Hi Bob, I had Clement Bates b. 1/22/1594/95 the son of Thomas Bates b. 1569 Kent England. I believe I got that from a book of Bates descendants that went to Cummington, Hampshire Co., MA, but will have to look for that. Am wondering what source you have for James 1614 being his father. Not doubting you, just want to make sure I get it right. Then for Joseph Bates Sr. b. abt 1630, I have that he came to America in 1635 at the age of 5, but I also have that he was born 9/28/1628 Biddenden, Kent, England. Don't know my source for that, either. His wife was born 1642, but they were married 1/9/1658 in Hingham, rather than 1648 as you have (I imagine that was a typo, as that would make her age 6 at time of marriage). I descend from Caleb Bates 1666 and Mary Lane. Do you want that line of descent? I am hoping that the FTM update will allow me to put in source info for each piece of info, so am working on gathering up those sources for everything new I enter and going back to look for everything I've already got in there. Thanks, Sue [email protected] wrote: > Subject: Some Descendants of John Bates > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:38:47 +0000 > From: "Bob Jenkins" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I am intested in continuing this ancestural line especially the maternal > branches. Any addition is welcome. > Direct Descendants of John Bates > ................ 7 Clement Bates b: January 22, 1593/94 in Lydd, Kent, > England d: September 17, 1671 in Hingham, > Massachusetts > .................... +Anna Dualrumple (Dalrymple) b: 1595 in England m: > 1616 in England d: October 1, 1669 in Hingham, > Massachusetts > ................... 8 Joseph Bates, Sr. b: Abt. 1630 in England d: > April 30, 1706 in Hingham, Plymouth, > Massachusetts > ....................... +Hesther (Esther) Hilliard (Hilyard) b: January > 25, 1641/42 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts m: > January 9, 1647/48 in Hingham (2nd Prec), > Massachusetts d: June 3, 1709 in Hingham (2nd > Prec), Massachusetts > ...................... 9 Esther Bates b: August 29, 1663 in Hingham, > Plymouth, Massachusetts > ...................... 9 Caleb Bates b: March 30, 1666 in Hingham, > Plymouth, Massachusetts d: August 15, 1747 in > Hingham, Plymouth, Massachusetts