Would it be possible to automatically insert the word BATES in the subject line, preceding the subject? Most other mailing lists seem to do this. It is very confusing when the subject doesn't specify BATES. I belong to a number of genealogy lists, and I like to be able to see by the subject line which list a message belongs to. Otherwise, sometimes the subject sounds like a spam, and is apt to get deleted. I'd send this request to the list owner, but I seem to have lost that information. Thanks, Fran Anderson

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I just spent two days uploading a new surnames list The main family id Petro and the related familes I have posted the names because it has the Deford/Carroll/Ellison/Cooper/Petro line ties whish in some cases make more multi-related cousins. I've looked the list over and it has many related families listed I need to look very close at these names as they will fill many wholes in my records. Thanks to all that helped put this data together, Please if you know someone with a interest in Genealogy ask them to visit "Rootsweb.com" <http://rootsweb.com> and see if there is a list they might like to join,, My lists are listed in the Sig Block of this message. <http://lhnet.simplenet.com/petro/surnames.htm> Connie there is a Woodcock listed "DIPS" you may find something?? Carol Music this is your line of Ellison - ---------------------------------- Thanks & have a nice day, Howard E. DeFord Oroville, WA 98844-1382 FAX : 209-315-8073 <ICQ# 39036165> <hdeford@bigfoot.com> <http://www.icehouse.net/hdeford/> <http://millennium.fortunecity.com/lincoln/534> <http://lhnet.simplenet.com/hed/> <LALONDE-L@rootsweb.com> list-owner <LAMBERTON-L@rootsweb.com> list-owner <RANGER-L@rootsweb.com> list-owner <DEFORD-L@rootsweb.com> list-owner <petro-s@genweb.net> list-owner <lervold-s@genweb.net> list-owner <finneseth-s@genweb.net> list-owner

A short time ago my sister in law found a picture from the funeral of T.R. Bates 26 June 1949. From records I have he died in Oregon. Thomas was my husband's great Uncle. The following is what info we have on this family. Would like to hear from anyone connected to this family. Thanks Judy THOMAS RIDLEY BATES Birth: 19 Jul 1861 Death: 26 Jun 1949 Oregon Father: WILLISTON BATES (b 31 Aug 1830) Mother: NANCY TENNESSEE NOBLIN (b abt 1840) Wife: ELIZABETH "Lizzie" DAWSON Birth: abt 1867 Death: 6 Jun 1949 Children 1 F Dora BATES Birth: 29 Nov 1887 Death: 4 Apr 1954 Spouse: John MOSKOP (m 3 Mar 1907) 2 F Lula BATES Birth: 4 Aug 1889 Spouse: Frank SEAMONS (m 25 Oct 1909) 3 F Mary Ellen BATES Birth: 3 Feb 1891 Death: 29 May 1912 Spouse: Otis LEATHERS (m 17 Jul 1911) 4 M Raymond Archer BATES Birth: 16 Jan 1893 Death: 1 Jan 1955 Spouse: Naomia WILSON (m 16 Aug 1914) 5 F Maud BATES Birth: 24 Oct 1894 Spouse: Emmitt Milton HUFSTEDLER (m 1 Oct 1918) 6 F Mettie BATES Birth: 1 Oct 1899 Spouse: George PUCKETT (m 24 Oct 1920) 7 F Pearl BATES Birth: 9 Aug 1902 Spouse: Wesley WARE (m 22 Jan 1920) 8 M Thomas Edward BATES Birth: 14 Oct 1907 Spouse: Etho KIRK Husband: Emmitt Milton HUFSTEDLER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Birth: 6 Mar 1890 Randolph Co, AR Death: 12 Nov 1957 Newport, Jackson Co, AR Burial: 14 Nov 1957 Randolph Co, AR Marriage: 2 Oct 1917 Randolph Co, AR Father: James Elihu 'Doc Jim' HUFSTEDLER (b 29 Jan 1865) Mother: Emma LEATHERS (b 16 Jan 1865) Other spouse: Maud BATES (m 1 Oct 1918) Wife: Maude 'Maudie' BATES - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Birth: 24 Oct 1895 Randolph Co, AR Death: 20 Feb 1984 Pocahontas, Randolph Co, AR Children 1 M Glen Sherril HUFSTEDLER Birth: 1 Nov 1929 Randolph Co, AR Death: 28 Jan 1984 Poplar Bluff, Butler Co, MO Burial: 30 Jan 1984 Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Mary Ann LEONARD Spouse: Dora WALKER 2 M Dale HUFSTEDLER Birth: 12 Mar 1934 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Betty BLACKWELL 3 F Maxine HUFSTEDLER Birth: 21 May 1920 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Samuel Luther MATTHEWS Spouse: Harry ABBOTT (m 13 Dec 1947) Spouse: Stanley ROOK 4 F Billie Jean HUFSTEDLER Birth: 20 Mar 1925 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Charley STEEL Spouse: Taft SMITH 5 M Randolph Hufstedler HUFSTEDLER Birth: 13 Sep 1916 Death: 30 Dec 1918 Burial: 31 Dec 1918 Randolph Co, AR 6 M Leamon Lovelle HUFSTEDLER Birth: 5 Jun 1918 Death: 29 Sep 1918 Burial: 30 Sep 1918 Randolph Co, AR Wallis White Branches http://www.pionet.net/~jwhite Aitkin County Minnesota GenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnaitkin Aitkin County Mail List MNAITKIN-L-request@rootsweb.com Pipestone County Minnesota GenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnpipest Pipestone County Mail List MNPIPEST-L-request@rootsweb.com

Does any one recognize this family. When my sister in law was going through some papers after her mother had passed away she found some pictures of a funeral, written on the back was Thomas Ridley Bates, June 26, 1949. We believe it is the family listed below, if you have a connection to this family we sure would like to hear from you. Thanks Judy THOMAS RIDLEY BATES Birth: 19 Jul 1861 Death: 26 Jun 1949 Oregon Father: WILLISTON BATES (b 31 Aug 1830) Mother: NANCY TENNESSEE NOBLIN (b abt 1840) Wife: ELIZABETH "Lizzie" DAWSON Birth: abt 1867 Death: 6 Jun 1949 Children 1 F Dora BATES Birth: 29 Nov 1887 Death: 4 Apr 1954 Spouse: John MOSKOP (m 3 Mar 1907) 2 F Lula BATES Birth: 4 Aug 1889 Spouse: Frank SEAMONS (m 25 Oct 1909) 3 F Mary Ellen BATES Birth: 3 Feb 1891 Death: 29 May 1912 Spouse: Otis LEATHERS (m 17 Jul 1911) 4 M Raymond Archer BATES Birth: 16 Jan 1893 Death: 1 Jan 1955 Spouse: Naomia WILSON (m 16 Aug 1914) 5 F Maud BATES Birth: 24 Oct 1894 Spouse: Emmitt Milton HUFSTEDLER (m 1 Oct 1918) 6 F Mettie BATES Birth: 1 Oct 1899 Spouse: George PUCKETT (m 24 Oct 1920) 7 F Pearl BATES Birth: 9 Aug 1902 Spouse: Wesley WARE (m 22 Jan 1920) 8 M Thomas Edward BATES Birth: 14 Oct 1907 Spouse: Etho KIRK Husband: Emmitt Milton HUFSTEDLER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Birth: 6 Mar 1890 Randolph Co, AR Death: 12 Nov 1957 Newport, Jackson Co, AR Burial: 14 Nov 1957 Randolph Co, AR Marriage: 2 Oct 1917 Randolph Co, AR Father: James Elihu 'Doc Jim' HUFSTEDLER (b 29 Jan 1865) Mother: Emma LEATHERS (b 16 Jan 1865) Other spouse: Maud BATES (m 1 Oct 1918) Wife: Maude 'Maudie' BATES - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Birth: 24 Oct 1895 Randolph Co, AR Death: 20 Feb 1984 Pocahontas, Randolph Co, AR Children 1 M Glen Sherril HUFSTEDLER Birth: 1 Nov 1929 Randolph Co, AR Death: 28 Jan 1984 Poplar Bluff, Butler Co, MO Burial: 30 Jan 1984 Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Mary Ann LEONARD Spouse: Dora WALKER 2 M Dale HUFSTEDLER Birth: 12 Mar 1934 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Betty BLACKWELL 3 F Maxine HUFSTEDLER Birth: 21 May 1920 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Samuel Luther MATTHEWS Spouse: Harry ABBOTT (m 13 Dec 1947) Spouse: Stanley ROOK 4 F Billie Jean HUFSTEDLER Birth: 20 Mar 1925 Noland, Randolph Co, AR Spouse: Charley STEEL Spouse: Taft SMITH 5 M Randolph Hufstedler HUFSTEDLER Birth: 13 Sep 1916 Death: 30 Dec 1918 Burial: 31 Dec 1918 Randolph Co, AR 6 M Leamon Lovelle HUFSTEDLER Birth: 5 Jun 1918 Death: 29 Sep 1918 Burial: 30 Sep 1918 Randolph Co, AR Wallis White Branches http://www.pionet.net/~jwhite Aitkin County Minnesota GenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnaitkin Aitkin County Mail List MNAITKIN-L-request@rootsweb.com Pipestone County Minnesota GenWeb Pages http:www.rootsweb.com/~mnpipest Pipestone County Mail List MNPIPEST-L-request@rootsweb.com

Greetings, All, Seeking exchange on my great grandfather's family. He was a German, BETZ/ BEITZ, however was found from ca 1830 census on, as BATES - on census & agricultural schedules, Civil War records, and burial and estate records. Moses BETZ/ BEITZ/ BATES was born ca 1816-19, Jenners twp., Somerset Co PA s/o Christian & Christiana BETZ/ BEITZ; d. ca 2 Sept 1875, Millcreek twp, Williams Co OH; mar. 1836, prob Bath twp, Summit Co OH, to ANNA PEACH d/o Jacob & Rachael (BRELSFORD) PEACH. I'm most interested in finding leads to their sons during and after the Civil War period. Children - all born in Summit and Williams Cos. OH: i. Christopher S. BATES 1838-1904, single, no military service ii. John BATES 1843-1864, died of wounds in Civil War iii. Oscar BATES b ca 1845 (in Civil War) iv. Irvin/Ervin BATES 1846-1930 (in Civil War) v. Mahala BATES 1848-1930 m. Samuel KINSEY vi. Anna Elizabeth/Lisa BATES 1852-, m. Mitchell HADICKS vii. Huldah Susan BATES 1854-1892, m. David Snyder PICKING viii. Samuel BATES b ca 1856- ix. Mary Alice BATES b. ca 1858, m. Albert BAKER x. Francis Leroy BATES b. ca 1860- xi. William H. BATES b ca 1862 Thank you, Caral MECHLING BENNETT cmechlingb@aol.com

Looking forANY help on this BATES family. Edward BATES jr. ----Marr: 16 Apr 1834 PL: Pembroke, Plymouth, Mass., Wife: Delia MC FARLEN BR: Sept 1818 Only known son was: Andrew Otis BATES BR: 18 Aug 1849 PL: Pembroke, Plymouth, Mass.. Died: 07 Aug 1887 PL: Rockland, Plymouth, Mass. Wife: Ruth Hannah BLACKADAR(lots of infor., on Ruth(resently found). Andrew & Ruth daughter: Minnie Horton BATES BR: 23 Jan 1871 PL: Pembroke Plymouth, Mass., Died: 25 May 1924 PL: Boston,Suffolk, Mass.. Minnie's husband was: Phillip Franklin STEVENS Marr: 28 Feb 1890 PL: Rockland, Plymouth, Mass.. ANY INFORMAION on any of these persons will be greatly accepted. Will share all I have. e-mail at: smithnh@mediaone.net Thank-you, Mrs. Smith

Hello, searching for my Bates roots in Avoca, Quebec. I know that the Young's & Bates tended to have lots and lots of children. (10-14 & one great-aunt reportedly had 18 children - can you imagine that!!) Anyways, all these kiddies makes it very hard to sort through the Bates. Any information regarding my report below will be greatly welcome. I also have more information on the next generations. Thanks for your time. Stacey Descendants of Isabella Bates Generation No. 1 1. ISABELLA1 BATES She married DAVID ALEXANDER YOUNG, son of YOUNG and ?. Notes for ISABELLA BATES: Isabella & David are believed to be from Scottish & Irish Descent. They lived in Quebec & had at least 11 children Children of ISABELLA BATES and DAVID YOUNG are: i. ALEC2 YOUNG, m. MARY RURKE. More About MARY RURKE: Fact 1: she was Florence Rurke's sister (Shoddies wife) 2. ii. EMMA YOUNG, b. Quebec. iii. EVAN YOUNG. 3. iv. GEORGE D YOUNG, b. Quebec. 4. v. NORMAN YOUNG, b. Quebec; d. August 28. 5. vi. SHODDIE YOUNG, b. Quebec. vii. SISSIE YOUNG, b. Quebec. viii. ELIZABETH YOUNG, b. August 17, 1889, Pointe Oshane, Quebec; d. 1984; m. BONFIELD, Hoquiam, Washington. 6. ix. RHODA ERMINA YOUNG, b. December 02, 1892, Avoca Quebec; d. October 17, 1977, Vancouver, British Columbia. x. ADA YOUNG, b. 1899, Quebec; d. October 27, 1988; m. TRINEER. Generation No. 2 2. EMMA2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. She married MAKALE in Mcbride, British Columbia. Children of EMMA YOUNG and MAKALE are: i. RUFAS3 MAKALE. ii. MARGARET MAKALE. 3. GEORGE D2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. Children of GEORGE D YOUNG are: i. ISABEL3 YOUNG, m. JACK DALRYMPLE, Avonlea. More About ISABEL YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, Living in Avonlea, Sask ii. ETHEL YOUNG, m. DAVE EVANS. More About ETHEL YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, Living in Westbank, BC 7. iii. EVAN SHERWOOD YOUNG, b. August 08, 1916; d. January 24, 1982, Westbank, British Columbia. 4. NORMAN2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec, and died August 28. He married PAULINE. More About NORMAN YOUNG: Fact 1: drown August 28, he was 33 yrs old Children of NORMAN YOUNG and PAULINE are: i. WALTER3 YOUNG. ii. BASIL YOUNG. iii. ELANOR YOUNG. iv. ELVA YOUNG. 5. SHODDIE2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. He married FLORENCE RUBENA RURKE. Children of SHODDIE YOUNG and FLORENCE RURKE are: 8. i. BERNIC3 YOUNG. ii. RUTH YOUNG. iii. STANLEY YOUNG. iv. JUNA YOUNG, m. ? MCCLOUD. v. IREANE YOUNG, m. ? MUCUTCHEN. vi. WHYMAN YOUNG. vii. HERMAN YOUNG. viii. CLAYTON YOUNG. ix. LILA YOUNG, m. ? TOMOL. 9. x. TWYLA YOUNG, b. 1918, Avoca, Quebec. 6. RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born December 02, 1892 in Avoca Quebec, and died October 17, 1977 in Vancouver, British Columbia. She married CONRAD CARL MOLLER February 10, 1914 in Revelstoke, British Columbia, son of ERIC MOLLER and MARIA ANDERSSON. He was born October 04, 1885 in Carney, Michigan, USA, and died November 26, 1946 in Vancouver, British Columbia. Children of RHODA YOUNG and CONRAD MOLLER are: i. TOOTSIE3 MOLLER, b. 1916; d. 1917. 10. ii. ARNOLD MOLLER, b. August 09, 1918, Vancouver, British Columbia. 11. iii. NORMA SELMA MOLLER, b. May 04, 1919, Vancouver, British Columbia. 12. iv. ELANOR ALMA MOLLER, b. November 21, 1923; d. December 01, 1996, Oklahoma City, USA. 13. v. MILTON CARL MOLLER, b. February 15, 1926, Vancouver, British Columbia; d. September 02, 1992. vi. RAYMOND CHRISTIEN MOLLER, b. March 19, 1929, Vancouver, British Columbia. 14. vii. VERNA AUDREY MOLLER, b. June 23, 1934, Vancouver, British Columbia; d. September 24, 1965, Los Angeles, USA. Generation No. 3 7. EVAN SHERWOOD3 YOUNG (GEORGE D2, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born August 08, 1916, and died January 24, 1982 in Westbank, British Columbia. He married PEARL MOTON 1942. She was born February 09, 1923. Children of EVAN YOUNG and PEARL MOTON are: 15. i. CAROL4 YOUNG, b. April 19, 1945. 16. ii. SANDRA YOUNG, b. August 26, 1949. 17. iii. EVAN GEORGE YOUNG, b. October 18, 1950. 18. iv. JAMES A. YOUNG, b. January 25, 1952. v. JOHN YOUNG, b. March 01, 1955; m. PATTY. More About JOHN YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, living inLangley, BC vi. RAYMOND YOUNG, b. March 14, 1958. More About RAYMOND YOUNG: Fact 1: 1882, Living in Langley, BC vii. THOMAS YOUNG, b. October 05, 1958; m. CATHY. More About THOMAS YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, living in Calgary, BC. 8. BERNIC3 YOUNG (SHODDIE2, ISABELLA1 BATES) She married ? KELLY. Children of BERNIC YOUNG and ? KELLY are: i. MALE4 KELLY. ii. FEMALE KELLY. 9. TWYLA3 YOUNG (SHODDIE2, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born 1918 in Avoca, Quebec. She married NELSON YOUNG, son of HARRY YOUNG and MARGARET KELLY. He was born 1916, and died 1971 in Avoca, Quebec. More About TWYLA YOUNG: Fact 1: plot # in Quebec is 202 - same as her husband Nelson More About NELSON YOUNG: Fact 1: plot # in Quebec is 202 - same as his wife Twyla Children of TWYLA YOUNG and NELSON YOUNG are: i. GRACE4 YOUNG. ii. DIANNE YOUNG. iii. RUBENA YOUNG. 10. ARNOLD3 MOLLER (RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born August 09, 1918 in Vancouver, British Columbia. He married GLADIS SHAW. She was born February 04, 1916. Child of ARNOLD MOLLER and GLADIS SHAW is: 19. i. ROBERT ARNOLD4 MOLLER, b. July 17, 1941. 11. NORMA SELMA3 MOLLER (RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born May 04, 1919 in Vancouver, British Columbia. She married ROY JACOB SMITH November 12, 1946 in Vancouver, British Columbia, son of GUSTAV SMITH and CARRIE HOEHN. He was born November 18, 1914 in St. Bosswell's, Saskatchewan, and died June 09, 1983 in Vancouver, British Columbia. More About ROY JACOB SMITH: Fact 1: Name was changed on his Birth Cert. from Reinhold Jakob Schmidt. Fact 2: November 08, 1943, enlists as Private in Canadian Army Fact 4: Service # - K 543481 Children of NORMA MOLLER and ROY SMITH are: 20. i. NORRIS RAYMOND4 SMITH, b. May 05, 1947, Vancouver, British Columbia. 21. ii. ROGER ROY SMITH, b. July 20, 1949, Vancouver, British Columbia. 12. ELANOR ALMA3 MOLLER (RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born November 21, 1923, and died December 01, 1996 in Oklahoma City, USA. She married (1) JOHN GREGORY. He was born May 05, 1923. She married (2) BILL BLEAKNEY. Child of ELANOR MOLLER and JOHN GREGORY is: i. STEVEN4 GREGORY, b. August 11, 1954. 13. MILTON CARL3 MOLLER (RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born February 15, 1926 in Vancouver, British Columbia, and died September 02, 1992. He married PHILLIS TAYLOR. She was born December 03, 1930. Children of MILTON MOLLER and PHILLIS TAYLOR are: 22. i. CONRAD VERNON4 MOLLER, b. December 29, 1950. 23. ii. LOUISE MOLLER, b. December 08, 1952. 24. iii. ANITA CHRISTINE MOLLER, b. November 08, 1955. 25. iv. CHRISTOPHER PAUL MOLLER, b. July 03, 1957. 14. VERNA AUDREY3 MOLLER (RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG, ISABELLA1 BATES) was born June 23, 1934 in Vancouver, British Columbia, and died September 24, 1965 in Los Angeles, USA. She married LENARD ?. Child of VERNA MOLLER and LENARD ? is: i. MICHAEL4 ?, b. March 13, 1960. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello, I really need some help with my Bates. They tended to have 10-14 children & this makes it very hard to track people down. Anyone having any information please email me. Will provide more information of following generations. I was told that they came from a town in Ireland. Thanks for your time. Stacey Descendants of Isabella Bates Generation No. 1 1. ISABELLA1 BATES She married DAVID ALEXANDER YOUNG, son of YOUNG and ?. Notes for ISABELLA BATES: Isabella & David are believed to be from Scottish & Irish Descent. They lived in Quebec & had at least 11 children Children of ISABELLA BATES and DAVID YOUNG are: i. ALEC2 YOUNG, m. MARY RURKE. More About MARY RURKE: Fact 1: she was Florence Rurke's sister (Shoddies wife) 2. ii. EMMA YOUNG, b. Quebec. iii. EVAN YOUNG. 3. iv. GEORGE D YOUNG, b. Quebec. 4. v. NORMAN YOUNG, b. Quebec; d. August 28. 5. vi. SHODDIE YOUNG, b. Quebec. vii. SISSIE YOUNG, b. Quebec. viii. ELIZABETH YOUNG, b. August 17, 1889, Pointe Oshane, Quebec; d. 1984; m. BONFIELD, Hoquiam, Washington. 6. ix. RHODA ERMINA YOUNG, b. December 02, 1892, Avoca Quebec; d. October 17, 1977, Vancouver, British Columbia. x. ADA YOUNG, b. 1899, Quebec; d. October 27, 1988; m. TRINEER. Generation No. 2 2. EMMA2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. She married MAKALE in Mcbride, British Columbia. Children of EMMA YOUNG and MAKALE are: i. RUFAS3 MAKALE. ii. MARGARET MAKALE. 3. GEORGE D2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. Children of GEORGE D YOUNG are: i. ISABEL3 YOUNG, m. JACK DALRYMPLE, Avonlea. More About ISABEL YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, Living in Avonlea, Sask ii. ETHEL YOUNG, m. DAVE EVANS. More About ETHEL YOUNG: Fact 1: 1982, Living in Westbank, BC 7. iii. EVAN SHERWOOD YOUNG, b. August 08, 1916; d. January 24, 1982, Westbank, British Columbia. 4. NORMAN2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec, and died August 28. He married PAULINE. More About NORMAN YOUNG: Fact 1: drown August 28, he was 33 yrs old Children of NORMAN YOUNG and PAULINE are: i. WALTER3 YOUNG. ii. BASIL YOUNG. iii. ELANOR YOUNG. iv. ELVA YOUNG. 5. SHODDIE2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born in Quebec. He married FLORENCE RUBENA RURKE. Children of SHODDIE YOUNG and FLORENCE RURKE are: 8. i. BERNIC3 YOUNG. ii. RUTH YOUNG. iii. STANLEY YOUNG. iv. JUNA YOUNG, m. ? MCCLOUD. v. IREANE YOUNG, m. ? MUCUTCHEN. vi. WHYMAN YOUNG. vii. HERMAN YOUNG. viii. CLAYTON YOUNG. ix. LILA YOUNG, m. ? TOMOL. 9. x. TWYLA YOUNG, b. 1918, Avoca, Quebec. 6. RHODA ERMINA2 YOUNG (ISABELLA1 BATES) was born December 02, 1892 in Avoca Quebec, and died October 17, 1977 in Vancouver, British Columbia. She married CONRAD CARL MOLLER February 10, 1914 in Revelstoke, British Columbia, son of ERIC MOLLER and MARIA ANDERSSON. He was born October 04, 1885 in Carney, Michigan, USA, and died November 26, 1946 in Vancouver, British Columbia. Children of RHODA YOUNG and CONRAD MOLLER are: i. TOOTSIE3 MOLLER, b. 1916; d. 1917. 10. ii. ARNOLD MOLLER, b. August 09, 1918, Vancouver, British Columbia. 11. iii. NORMA SELMA MOLLER, b. May 04, 1919, Vancouver, British Columbia. 12. iv. ELANOR ALMA MOLLER, b. November 21, 1923; d. December 01, 1996, Oklahoma City, USA. 13. v. MILTON CARL MOLLER, b. February 15, 1926, Vancouver, British Columbia; d. September 02, 1992. vi. RAYMOND CHRISTIEN MOLLER, b. March 19, 1929, Vancouver, British Columbia. 14. vii. VERNA AUDREY MOLLER, b. June 23, 1934, Vancouver, British Columbia; d. September 24, 1965, Los Angeles, USA. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hey all! I'm looking for info on my Agustus Bates, born in the New York Territory. Here's what I know. He was born Jun 29, 1765 and died June 6, 1842. He married Elizabeth Blair (Blow) Aug 18, 1792. They moved to Canada because of all of the unrest going on in the War for Independence. He had a son named David Bates, who was born in Canada and married an Elizabeth Brant (believed to be the daughter of Chief Joseph Brant of the Mohawks. They had a child named Agustus who married an Anna Cook. If anyone has ANY info, please let me know. As for what I know, Agustus is descended from one of 3 cousins who sailed from England. One was a Bates, another a Davenport, and I'm not sure about the other. Thanks for all your help! -Josh Bobbitt kewltoy@earthlink.net ICQ#24675665

Hi, All-- Recently my computer crashed and I lost all my data, including my address book. If I have had any correspondence with any one of you in the past, please send me your e-mail address. Like another famous--but not so unambitious--failure from the past, I feel as though I've been exiled to Corsica. walt boswell walter.boswell@cwix.com

I found out today that the one Creed F Bates living in Chattanooga,Tn un 1909, the lawyer, lived many years afterwards. I found that Creed's brother Charles S Bates was working for the circulation dept of the Chattanooga Times at the time that his father had an obit in 1904 and in 1909 when the Creed F Bates obit appears. Probably got a call about Creed's death and made an obit. Richard Malatzky Baseball Historian and Finder of Missing Players since 1976

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Old-To: JACKSON-L@rootsweb.com, WILDE-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <7WgmjB.A.tYF.L3SL3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: JACKSON-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: JACKSON-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <JACKSON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2161 X-Loop: JACKSON-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: JACKSON-L-request@rootsweb.com This is sad! Sent to me by another list and wanted to let everyone know that used grave markers are being auctioned at eBay! << > Thank you again, Carlene. Below is the information on the grave markers >> you have alerted us about. Have sent an e-mail to eBay, and to each >> seller, reminding them that these items were once in place on someone's >> grave, and that each state has laws forbidding vandalism to graves. I >> encourage all on this list to respond to eBay and/or to the sellers as >> you feel led. >> Annette Elam Wezel >> >> #95765135 is a GAR grave marker, marked "County Commissioners, West >> Chester, PA." The seller refers to its having been 'used.' The name of >> the seller is "1sterling," and the item is located in New Jersey. The >> seller's e-mail address is: sterlingcenter@world.att.net >> #95765620 is also a GAR grave marker, in a different style, marked with >> the number "15" in the design of the front, with the back marked only >> "AMERICA," which may refer to the foundry. Again, the seller refers to >> 'signs of use.' Same location, same seller, same address. >> >> #96301772 is a Korean War veterans grave marker. The seller is located in >> West Tennessee. The seller's e-mail address is: hbuild36@aol.com >> >> #98328212 is a "World War Veterans Marker." Possibly World War I, but I >> am not sure of that. Located in Michigan. Sellers address is >> capcornr@klondyke.net >> >> #96742252 is World War II Veterans grave marker. Advertised as an "eagle >> grave marker presented by the County Commissioners." Back marked >> "Philadelphia, PA," but that may again refer to a foundry. Located in >> Penndel, PA. Sellers address is tmaw@netcarrier.com >> >> On Sun, 2 May 1999 00:42:56 -0500 "Carlene M. Wojahn" >> <cwojahn@internetwis.com> writes: >> >Since it was pointed out to me about a month ago that grave markers >> >are sold on the ebay auction site., I sporadically check it out. >> >These auctions are now in process, and this greatly concerns me, for >> >doesn't this encourage theft of these markers ? Where did the person >> >selling these markers get them from ? >> >Carlene M. Wojahn >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765135 >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765620 >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96301772 >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=98328212 >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96742252 > >> Dawn Townsend LISTS THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE....... 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Looking for the parents of: > >Joseph William BATES b 26 Oct 1849 LA\NY\TX???; d 5 May 1921 OR; > >Wife Sarah Rosina LATHAM b 3/11/1855 IL; d 2/11/1930 OR; m 13 Oct 1876 OR > >Children: >Amy Bates b 7 Dec 1877; d Oct 1972 >Ora Bates b Mar 1881 >Edna Bates b 8 July 1883; d Jul 1975 >Donald Bates b Dec 1887 >Elbert Bates b 8 Dec 1888 >William Joseph Bates b 26 Sep 1889; >d 27 Feb 1975 >Edwin Bates 3 Jul 1894; d May 1973 >Sarah V. Bates >two children died in infancy. > >Joseph was in the the Bannock Indian War. All records report his parents as >unknown. However, it is believed that he had a brother (name unknown) who >was a >doctor in Alabama. It is believed their father was in the Union army and died >at Andersonville prison. Joseph's wife Sarah Rosina had one arm and was school >teacher in Harney Co. Oregon. > >Excerpts from "Harney County, Ore And Its Range Land," Brimlow, George >Francis: > >Page 66: ".....A term of one quarter was taught by Sarah Latham, who received >$100 from subscription. ...." > >Pages 77, 78: ".....Pete French kept an account book at his headquarter which >he designated 'Steins Mountain.' The one for 1876-1879..... On the first page >of this bookkeeping journal, in 1876, the owner writes in his indubitable >fashion as to his assets: ..... Joe Bates owes me 25.00......" > >Page 189: .....the "Herald"..... >Under the hed, "Journalism from Dame Rumor," the same paper said on May 9, >1888: >Last Monday as Mrs. Bates and her son, a lad about ten years old, were driving >across a bridge over Silvies River near Z. L. Thomas' place, the horses shied, >turning the wagon >over into the stream. The boy was caught under the wagon, and being unable to >extricate himself, was drowned. Later information is, that both Mr. and Mrs. >Bates were in the wagon, and that the bridge broke down, but as the child was >drowned in either case it does not make much difference." > > >The Grant County Oregon Fair is celebrating it's 90th year with the theme of A >family affair! As part of the celebration they would like to highlight and >emphasize families who have been in the county for 90 years or more. If you >intend to have your family's history highlighted or need the dates and would >like to attend please call the fair office at 541-575-1900. > >If anyone has any information on Joseph William Bates or Sarah Rosina Latham >families please contact: > >http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnorus/stultz.html > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/u/Glenna-M-Stultz/ > > >Glenna Stultz gstultz@eoni.com >"Bill Lewis" lewis536@worldnet.att.net >

Looking for the parents of: > >Joseph William BATES b 26 Oct 1849 LA\NY\TX???; d 5 May 1921 OR; > >Wife Sarah Rosina LATHAM b 3/11/1855 IL; d 2/11/1930 OR; m 13 Oct 1876 OR > >Children: >Amy Bates b 7 Dec 1877; d Oct 1972 >Ora Bates b Mar 1881 >Edna Bates b 8 July 1883; d Jul 1975 >Donald Bates b Dec 1887 >Elbert Bates b 8 Dec 1888 >William Joseph Bates b 26 Sep 1889; >d 27 Feb 1975 >Edwin Bates 3 Jul 1894; d May 1973 >Sarah V. Bates >two children died in infancy. > >Joseph was in the the Bannock Indian War. All records report his parents as >unknown. However, it is believed that he had a brother (name unknown) who >was a >doctor in Alabama. It is believed their father was in the Union army and died >at Andersonville prison. Joseph's wife Sarah Rosina had one arm and was school >teacher in Harney Co. Oregon. > >Excerpts from "Harney County, Ore And Its Range Land," Brimlow, George >Francis: > >Page 66: ".....A term of one quarter was taught by Sarah Latham, who received >$100 from subscription. ...." > >Pages 77, 78: ".....Pete French kept an account book at his headquarter which >he designated 'Steins Mountain.' The one for 1876-1879..... On the first page >of this bookkeeping journal, in 1876, the owner writes in his indubitable >fashion as to his assets: ..... Joe Bates owes me 25.00......" > >Page 189: .....the "Herald"..... >Under the hed, "Journalism from Dame Rumor," the same paper said on May 9, >1888: >Last Monday as Mrs. Bates and her son, a lad about ten years old, were driving >across a bridge over Silvies River near Z. L. Thomas' place, the horses shied, >turning the wagon >over into the stream. The boy was caught under the wagon, and being unable to >extricate himself, was drowned. Later information is, that both Mr. and Mrs. >Bates were in the wagon, and that the bridge broke down, but as the child was >drowned in either case it does not make much difference." > > >The Grant County Oregon Fair is celebrating it's 90th year with the theme of A >family affair! As part of the celebration they would like to highlight and >emphasize families who have been in the county for 90 years or more. If you >intend to have your family's history highlighted or need the dates and would >like to attend please call the fair office at 541-575-1900. > >If anyone has any information on Joseph William Bates or Sarah Rosina Latham >families please contact: > >http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnorus/stultz.html > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/u/Glenna-M-Stultz/ > > >Glenna Stultz gstultz@eoni.com >"Bill Lewis" lewis536@worldnet.att.net >

Looking for the parents of: Joseph William BATES b 26 Oct 1849 LA\NY\TX???; d 5 May 1921 OR; Wife Sarah Rosina LATHAM b 3/11/1855 IL; d 2/11/1930 OR; m 13 Oct 1876 OR Children: Amy Bates b 7 Dec 1877; d Oct 1972 Ora Bates b Mar 1881 Edna Bates b 8 July 1883; d Jul 1975 Donald Bates b Dec 1887 Elbert Bates b 8 Dec 1888 William Joseph Bates b 26 Sep 1889; d 27 Feb 1975 Edwin Bates 3 Jul 1894; d May 1973 Sarah V. Bates two children died in infancy. Joseph was in the the Bannock Indian War. All records report his parents as unknown. However, it is believed that he had a brother (name unknown) who was a doctor in Alabama. It is believed their father was in the Union army and died at Andersonville prison. Joseph's wife Sarah Rosina had one arm and was school teacher in Harney Co. Oregon. Excerpts from "Harney County, Ore And Its Range Land," Brimlow, George Francis: Page 66: ".....A term of one quarter was taught by Sarah Latham, who received $100 from subscription. ...." Pages 77, 78: ".....Pete French kept an account book at his headquarter which he designated 'Steins Mountain.' The one for 1876-1879..... On the first page of this bookkeeping journal, in 1876, the owner writes in his indubitable fashion as to his assets: ..... Joe Bates owes me 25.00......" Page 189: .....the "Herald"..... Under the hed, "Journalism from Dame Rumor," the same paper said on May 9, 1888: Last Monday as Mrs. Bates and her son, a lad about ten years old, were driving across a bridge over Silvies River near Z. L. Thomas' place, the horses shied, turning the wagon over into the stream. The boy was caught under the wagon, and being unable to extricate himself, was drowned. Later information is, that both Mr. and Mrs. Bates were in the wagon, and that the bridge broke down, but as the child was drowned in either case it does not make much difference." The Grant County Oregon Fair is celebrating it's 90th year with the theme of A family affair! As part of the celebration they would like to highlight and emphasize families who have been in the county for 90 years or more. If you intend to have your family's history highlighted or need the dates and would like to attend please call the fair office at 541-575-1900. If anyone has any information on Joseph William Bates or Sarah Rosina Latham families please contact: http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnorus/stultz.html http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/u/Glenna-M-Stultz/ Glenna Stultz gstultz@eoni.com "Bill Lewis" lewis536@worldnet.att.net

Looking for the parents of: Joseph William BATES b 26 Oct 1849 LA\NY\TX???; d 5 May 1921 OR; Wife Sarah Rosina LATHAM b 3/11/1855 IL; d 2/11/1930 OR; m 13 Oct 1876 OR Children: Amy Bates b 7 Dec 1877; d Oct 1972 Ora Bates b Mar 1881 Edna Bates b 8 July 1883; d Jul 1975 Donald Bates b Dec 1887 Elbert Bates b 8 Dec 1888 William Joseph Bates b 26 Sep 1889; d 27 Feb 1975 Edwin Bates 3 Jul 1894; d May 1973 Sarah V. Bates two children died in infancy. Joseph was in the the Bannock Indian War. All records report his parents as unknown. However, it is believed that he had a brother (name unknown) who was a doctor in Alabama. It is believed their father was in the Union army and died at Andersonville prison. Joseph's wife Sarah Rosina had one arm and was school teacher in Harney Co. Oregon. Excerpts from "Harney County, Ore And Its Range Land," Brimlow, George Francis: Page 66: ".....A term of one quarter was taught by Sarah Latham, who received $100 from subscription. ...." Pages 77, 78: ".....Pete French kept an account book at his headquarter which he designated 'Steins Mountain.' The one for 1876-1879..... On the first page of this bookkeeping journal, in 1876, the owner writes in his indubitable fashion as to his assets: ..... Joe Bates owes me 25.00......" Page 189: .....the "Herald"..... Under the hed, "Journalism from Dame Rumor," the same paper said on May 9, 1888: Last Monday as Mrs. Bates and her son, a lad about ten years old, were driving across a bridge over Silvies River near Z. L. Thomas' place, the horses shied, turning the wagon over into the stream. The boy was caught under the wagon, and being unable to extricate himself, was drowned. Later information is, that both Mr. and Mrs. Bates were in the wagon, and that the bridge broke down, but as the child was drowned in either case it does not make much difference." The Grant County Oregon Fair is celebrating it's 90th year with the theme of A family affair! As part of the celebration they would like to highlight and emphasize families who have been in the county for 90 years or more. If you intend to have your family's history highlighted or need the dates and would like to attend please call the fair office at 541-575-1900. If anyone has any information on Joseph William Bates or Sarah Rosina Latham families please contact: http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnorus/stultz.html http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/u/Glenna-M-Stultz/ Glenna Stultz gstultz@eoni.com "Bill Lewis" lewis536@worldnet.att.net

test Richard Malatzky Baseball Historian and Finder of Missing Players since 1976

I am a Baseball Historian am trying to find a former major leaguer Creed Bates. He was from Chattanooga but left to start his Baseball career before 1900. His father Levi Marcus Bates died and his obit is in the Chattanooga Times November 27, 1904. There are a couple of Creed F Bates in the City Directories afterwards but that is not him. A Creed F Bates has an obit in the Chatt Times March 25, 1909. If it is him, the death occurred elsewheres. He was in Jail in Quincy Ill 1909 but I don't know exactly when. Richard Malatzky Baseball Historian and Finder of Missing Players since 1976