Hi Philip, Very interesting. I've been researching my paternal grandmother's side for awhile and had heard from my father his grandmother spoke German to him when he was little. After some queries I was told that sometimes German would be spoken around the house and English elsewhere. I have something I'm interested in finding out about if possible and that is a small picture holder with my grandmother's picture in it. It's paper like thin cardboard, inside has an oval opening, only mark on it is a swastika, I don't believe my grandmother ever went to Germany, could there have been a photographer who was German and used these photo frames? Any information or thoughts would be appreciated. It looks as though my grandmother was a young teen, so the circa of the frame and photo would be about 1909, and they lived in OK. Thanks, Marilyn Wilson --- Philip Ritter <philr@stanford.edu> wrote: > Bach refers to a stream or brook, and in the > dictionary of German names > (Bahlow, translation 2nd edition 2002), the entry > for Bachmann has "see > Bach." Under Bach it says "from the dwelling on a > stream." Thus Bachmann > (the modern German spelling) or Bachman would > suggest 'one who lives by a > stream' or 'brook person.' I believe the Baughman > spelling came about as > an attempt to render the German pronunciation into > English spelling. The > au (as in caught) being close to the sound of the > German a and the gh and > attempt to get at the German -ch which is kind of > like an h but in the > upper back of the throat like a g. Interestingly > some Bachmanns from the > same family (the Richterswil, Canton Zurich branch > of the Bachmanns) > retained the Bachman spelling (Samuel-born 1738-who > went to TN, Jacob-b. > 1759- who went to NY and whose son the Rev John > Bachman settled in SC, as > well as most who remained in the Lehigh/Northampton > area) while others > switched to Baughman (most who went to Ohio > including my ancestors and > Henry Baughman-b. 1711-who settled in VA). Later > generations have > sometimes modified the pronunciation to match the > spelling and then changed > the spelling again. Thus one branch of the TN > Samuel Bachman's descendants > go by Bofman. > > Hope this helps. > > > At 07:17 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: > >I am searching for any information re. the meaning > of the name Baughman. Can > >anyone out there help me at all? I greatly > appreciate it. > > > >Rebecca Baughman > > > > > >==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > > ----------------- > > Need to post long-term query? > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.baughman > > or choose from many other options > at > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/b/a/BAUGHMAN/ > > ----------------- > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is a discussion area for anyone > who has an interest in genealogy or > history > related to the BAUGHMAN family > The custodian of this List is James > Shuman > BAUGHMAN-admin@rootsweb.com > ----------------- > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Where in Oklahoma?? Joe Baughman Wichita, KS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Wilson" <passier49@yahoo.com> To: <BAUGHMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BAUGHMAN] onomastics of Baughman and my grandmother Baughman > Hi Philip, Very interesting. I've been researching my > paternal grandmother's side for awhile and had heard > from my father his grandmother spoke German to him > when he was little. After some queries I was told that > sometimes German would be spoken around the house and > English elsewhere. I have something I'm interested in > finding out about if possible and that is a small > picture holder with my grandmother's picture in it. > It's paper like thin cardboard, inside has an oval > opening, only mark on it is a swastika, I don't > believe my grandmother ever went to Germany, could > there have been a photographer who was German and used > these photo frames? Any information or thoughts would > be appreciated. It looks as though my grandmother was > a young teen, so the circa of the frame and photo > would be about 1909, and they lived in OK. Thanks, > Marilyn Wilson > > --- Philip Ritter <philr@stanford.edu> wrote: > > > Bach refers to a stream or brook, and in the > > dictionary of German names > > (Bahlow, translation 2nd edition 2002), the entry > > for Bachmann has "see > > Bach." Under Bach it says "from the dwelling on a > > stream." Thus Bachmann > > (the modern German spelling) or Bachman would > > suggest 'one who lives by a > > stream' or 'brook person.' I believe the Baughman > > spelling came about as > > an attempt to render the German pronunciation into > > English spelling. The > > au (as in caught) being close to the sound of the > > German a and the gh and > > attempt to get at the German -ch which is kind of > > like an h but in the > > upper back of the throat like a g. Interestingly > > some Bachmanns from the > > same family (the Richterswil, Canton Zurich branch > > of the Bachmanns) > > retained the Bachman spelling (Samuel-born 1738-who > > went to TN, Jacob-b. > > 1759- who went to NY and whose son the Rev John > > Bachman settled in SC, as > > well as most who remained in the Lehigh/Northampton > > area) while others > > switched to Baughman (most who went to Ohio > > including my ancestors and > > Henry Baughman-b. 1711-who settled in VA). Later > > generations have > > sometimes modified the pronunciation to match the > > spelling and then changed > > the spelling again. Thus one branch of the TN > > Samuel Bachman's descendants > > go by Bofman. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > At 07:17 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: > > >I am searching for any information re. the meaning > > of the name Baughman. Can > > >anyone out there help me at all? I greatly > > appreciate it. > > > > > >Rebecca Baughman > > > > > > > > >==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > > > ----------------- > > > Need to post long-term query? > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.baughman > > > or choose from many other options > > at > > > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/b/a/BAUGHMAN/ > > > ----------------- > > > > > >============================== > > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > > your family and the > > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > > the last 12 months. > > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > > ----------------- > > This is a discussion area for anyone > > who has an interest in genealogy or > > history > > related to the BAUGHMAN family > > The custodian of this List is James > > Shuman > > BAUGHMAN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ----------------- > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > > your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > > last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > Need to post long-term query? > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.baughman > or choose from many other options at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/b/a/BAUGHMAN/ > ----------------- > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >