Hi Joe, My dad was born in OK City, 1915, on the 1920 census his grandparents William and Lillie Drake Baughman were living in the 3rd ward, OK City. My ggrandparents William and Lillie were both born in MO. First son Claude W. born MO 1888, LaVerne A.(Vern) born KS 1892, daughter Jessie M. born MO 1890, Nina E. 1894 OK, Freda M. (my grandmother) born 1896 OK. As far as I know most of my Baughman relations stayed on in OK. My grandmother Freda died in OK City in 1959, her closest sister was called Aunt Sis or Sis, she was married to Henry Seik a large German man. My dad was an only child and his parents Harry B. Wilson and Freda Baughman Wilson divorced early and dad was raised until a teen by his Baughman grandparents, this is why I know they spoke German. Marilyn --- Joe Baughman <jbaughman@cox.net> wrote: > Where in Oklahoma?? > > Joe Baughman > Wichita, KS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Wilson" <passier49@yahoo.com> > To: <BAUGHMAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:53 PM > Subject: Re: [BAUGHMAN] onomastics of Baughman and > my grandmother Baughman > > > > Hi Philip, Very interesting. I've been researching > my > > paternal grandmother's side for awhile and had > heard > > from my father his grandmother spoke German to him > > when he was little. After some queries I was told > that > > sometimes German would be spoken around the house > and > > English elsewhere. I have something I'm interested > in > > finding out about if possible and that is a small > > picture holder with my grandmother's picture in > it. > > It's paper like thin cardboard, inside has an oval > > opening, only mark on it is a swastika, I don't > > believe my grandmother ever went to Germany, could > > there have been a photographer who was German and > used > > these photo frames? Any information or thoughts > would > > be appreciated. It looks as though my grandmother > was > > a young teen, so the circa of the frame and photo > > would be about 1909, and they lived in OK. Thanks, > > Marilyn Wilson > > > > --- Philip Ritter <philr@stanford.edu> wrote: > > > > > Bach refers to a stream or brook, and in the > > > dictionary of German names > > > (Bahlow, translation 2nd edition 2002), the > entry > > > for Bachmann has "see > > > Bach." Under Bach it says "from the dwelling on > a > > > stream." Thus Bachmann > > > (the modern German spelling) or Bachman would > > > suggest 'one who lives by a > > > stream' or 'brook person.' I believe the > Baughman > > > spelling came about as > > > an attempt to render the German pronunciation > into > > > English spelling. The > > > au (as in caught) being close to the sound of > the > > > German a and the gh and > > > attempt to get at the German -ch which is kind > of > > > like an h but in the > > > upper back of the throat like a g. > Interestingly > > > some Bachmanns from the > > > same family (the Richterswil, Canton Zurich > branch > > > of the Bachmanns) > > > retained the Bachman spelling (Samuel-born > 1738-who > > > went to TN, Jacob-b. > > > 1759- who went to NY and whose son the Rev John > > > Bachman settled in SC, as > > > well as most who remained in the > Lehigh/Northampton > > > area) while others > > > switched to Baughman (most who went to Ohio > > > including my ancestors and > > > Henry Baughman-b. 1711-who settled in VA). > Later > > > generations have > > > sometimes modified the pronunciation to match > the > > > spelling and then changed > > > the spelling again. Thus one branch of the TN > > > Samuel Bachman's descendants > > > go by Bofman. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > At 07:17 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: > > > >I am searching for any information re. the > meaning > > > of the name Baughman. Can > > > >anyone out there help me at all? I greatly > > > appreciate it. > > > > > > > >Rebecca Baughman > > > > > > > > > > > >==== BAUGHMAN Mailing List ==== > > > > ----------------- > > > > Need to post long-term > query? > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.baughman > > > > or choose from many other > options > > > at > > > > > > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/b/a/BAUGHMAN/ > > > > ----------------- > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories > about > > > your family and the > > > >areas they lived. 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