James BAITS (BATES) married Elizabeth TUBB in Rutherford Co, NC 19 JULY 1782. Seven (7) identified children from a total of 12 or 14: Robert Bates, b.1783 Greenville SC -- died in the 1830s m. Mahala Goodman James Bates Mary "Polly" Bates, b.1790/1794 SC m. Wm. Chandler William Bates, b.c1790 SC -- d. c1825 Hickman Co TN m. Elizabeth Green Jeremiah Bates Isaiah (Josiah) Bates, b.1799 SC -- d. c1860s TN Jesse Bates m. Margaret ?? Samuel O Bates, b. 23 Aug 1807 Maury Co TN -- d. June 1879 Hickman Co TN m. Sarah/or/Jennie Anderson James BAITS/BATES & wife, Elizabeth TUBB came to Tennessee in c1804. At least one of their children, Samuel, was born there. James BAITS/BATES does not appear on any 1810 census, but Elizabeth is shown in TN with children still living at home. Widowed. Would like to have information on any of the above people. (I do have TUBB/TUBBS information. Elizabeth b 1754 Orange Co NC is dau of William, grand-daughter of John b. c1700 England/Wales. Can anyone go further back than that?) Would also appreciate hearing from anyone descended from John Bates who died approx 1821 Greenville SC (will). My James is thought to be his brother. Would also like to hear from BATES researchers/descendents of that family living in Rutherford NC. We believe our James BAITS/BATES originally came from the New England States, possibly Massachusetts, with a stop off (length?) in Virginia. Parents unknown, siblings ???? not sure. Would appreciate any help at all. Marlene Bates Johnson -- Sand Springs/Tulsa OK [email protected]