Hi Donna, Most German towns from 1800 still exist today, so any modern detailed map would be good. However, that is tedious and even harder since you appear to have a spelling error. Here's a suggestion for you. Go to the complete alphabetic Bavaria town list at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bavaria/places.html and search for a town or towns spelled similar to "Barrastot ". Alternatively, go to JewishGen town locator at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm , insert Borrastot, select Germany for the country, and Start The Search. Alternative spellings will be suggested, such as Barsadt, Berstadt, Bierstadt, and Borrstadt. Click on the coordinates of any town to see it presented on an interactive map. Other list members have suggested that the initial B may be a V, so you can insert next time the name Varrastot and see where that goes. I searched the online Germany phonebook for the name "Knoffloch". Strangely, there is no one in all of Gemany with that name today. Could this be another spelling error? Could it have been something else, like "Knoblauch"? Many German immigrants had their names changed in America, sometimes accidentally due to spelling errors and sometimes intentionally to avoid things back home. If the correct spelling is not Barrastot, how will you recognize the correct town name if you see it? Do you have other clues regarding the town? A nearby river or forest or city? Norm B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Osborn To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Knoffloch Need old Map Iformation about Barvaria area in early 1800. My family come from Bavaria region about 1800 that the years Ill be tracing them back. Doe anyone know where there is a map for these years. I only have a map that has moder day towns on it. There name was knoffloch and not very many in United States by this name. ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records

My family come from Bavaria region about 1800 that the years Ill be tracing them back. Doe anyone know where there is a map for these years. I only have a map that has moder day towns on it. There name was knoffloch and not very many in United States by this name.

RE: New to this ListIs there a Town that is close to the spelling of Barrastot in Barvania, I dont have a map of this region does anyone know where I can find one. My ancestors would be about in the 1800 in this region before coming to the United States, there name was Knoffloch. Anyone out there working on this name.? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Frank To: Donna Osborn ; Bavaria-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: RE: New to this List Donna, Bavaria is a state of Germany, much like California is a state of the US, except there are many fewer states in Germany than the US. so, they are proportionally larger compared to the whole country. There may be many cities with names like Barrostot, but one that sounds similar in Bavaria is Bauschlott. Others in Germany are: Barstadt, Barstede, Berstadt, Bierstadt, Borrstadt, Bredstedt, Broistedt, and Burstadt. That is providing the first letter really was a b. If you go with other first letters that could be confused with a "b", you can have villages that start with "f" and maybe a "v": with all of the variations seen in "b" villages. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Donna Osborn [mailto:dosborn@pldi.net] Sent: Sat 4/23/2005 12:28 AM To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: New to this List One of my great greatrand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about thses areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a villiage, county, some part od Germany? Donna Osborn

Does anyone know if the New Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) genealogy is anywhere on the inter-net? I have Rutzinger ancestors along the German and Austrian border. Thank You, Judy Hohenauer Woehrle

Dear Sandy, Because I learn so much from the list I always take time to check out the links. I don't know what I did wrong but I could not get through to any of there three mentioned in your letter. What am I doing wrong? (She wailed!} They sounded so interesting. Sincerely Dona O ========================================================================= ========================================================================= ================================================================= On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:07:09 -0600 "SANDY FAIRCHILD" <co_sandy@msn.com> writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pm401kplan@aol.com<mailto:Pm401kplan@aol.com> > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:30 AM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Re: New to the list: Barvaria/Barrastot > > > > In a message dated 4/23/2005 3:00:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com> > writes: > > One of my great great grand fathers was born in Barvaria, > Germany, and the > other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are > at, and > something about these areas. I have looked for year to try and > find Barrastot, > Germany, was it a village, county, some part of Germany? > > > Hi Donna, > According to maps found at Shtetlseeker, there are some > possibilities. I agree that the spelling you have is the likely > culprit. I found two close variations for towns in what was once > Old Bavaria. See map at > http://www.tr62.de/maps/g1.htm<http://www.tr62.de/maps/g1.htm> . > The first is Barstadt, located approx. 8 mi. west of Wiesbaden. The > second is Borrstadt, located approx. 30 mi. south of Wiesbaden. > They are both in that area of Germany shown as Old Bavaria on the > map. > Shtetlseeker also gives a few other variation possibilities, but > these are the closest. You might wish to look at them all at > http://www2.jewishgen.org/shtetlseeker/loctown.htm<http://www2.jewishgen. org/shtetlseeker/loctown.htm> > Good luck! > > Sandy > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records > to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact > mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records<mailto:dsam@sampubc o.com?subject=transcribing_records> > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > >

The pioneer for our Hohmann family in America was Carl Hohmann. He was born in Germany on 3 September 1849 . He was the son of Johanus & Margaret (Haall) Hohmann . He left Germany from the Port of Bremen as a steerage passenger on the S.S. Koenig Wilhelm I and arrived at the Port of New York on 1 November 1873 . His listed occupation was as a shoemaker. Also unclear is when and where Carl married Philippina Steuer. According to her death certificate she was born in Germany abt. 1852. The 1920 census lists 1870 as her year of immigration to the United States. Her parents were Anthony & Magdeline Steuer, both born in Germany. If anyone has connections with this family, I would love to exchange information. I have been unable to find the Hohmann's in Germany. But I do have information about numerous Hohmann's from the Boston area. Thanks, Maryanne Jefferson Boston, MA

Donna, Bavaria is a state of Germany, much like California is a state of the US, except there are many fewer states in Germany than the US. so, they are proportionally larger compared to the whole country. There may be many cities with names like Barrostot, but one that sounds similar in Bavaria is Bauschlott. Others in Germany are: Barstadt, Barstede, Berstadt, Bierstadt, Borrstadt, Bredstedt, Broistedt, and Burstadt. That is providing the first letter really was a b. If you go with other first letters that could be confused with a "b", you can have villages that start with "f" and maybe a "v": with all of the variations seen in "b" villages. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Donna Osborn [mailto:dosborn@pldi.net] Sent: Sat 4/23/2005 12:28 AM To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: New to this List One of my great greatrand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about thses areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a villiage, county, some part od Germany? Donna Osborn

----- Original Message ----- From: Pm401kplan@aol.com<mailto:Pm401kplan@aol.com> To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Re: New to the list: Barvaria/Barrastot In a message dated 4/23/2005 3:00:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com> writes: One of my great great grand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about these areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a village, county, some part of Germany? Hi Donna, According to maps found at Shtetlseeker, there are some possibilities. I agree that the spelling you have is the likely culprit. I found two close variations for towns in what was once Old Bavaria. See map at http://www.tr62.de/maps/g1.htm<http://www.tr62.de/maps/g1.htm> . The first is Barstadt, located approx. 8 mi. west of Wiesbaden. The second is Borrstadt, located approx. 30 mi. south of Wiesbaden. They are both in that area of Germany shown as Old Bavaria on the map. Shtetlseeker also gives a few other variation possibilities, but these are the closest. You might wish to look at them all at http://www2.jewishgen.org/shtetlseeker/loctown.htm<http://www2.jewishgen.org/shtetlseeker/loctown.htm> Good luck! Sandy ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records<mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records>

In a message dated 4/23/2005 3:00:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, BAVARIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: One of my great great grand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about these areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a village, county, some part of Germany? Hi Donna: What was your source for the name Barrastot? I checked several sources, but could not find a town/area, etc. with a similar name. Google has only one reference, which looks like a surname. If your source was an American record, it sounds like a corrupted spelling. Perhaps "stot" = "statt" or "stadt". You didn't mention your ancestor's name, but did you already check IGI to see if he is listed there? You also mentioned "Barvaria" and I assume you mean "Bavaria" in southern Germany? If so, have you checked google for information? The archives of this Bavaria list might also provide you with helpful information. Paul C. Miller

Donna, It might be Bierstadt, Germany. There is a message about it at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/vogel/messages/761.html Try a Google search for Bierstadt and see what else you may find. Good luck, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Osborn" <dosborn@pldi.net> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:28 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] New to this List > One of my great greatrand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about thses areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a villiage, county, some part od Germany? > > > Donna Osborn > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >

One of my great greatrand fathers was born in Barvaria, Germany, and the other Barrastot, Germany. Has anyone know where these places are at, and something about thses areas. I have looked for year to try and find Barrastot, Germany, was it a villiage, county, some part od Germany? Donna Osborn

Hi Listers, I saw a funny sign at CompUSA (computer, etc.) store. In the genealogy aisle, they had the sign: "geneoligy." Thought that was a hoot!! Hope you enjoy it. I told the manager that it was spelled wrong, and he said, "Oh." Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT (a stickler for spelling)

In a message dated 4/19/2005 8:28:41 PM Central Standard Time, dsarnott@execpc.com writes: Haven't had any mail from the list(s) today; seems strange.......... DU BIST NICHT ALLEIN. ICH BIN HIER. UND ANDERE AUCH. PFARRER BISCHOFF VON MILWAUKEE

Hi Listers, Has everyone gone outside to enjoy the nice weather? Here in Wisconsin, it was 80 degrees today; by tomorrow night it will be near 30 degrees! (Welcome to Wisconsin, they say) Haven't had any mail from the list(s) today; seems strange.......... Best Wishes, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT

Looking for informations regarding Joseph Mathias BACHEM born ca.1876, Neudorf, possibly not far from Nuremberg. He became german professor in Toulouse and was killed in august 1914 at the railway station of Auch (Gers), France. Thanks for any information. Claude Grévent.

check your own local bank. My own bank converted some currency to Euros before my trip, but this sort of thing takes several days for the transactions. they would have converted the currency to whatever I needed. tracy reinhardt On 4/10/05, JAMES0319@aol.com <JAMES0319@aol.com> wrote: > Can someone advise me of the address and rates of a reputable firm that will > mail me a bank draft or check in Euros that I can mail to an archive in > Germany?The amount is under 75 Euros.Many thanks, Jim > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > >

I have heard that the ebay site payment method, pay pal works, but that is bank to bank I think. I wonder too what others have done. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JAMES0319@aol.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [BAVARIA] Banks Drafts Or Checks In Euros,Cashable to Europe > Can someone advise me of the address and rates of a reputable firm that will > mail me a bank draft or check in Euros that I can mail to an archive in > Germany?The amount is under 75 Euros.Many thanks, Jim > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records > >

Can someone advise me of the address and rates of a reputable firm that will mail me a bank draft or check in Euros that I can mail to an archive in Germany?The amount is under 75 Euros.Many thanks, Jim

Hi Max, At www.familysearch.org I found a Josephus DAUENHAUER b. 1822, with same parents as Jacob DAUENHAUER, b. 1821. They seem to have been born in "Roemisch-Katholische" (Latin for Roman Catholic), so you know the religion, and the area is given as Dahn, Pfalz, Bayern. Hope this helps, Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Burgdorf" <pharmaxx@msn.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Peter Dauenhauer > Hello Sandy > At the moment I cannot put too much hope in this Dauenhauer. The death certificate that I have says he was 47 when he died in 1866. That would put his birth year at 1819, a difference of about 7 years. But you know how frequently dates, ages, records are askew. I believe this Peter traveled with a Jacob Dauenhauer about 2 years younger. I am planning a trip to New Orleans in May and I hope I can find something to confirm or reject this Peter. > Interesting about the reference to his service in the Militia. That gives me another clue to look into. > Where is home Sandy? I was born in New Orleans but left there in the 1960s and now call St. Louis home. Our son and family lives here and we retired here. > Max > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SANDY FAIRCHILD<mailto:co_sandy@msn.com> > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BAVARIA] Peter Dauenhauer > > > Hello Max, > Might this be the man you are looking for? Found in Passenger and Immigration Lists; New Orleans, 1820-1850: > Name: Peter Dauenhauer > > Arrival Date: June 13, 1848 > > Age: 22 > > Gender: M > > Port of Departure: La Havre > > Place of Origin: Germany > > Ship Name: Brunswick > > Family Number: 116087 > > National Archives Series Number: M259-28 > > Port of Arrival: New Orleans > > This manifest can be ordered from the National Archives: http://www.archives.gov<http://www.archives.gov/<http://www.archives.gov<htt p://www.archives.gov/>> > > Also saw reference to: > DAUENHAUER, P., Pvt. Co A Orleans Fire Regt/ LA Militia. Roll dated New Orleans, La., Nov. 27th, 1861, shows him present on parade Nov. 23, 1861. > If he served in Civil war, those records could also be sought and often give very useful information about place of origin. Hope this helps. > > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Max Burgdorf<mailto:pharmaxx@msn.com<mailto:pharmaxx@msn.com>> > To: BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsw eb.com<mailto:BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:03 PM > Subject: [BAVARIA] Peter Dauenhauer > > > I am searching for information about Peter Joseph Dauenhauer. His death certificate says he was born in Bayern Germany about 1819. He emigrated to New Orleans, La about 1850, plus or minus a few years. I do not have any information re his German roots, only those in New Orleans. > Thanks, Max > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html<http://lists.rootsweb. com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html<http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAV ARIA.html<http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html>> > to unsubscribe > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Have you consider the volunteering of transcribing parish records to be added to WorldGenWeb Archives for others to research? > Contact mailto:dsam@sampubco.com?subject=transcribing_records<mailto:dsam@sampubco.c om?subject=transcribing_records> > > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >

Hi Max, Have you tried searching at www.familysearch.org ? I found quite a few Peters (Petrus) and Josephs (Josephus...from the old Latin) born around 1819. There were 3 cities mentioned. Let me know what kind of results you get. You may already know this about searching, but don't put too much info in the boxes. It may prevent you from getting results. Whatever results you get.....click on each one......sometimes they look the same, but when you look behind the scenes, there may be more info. Good luck! Beth STEINBERG ARNOTT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Burgdorf" <pharmaxx@msn.com> To: <BAVARIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: [BAVARIA] Peter Dauenhauer > I am searching for information about Peter Joseph Dauenhauer. His death certificate says he was born in Bayern Germany about 1819. He emigrated to New Orleans, La about 1850, plus or minus a few years. I do not have any information re his German roots, only those in New Orleans. > Thanks, Max > > > ==== BAVARIA Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIA.html > to unsubscribe > > >