Ruth, Thank you for sharing your intriguing posting with us. I am a descendant of Clement Bates and of many others in Hingham. I have a question to ask you. From a member of Huguenot-L, I learned that Bates was Huguenot (without providing the first name). Was our Clement Bates of Huguenot descent? I would be interested in learning more about Clement Bates's ancestors in that I understand that Hertfordshire and Kent in England were reserved by the King for Huguenots to settle in when expelled or fleeing from France. Jean - On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:28:40 -0700 Rose Adams <rosebud@cctrap.com> writes: >No Cheryl: Jean: >Thanks for the gedcom, I am giving it some serious attention. By the >way >ladies, I live in Ca. are either of you from the area where these >records are kept? >As far as I can tell, mine are from Connecticut and Massachusetts, >beyond that I just don't know. >My second great grandfather was Joseph Bates Noble b. 14 Jan 1810 in >Egremont, Berkshire, MA. His father was Ezekiel Noble b. 24 Aug 1787 >Sheffield, Bristol, MA., his mother was Theodocia Bates b. 7 Aug 1789, >Egremont, Berkshsire, MA. She was the daughter of Joseph Bates b. 23 >Feb 1755, Middletown, CT. He married Sarah Ann Deming of Wethersfield, >CT. Joseph Bate's father was Joseph Bates b. 9 Apr 1732 in Middletown, >Middlesex, CT. His mother was Mary Foster b. 5 Mar 1734, Middletown, >Middlesex, Ct. I have him as the son of Clement Bates and Mary >Horton. >These are the notes from Savage: > >!admitted freeman in 1636. > >Here BATES, BENJAMIN, Hingham, youngest s. of Clement that he brot. >from > >Eng. was freem. 1672, and d. of smallpox 28 Nov. 1678. He was a lieut. >[[138]] >had w. Jane, nam. in his will, made two weeks bef. his d. giv. est. to >her >and the ch. of his br. hav. as we are therefore led to infer, no ch. >of >his >own. BENJAMIN, Hingham, s. of James of the same, m. 10 Oct. 1682, >Mary Leavitt, d. perhaps of John; prob. rem. after d. of his f. to >Huntington, >L. I., but many yrs. bef. was a soldier in Dec. 1675 of Johnson's >comp. >CLEMENT, Hingham, a tailor, said to be from Co. Herts, but more prob. >from Kent, came in the Elizabeth, 1635, aged 40, with w. Ann, 40, and >ch. >James, 14; Clement, 12; Rachel], 8; Joseph, 5; Benjamin, 2; and two >serv. >and here had Samuel, bapt. 24 Mar. 1639; and Hopestill, Sept. 1644; >was freem. 3 Mar. 1636, and d. 17 Sept. 1671. CLEMENT, Hingham, >s. of the preced. brot. from Eng. by his f. d. bef. 1669, leav. wid. >Ruth, >wh. in a petitn. to the governm. of the Col. Apr. 1676, set forth, >that >she >had two s. Clement and Solomon, serv. with Capt. Lothrop when "the >flower of Essex" was slain, that Clement was k. by the Ind. soon after >at >Westfield, wherefore she pray. that Solomon might be disch. EDWARD, >Boston 1633, came with Thomas Leverett, as his apprent. in the >Griffin, >freem. 9 Mar. 1637, was disarm. as a favorer of Wheelwright, had John, >bapt. 23 Jan. 1642. *EDWARD, Weymouth, freem. 13 Mar. 1639, had >Prudence, b. 11 June that yr. and Increase, 28 Dec. 1641, was rep. >1639-41 >and 60, as well as ch. Elder. His d. Susanna, m. 16 Dec. 1658, >Nathaniel > >Blanchard. EDWARD, Weymouth, perhaps s. of the preced. by w. >Elizabeth had Susanna, b. 6 Feb. 1680; Edward, 3 Feb. 1683; John, >16 Jan. 1686; and Mary, 11 Dec. 1697. FRANCIS, Topsfield 1661, m. >Ann Oldham, d. of Sarah O. and gr.d. of Richard North, had Ebenezer, >b. 20 Jan. 1662; but my dilig. inquir. has not learn. what Oldham m. >Richard North's d. GEORGE, Boston, a thatcher, freem. 25 May 1636, >liv. at Muddy riv. now Brookline, went to Exeter, but came back. >Belkn. >I. 20. INCREASE, Weymouth, s. of Edward the first. by w. Mary had >Edward, b. 31 Jan. 1682; Ebenezer, 1 Mar. 1686; and Ann, 23 Aug. >1695. JAMES, Dorchester, husbandman, came in the Elizabeth, 1635, >aged 53; with w. Alice, 52; and ch. Lydia, 20; Mary, 17; Margaret, >12; and James, 9; freem. 7 Dec. 1636, selectman next yr. and after; >rep. for Hingham, 1641. He was perhaps br. of Clement, and d. 1655. >His wid. d. 14 Aug. 1657. Lydia m. Roger Williams of D.; Mary m. >Hopestill Foster; and Margaret m. Christopher Gibson. He had a s. >Richard, wh. liv. at a hamlet, call. the town of Lid in Co. Kent, >whence, >prob. the fam. came. JAMES, Hingham, eldest s. prob. of Clement of the >same, m. 19 Apr. 1642, or 3, Ruth Lyford, that may be conject. as d. >of >Rev. John, left by him when he went to Virg. had John, b. 1649; Ruth, >Sept. >1651; at Scituate, where he liv. some yrs. but ret. to H. had Joseph, >bapt. 20 >Nov. 1653; Benjamin, bapt. 15 July 1655; Solomon, 23 Aug. 1657; >perhaps >others; and d. 5 July 1689. He petitn. the Gov. and Assist. for relief >on acco. >of two s. prest into the serv. against the Ind. His wid. d. 9 Mar. >foll. > >Deane thot. him s. of James of Dorchester, but so do not I. His d. >Rachel m. 8 May 1684, Caleb Lincoln. >[[139]] >*JAMES, Haddam 1667, prob. s. of James of Dorchester, where he >m. Ann, d. of the first Henry Withington, and soon after went home, >and came again soon, perhaps went again to Eng. and came back soon, >may have first been at Huntington, L. I. d. bef. 1692, when of his ch. >at >Haddam were Samuel, bapt. at Dorchester, 18 June 1648; James, b. Oct. >1666; John; Hannah; Margaret, bapt. at D. 19 June 1664; Mary, bapt 11 >Mar. 1666; and Elizabeth He was rep. for H. 1670, and often after. >Mary >m. 16 Aug. 1685, William Hough of Saybrook. The late Hon. Isaac C. >Bates, U. S. senator, was prob. a descend. by one of these who rem. to >Durham, whose s. rem. to Granville, Mass. JOHN, Weymouth, by w. >Susan had Edward, b. 10 Dec. 1655; was perhaps of Chelmsford 1666, >freem. 1682. See Allen, Hist. of C. 169. JOHN, Haddam, perhaps br. >of James of the same, was of Stamford 1669, had John, b. 8 June 1678; >and Solomon Feb. 1680. My conject. is confirm. by auth. of D. Williams >Patterson. JOHN, New London 1677, had bapt. there John, 4 May >1679; Solomon, 1 Aug. 1680; and Sarah, 27 Aug. 1682; but, no more >being, ment. of him, I think he may be the same as the preced. easily >rem. >from town to town. JOSEPH, Hingham, s. of Clement, b. in Eng. m. 28 >Jan. > >1658, Esther Hilliard, perhaps d. of Anthony of the same, had Joseph, >Caleb, >Hannah, Joshua, Aug. 1671; Bathsheba, Clement, 21 Sept. 1676; Eleazer, >and >perhaps others. He was freem. 1672. JOSEPH, Hingham, s. of the preced. >m. >3 Jan. 1684, Mary, d. of the first Samuel Lincoln. ROBERT, >Wethersfield >1640, >rem. to Stamford, there d. 11 June 1675, leav. s. John; d. Mary >Ambler, >w. of Abraham, and s.-in-law John Cross, ment. in his will of that >date. > >He was one of the first purch. of S. 30 Oct. 1640. ROBERT, Lynn, had >John, wh. d. 5 Mar. 1672; Rebecca, b. 29 Aug. 1673; and Sarah, 16 >July 1676. SAMUEL, Hingham, youngest s. of Clement the first, m. >22 Feb. 1667, Lydia, d. of Thomas Lapham of Scituate, had Lydia, b. >2 Sept. 1669; Sarah, 23 Dec. 1673; a d. b. 23 Apr. 1676; ano. 17 Apr. >1678; >Samuel, Mar. 1680; and David, 20 Feb. 1683; was freem. 1672. SAMUEL, >Saybrook, m. 2 May 1676, Mary, d. of Robert Chapman of the same, had >Samuel, b. 15 Apr. foll. d. at 8 mos. ; Ann, 19 Sept. 1678; Silence, >27 >July 1680; Samuel, again, 8 Nov. 1682; James, 16 Dec. 1685; Robert, >22 Dec. 1686; Stephen, 1 June 1689; Ephraim, 29 May 1692; Daniel, >18 Aug. 1697; and d. 28 Dec. 1699. > >I got this off of Savage Dictionary of Early Settlers: >My Clement has a different date and I am puzzled about this, can you >enlighten me? I may be missing some generations. >Rose > > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.