all that is required. Your DNA sample has the potential of connecting you with another KIRCHER and/or other KIRCHER lines and taking your particular KIRCHER line back hundreds of years. Know of a KIRCHER anywhere in the world with an email address or someone doing KIRCHER research? Forward their email address to me and I will add them to my Worldwide KIRCHER FAMILY mailing list. Neither me, Tom KIRCHER, nor the "Project Facilitator" have a financial interest in the KIRCHER DNA initiative. We simply want to connect KIRCHERs to KIRCHERs and have brick walls separating KIRCHER lines, want to tear them down, and need KIRCHER DNA. to help accomplish the task. Questions? Contact either me or Tommy KIRCHER at email address [email protected]   Bob Kircher, Fort Myers, Florida

On my GGGrandfather's Declaration of Intent in 1855, he listed Germany as his country and that he was subject to the King of Prussia. On later documents, census, he listed Bavaria as his country. What part of Bavaria would that have been? Or is it even in Bavaria? (His wife was from Bavaria) Thanks for any suggestions! Pat

I am looking for more information on the Saltpeter Rebellion in 1755, and any information I can find on Balthasar Gottstein born 23.10.1724 in Rutte (Austria?), and Ursula Berger born 19.03.1743 in Oberalpfen as daughter of Martin & Anna Flugel. I was told by helpful people on the Banat Rootsweb list that Herrischried is a location of interest in these matters. My maiden name is Kothstein, I was born in Detroit, Michigan, my grandparents came from Setschan in what is now Serbia and Montenegro. They were ethnic Germans and I am searching for earlier records and links to the present ones. If you have any information or know where I can look, please advise. Thank you in advance, Carolyn Roche -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers

Adam and Susanna Sailer Dirnberger brought their family to the US about 1845, at New Orleans, and went upriver to settle at New Hamburg, Scott County, Mo. Adam was born in 1797 and Susanna in 1799. They had six children and were Catholic. Granddaughters indicated that their father had come from Munich. Since Adam and his son Michael were farmers, I wonder whether the family had originally been from metropolitan Munich or, perhaps, from a rural community nearby. In any event, I am searching for the place of origin of Adam Dirnberger and his family. Any assistance would be appreciated regarding this aspect of the search. I have information forward from the time of their settlement in New Hamburg. Duane Lamers [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Hi Judy, thanks for the response. It is certainly possible that your John Schneider born 1838 and my Valentine Schneider born about 1842 could have been brothers. However, I think the name Schneider is very common in Bavaria and Valentin and John/Johan/Johannes are also pretty common as given names. My Valentine Schneider had a son John Valentine Schneider which might add a tiny bit of credence to the possibility of brothers. Do you know where in Bavaria your John was born? Dotty Sprague Cole ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Schneider/Schmidt > This could very possibly be a link into my family. My grandmothers, mother > was a Schneider, her name was Josephine Schneider, born 1872; her father John > Schneider ( also spelled Snyder then changed to Schneider) from Bavaria was born > in 1838 and married Mary Schumacher, born 1851. They are both buried in St. > Peter's Catholic Church in North Ridgeville, Ohio. I am on vacation at this > time, will try to send you more info. Sept. 5th. > > Judy N. > Searching Maringer/Schneider/Schumacher families > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe

This could very possibly be a link into my family. My grandmothers, mother was a Schneider, her name was Josephine Schneider, born 1872; her father John Schneider ( also spelled Snyder then changed to Schneider) from Bavaria was born in 1838 and married Mary Schumacher, born 1851. They are both buried in St. Peter's Catholic Church in North Ridgeville, Ohio. I am on vacation at this time, will try to send you more info. Sept. 5th. Judy N. Searching Maringer/Schneider/Schumacher families

I am looking for anyone who can give me direction to find my husband's elusive great grandfather, Valentin/Valentine Schneider/Snyder, in Bavaria. We have his naturalization papers (he signed Valentin Snyder) and they only say Kingdom of Bavaria--no parish mentioned in any of the records we have found to date on this man. He immigrated in 1864 according to his naturalization papers. We searched the ship arrival records for arrivals to New York City prior to Oct 30 1864. We found a Val Schneider age 20 laborer from Germany, on the SS Louisiana Oct 1864 from Liverpool. We found Valentine Snyder in the 1870 U. S. Census in Bridgewater Township, Somerset, New Jersey. In the 1880 U. S. Census he is living in Manhattan, New York. In 1899 Valentine's son, John Valentine, is in Jersey City, New Jersey where he married Dorothy Langrehr. Dotty Sprague Cole Descendants of Valentine Schneider Generation No. 1 1. VALENTINE2 SCHNEIDER (NN1) was born Bef. 22 June 1842 in Bavaria, Germany. He married KATHERINE SCHMIDT 03 April 1870 in *Raritan, Somerset, NJ, possibly daughter of CONRAD SCHMIDT and CATHERINE NN. She was born Bef. 22 June 1847 in Prussia, Germany, and died Abt. 1889. Children of VALENTINE SCHNEIDER and KATHERINE SCHMIDT are: i. NN3 SCHNEIDER, b. Abt. 1870. ii. NN SCHNEIDER, b. 19 October 1871, *Raritan, Somerset, NJ; d. 05 September 1876, Raritan, Somerset, NJ. iii. NN SCHNEIDER, b. Abt. 1873. 2. iv. JOHN V. SCHNEIDER, b. 05 April 1875, *Raritan, Somerset, NJ; d. 12 January 1935, *502 Wellington Ave., Cranston, Providence, RI. v. NN SCHNEIDER, b. Abt. 1876. vi. MAGGIE SCHNEIDER, b. 1878, NJ. vii. KATHERINE SCHNEIDER, b. 12 February 1880, *Woodstock, Manhattan, NY. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN V.3 SCHNEIDER (VALENTINE2, NN1) was born 05 April 1875 in *Raritan, Somerset, NJ, and died 12 January 1935 in *502 Wellington Ave., Cranston, Providence, RI. He married DOROTHY JOSEPHINE LANGREHR 03 March 1899 in *Jersey City, Hudson, NJ, daughter of HENRY LANGREHR and IDA HEITMANN. She was born 20 June 1880 in *33 Bonner Ave, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ, and died 15 October 1947 in *Cranston, Providence, RI. Children of JOHN SCHNEIDER and DOROTHY LANGREHR are: i. DOROTHY CATHRINE4 SCHNEIDER, b. 13 February 1900, New Jersey; d. 23 June 1952; m. HENRY H. WATERMAN, Abt. 1920; b. Abt. 1899, Massachusetts. ii. EDNA ELIZABETH SCHNEIDER, b. Abt. 1902, New Jersey; d. Abt. 1969, Rhode Island. iii. MARIE FLORENCE SCHNEIDER, b. 17 March 1904, *555 Newark Ave, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ; d. 09 November 1972, *York General Hospital, Rock Hill, York, SC; m. CHARLES NORMAN COLE, 16 June 1928, *Church of the Assension, Cranston, Providence, RI; b. 04 May 1904, *Scituate, Providence, RI; d. 22 April 1960, *Cooley Dickinson Hospital, Northampton, MA. iv. JOHN V. SCHNEIDER, b. 13 February 1907, Rhode Island; d. February 1980, Glens Falls, Warren, NY. v. MARION LOUISE SCHNEIDER, b. 10 June 1911, Rhode Island; d. July 1972; m. WILLIAM BERTOLI, Aft. 12 February 1938; b. of Long Island, NY. vi. GLADYS MILDRED SCHNEIDER, b. 30 September 1916, Rhode Island; d. 01 April 1991, Colorado Springs, CO; m. (1) LARRY SETTLE; m. (2) EDWARD CLARENCE VESS, November 1952, Smyrna, TN; b. 20 February 1920, Buffalo, SC; d. 16 April 1978, Shaw AFB, Sumter, SC.

I would like to know if Oberburg Bayern is anywhere near the Alsatian border?..and could an German "R, "caps or lower case have been interpreted to be a "N". in 1890's...Hope this makes sense.. Florence Lutz