In an attempt to encourage some interest in the English Bates, here is a brief descendancy report of my research to date - I'd be very pleased to communicate with anyone with similar English interests: 1. James BATES; m. Ann Daniel 19 February 1846 at St Martin, Worcester, Worcestershire, England. The only known child of James BATES and Ann Daniel was: + 2. i. Thomas, b. 8 May 1849 at 18 Vinegar Row, Clap Gate, Worcester, Worcestershire, England; m. Mary Ann Jones. Generation Two 2. Thomas BATES; b. 8 May 1849 at 18 Vinegar Row, Clap Gate, Worcester, Worcestershire, England; m. Mary Ann Jones, daughter of Daniel Jones, 19 February 1871 at Parish Church of St Clement, Worcester, Worcestershire, England; d. before 30 January 1922. Mary Ann Jones was born circa 1852 at Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales. The nine children of Thomas BATES and Mary Ann Jones were as follows: + 3. i. Lill, b. at Worcestershire, England; m. Bert (--?--). 4. ii. Lucy; b. circa 1871 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. 5. iii. Edith; b. circa 1873 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. 6. iv. Thomas; b. circa 1876 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. 7. v. Rose Ann Elizabeth; b. 24 January 1878 at Spring Gardens, Blockhouse, Worcester, Worcestershire, England. 8. vi. William; b. 1880 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. 9. vii. George Frederick; b. circa 1883 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. + 10. viii. Agnes, b. 27 January 1886 at 11 Court Friar St., [St Helen USD], Worcester, Worcestershire, England; m. Timothy Joseph Stanford; m. Isaac Albert Spiers. 11. ix. Charlotte Rosanna; b. circa 1888 at Worcester, Worcestershire, England. Cheers from NZ