Evelyn and Eva, I have meant to jump in on the subject of the Bates Family of Old Virginia , whose reunion some of us attended in June. My trip continued into Pennsylvania, and I am still dealing with all the information and papers I gathered. The B. F. of O. VA is in articles in the last two Bates Bulletins, and the president is Michael Teague, whose e-mail address is: << MTeague275@aol.com >> The family's home page is at: << http://members.aol.com/Lramrtn/batesva.html >> The speaker at that reunion was Genevieve Skinner, a descendant of Elisha Bates, and one of them could perhaps put you in touch with her. She spoke about Elisha as having very strong principles and opinions, but I cannot rmember specifically about his being "disowned." For anyone researching Virginia Bates ancestors, it cost me only $5.00 to join this organization of nice people. They have a librarian, too. Jane