I need help with a lost Bates, I am looking for Albert( William?) Bates Born 4/7/1913, I know that a lot of you are looking back in the 1500-1700's but we are stuck on Albert Bates. Here goes my, GGgrandfather George Bates (B.about 1884)Married Annie Dickens around 1911-1912. She was born in Whiteplains N.Y. George and Annie had two children that we know of. George E Bates Sr/Jr.? (b. 9/08/1908) in Greenwich Conn. Albert came next. George E. Bates had two children with his first wife Mary Danko, they are George E.Bates Jr./III ? and Maryann (Curtin) Bates. The reason for the question marks in the names is that we have a picture of my Grandfather that has written on the back "George E. Bates Jr." now as far as we knew he was George E. Bates Sr. that's how he signed his name. But his fathers name was George E.Bates so that would make him a Jr. and my father George E. Bates would be the Third, But my birth certificate says George E. Bates III. And my son's says George E. Bates IV. One of the reasons we are looking for Albert is the obvious reason he's a Bates, the other is it is rumored that He received the Family Bible when his parents died (date unknown to me) it was also rumored that he had children and they lived around Ossining ! N.Y. My grandmother (George E. Bates Sr./Jr.?'s second wife Midge is still living and she says that my Grandfather never talked about his brother Albert I think there was some problems between them. Years ago I asked my Grandfather about our roots he said we were from England, My father on the other hand (who doesn't know anything about his Uncle Albert) says we came from Ireland. I have been looking for a while and keep hitting dead ends.I found an Albert Bates that is around the time my great uncle was around but he was a member of Machine Gun Kelley's Mob( that would be a reason not to talk about him) or maybe he is related to the New York Nightclub owner "Pegleg" Bates. As he was black, and we are Caucasian that might be another reason that my Grandfather might not talk about Albert. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks George E. Bates III