Hi List, I'm still wandering around trying to deterimine which Isaac is the correct father for Winifred Bates who married Thomas Warren about 1812 & lived in Rutherford Co. TN. My choices are narrowed down to: #1 being the Isaac who was born about 1735 in Albermarle VA & died in Franklin County, VA. This Isaac's ancestry is Isaac, John, George, John, John, all in VA. (Very well-documented family, copies of the wills available, House of Burgess & all that.) #2 being the Isaac Bates born about 1750 in Pittsylvania County, VA, applied for his Revolutionary War Pension in Buncombe County, NC (Rev War Pension S328, Colonel Armstrong's Regiment), moved to Smith County, TN & continued receiving his pension there & died there. Wayne was kind enough to correspond with me & to send me a back issue of The Bates Booster, which has an article pointing to Isaac #2 as the father, the basis being a letter written by Arthur Perkins (my late cousin) of Moapa, NV. Arthur was a certified genealogist & I would normally be perfectly satisfied using him as my source, however, the family members who inherited most of Arthurs documents & copies of all his genealogy records, are now showing Isaac #1 as Winifred's father. This makes me wonder if somewhere along the way, Arthur found something else that made him change his mind. I can't find any family member who ever listed Isaac #2 as Winifred's father. Anyway, I have written Arthur's son to try & find the actual document that seems to be at the root of all this. In the meantime, I'm wondering if anyone has documentation that will help prove this one way or the other. I wandered around the BFOOV website but couldn't find anyone who had posted anything on Isaac #2. Any help would be MOST appreciated, Kathy