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I am looking for any information about Sarah Fleming BATES. She was born 23 Oct 1797 in VA. She married William Nathaniel BARNHILL. She died 8 Feb 1869 and is buried in eastern Winston Co., MS.

Bates Family Historians, No one has claimed the 1799 Bible of Elihu Bates, 1772-1821, that I promised to donate to a descendant, so I mailed it off today to the National Bates Association. As promised, I am enclosing below a transcript of what is written in the Bible. After that is a transcript of a letter found between the pages. Some of you will recognize Elihu as a member of the "Bates of Weymouth" as described in this excerpt from the 1929 Bates Bulletin: ----------- 48. ELNATHAN 5 (John 4, 3, Edward 2, 1) was born at Weymouth Mass, April 23, 1736; married Ruth, daughter of Samuel and Experience (Paine) Hunt, intention April 11, 1760. ... He died Feb. 27, 1820; she died Oct. 28, 1824. Their children were: ..... vi. Elihu, Aug. 28, 1772; married Mary, daughter of John and Sarah Leach of Boston. ----------- No children of Elihu were given in that paper. The entire "Bates of Weymouth" family can be found in the Broderbund World Family Tree, V.8, Tree#0196. If you would like a photocopy of the Bible inscriptions, send me a SASE. Any further correspondence about the Bible should be addressed to: Sandy Bates <SBates1011@aol.com> She is the Membership Chair and the Librarian for the National Bates Association. You may be interested to know that I received 117 messages as a result of advertising the Bates Bible. Many are second or third messages from the same person. Some of you may get two copies of this message, because I am posting it on BATES-L and also sending it to those who wrote to me. George George W. Anderson Jr. | Voice: 925 846 4265 635 Oak Circle | E-mail: gwa@ccnet.com Pleasanton, CA 94566 USA | Web: http://www.ccnet.com/~gwa/ - ----------------------------------------------------------- Family Record of Elihu and Mary Bates Elihu Bates, Senr., Married to Mary Leach September 7th 1797. 1. John Adams, Born July 9th 1798 it being on Monday 2 O'clock P.M. 2. Elihu Junr. Born August 27th 1801 at 7 o'clock PM Thursday. 3. Mary Leach Born November 2d 1802 6 oclock AM it being on Tuesday 4. Henry, Born Friday 25th Jany 1805 at 7 O'clock PM 5. Joseph Loud. Born 25 Novr 1806 at 8 ock AM on Tuesday. Deaths Mr. Elihu Bates senr died April 25th 1821 aged 48 years and 8 months. Mr. Elihu Bates junr died August 30 1821 aged 20 years and three days. Marriages [The title is handwritten, but no marriages are listed.] --------- A letter (no date) found between the pages is as follows: -------- Dear Brother, It is with regret that I have to inform you that Capt. Snow died this afternoon after a illness of 8 days. The mate has been very ill but not dangerously. I alone, thank God, have escaped being sick and hope and pray I may not be. I expect to sail from here in about a week. Give my love to mother Sister Brother my respects to all my good friends. [signature illegible] -------------

In a message dated 12/6/99 11:19:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, BATES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Looking for the marriage of Mary Ann Bates to Edward Stow, NJ 1820-1840. > Can anyone help? > Dottie Lewis Dottie, Have you looked at all on any of the sites on the internet? IF not, let me know and i will try a couple places. thanks brenad kingsley@aol.com

December 5, 1999 I posted this message on BATES-L on November 26, 1999. ---------- I have a large Bible printed in 1799 with inscriptions about Elihu Bates, 1772-1821, and family, apparently of New England. A few personal notes, pressed flowers, etc. are between the pages. A descendant of Elihu Bates can have it for the cost of shipping. ----------- I am disappointed that so far no proven descendant of this Elihu Bates has claimed the Bible. If you have a dead-end ancestor (parents unknown) with surname Bates and having birthdate between 1790 and 1810, please contact me to see if your ancestor is one of Elihu's children. George Anderson

Looking for the marriage of Mary Ann Bates to Edward Stow, NJ 1820-1840. Can anyone help? Dottie Lewis

Hello--I'm new to the list and would like to introduce myself as the great great-granddaughter of Tophelia (or Mary) Bates who married Peter Grielen (or Greland? Name change). Tophelia was Peter's second wife. I think both were from Germany--and ended up in Massaschusets, probably Boston, where my great-grandfather, Peter J. Grielen lived in 1901. Does Tophelia sound familiar to anyone? Debbie Dale Washington state

Hello--I'm new to the list and would like to introduce myself as the great great-granddaughter of Tophelia (or Mary) Bates who married Peter Grielen (or Greland? Name change). Tophelia was Peter's second wife. I think both were from Germany--and ended up in Massaschusets, probably Boston, where my great-grandfather, Peter J. Grielen lived in 1901. Does Tophelia sound familiar to anyone? Debbie Dale Washington state

Frances, Your Almira Bates Lothrop sounds suspiciously like she could have been a niece of my Almira BATES (b. abt 1800 Brimfield, MA, m. abt 1820 Thomas Shaff in Hounsfield, Jefferson Co, NY, d. 1880 Brodhead, Green Co WI). Shortly after Almira and Thomas married, they moved to Hannibal, Oswego Co, NY and had at least four children there between 1822 and 1832 (Samuel Shaff, b. Jul 14, 1822; Josiah A.Shaff, b. 1827; Rebecca Shaff, b. Aug 3 1829; and Lorenzo Dow Shaff, b. Jul 22, 1832) before moving to Lake Township, Milwaukee Co WI in 1835. Thomas Shaff drowned the next year, Almira remarried a neighbor John Douglass in 1838, moved to Decatur, Green Co WI in 1853 and then to Spring Grove, Green Co WI the following year. Almira BATES' parents were Samuel BATES (b. Feb 18, 1773 Brimfield, MA, d. Feb 13,1813 Hounsfield, Jefferson Co NY) and Sally Houghton (b.Jan 16,1780 Wales, MA). They married in Wales, MA Jan 13 1779 and had the following children in addition to Almira: Moses Merrick BATES (b. Jul 10, 1801 Brimfield, MA); Asa BATES (b. 1807 Hounsfield, NY); and Mary BATES (b. Apr 17, 1811 Hounsfield NY). Moses Merrick BATES had a daughter named Almira in 1839 in Hounsfield. I don't have Asa's wife's name, but have info from Jefferson Co Bates descendents that Asa moved to WI and lived with his sister Almira BATES after his wife died. Don't know anything about Mary BATES. Have much more info on the ancestry of Samuel BATES and Sally HOUGHTON if you think they might have been the grandparents of your Almira. Wayne Olsen Bonney Lake, WA

Hi, I am looking for anyone with information about Charles Sims Bates. I went to 5th, 6th and part of 7th grades at College View school on College St. in Denver, CO with Charles Bates. He lived on Federal Blvd. there. That was about 1945-46. He would have been born around 1934-35. We were in the Highlander Boys together. I would like to talk to him again as we were good friends. If you have any knowledge of a Charles S. Bates, please let know. ----- Thanks ----- Don L. Fox DonFox@cybertrails.com

I am looking for information on my great grandmother Almira Bates Lothrop born 1829 near Oswego, New York, died 1916 in Wisconsin. Almira married John Wirsing Robinson in 1860. She was 6 feet tall. The notes from my grandfather mention Martin Van Buren Bates, the Kentucky Giant, but I have no idea what the connection is, or anything else about her family. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Frances Robinson francesr@nwlink.com

Hi, I am looking for anyone with information about Charles Sims Bates. I went to 5th, 6th and part of 7th grades at College View school on College St. in Denver, CO with Charles Bates. He lived on Federal Blvd. there. That was about 1945-46. He would have been born around 1934-35. We were in the Highlander Boys together. I would like to talk to him again as we were good friends. If you have any knowledge of a Charles S. Bates, please let know. Thanks Don L. Fox DonFox@cybertrails.com

I have a large Bible printed in 1799 with inscriptions about Elihu Bates, 1772-1821, and family, apparently of New England. A few personal notes, pressed flowers, etc. are between the pages. A descendant of Elihu Bates can have it for the cost of shipping. George Anderson gwa@ccnet.com

Hello All You Distant Cousins, Anyone with info on Peter (Pieter) BATES (BATTJES) of Pietersbierum, Netherlands, b 21 May 1838; mar Gertrude COY ( KOLKANA) 1860 in Netherlands. They emigreated to the USA in 1865, settling in Panama, Town of Harmony, Chautauqua Co, NY and had a total of nine (9) children, four of whom died in infancy. Anyone with any information on this family is urged to get in contact with me, as I am really up against a brick wall on this family line. Peter and Gertrude are my great grandparents on my father's side and I would really like to find out more about that line of my family. Hoping to hear from you! Dr. Dixon G. Stevens dixondoc@netsync.net

Hello All You Distant Cousins, Anyone with info on Peter (Pieter) BATES (BATTJES) of Pietersbierum, Netherlands, b 21 May 1838; mar Gertrude COY ( KOLKANA) 1860 in Netherlands. They emigreated to the USA in 1865, settling in Panama, Town of Harmony, Chautauqua Co, NY and had a total of nine (9) children, four of whom died in infancy. Anyone with any information on this family is urged to get in contact with me, as I am really up against a brick wall on this family line. Peter and Gertrude are my great grandparents on my father's side and I would really like to find out more about that line of my family. Hoping to hear from you! Dr. Dixon G. Stevens dixondoc@netsync.net

Looking for any Limestone/Lauderdale Alabama Bates Families. susan in texas Especially any William W. Bates b. c 1835 who married a Martha A.F.Sandlin 17 Sep 1857 in Limestone County Alabama

Hi Wanda Thanks for dropping by with your message. I did reply to you personaly but it too has bounced. Regards Batesy

Any one out there have any information on these missing children of THOMAS BATES and AGNES(S) JESSIE BATES nee MUNRO of Bedford England. ARTHUR BATES b. abt 1880, St.Albans, Herts. EDWARD MORTIMER BATES b. 24-9-1883 Bedford REGINALD BUCANAN BATES b. 5-3-1888 Bedford FRANK BATES b. ??????? EDITH ETHEL BATES b. 4-11-1889 Bedford EDWARD married a FLORENCE WEST. EDTTH married a ROY WEST brother of FLORENCE Any help would be much appreciated. THOMAS was my greatuncle being the brother of my grandfather JOHN BATES. THOMAS and JOHN ran a drapery business at 2, High ST, St.Mary's, BEDFORD. Thanks PETER BATES, Gwandalan. Central Coast. NSW. Aust

Hi listers, My name is Ian Bates of Gippsland Victoria Australia. This is going to be a long shot, but I can see no other avenue for me to take at present. My grandfather Percival George Bates was b. 1893-5 supposedly in Dorsetshire Eng. according to his WW1 enlistment papers. On his death in 1963 his wife gives his pob as Sommerset Eng. I recall my mother once telling me that she thought he had been b. in India as his father George Bates m to Catherine Annie Jones was in the Brit. Army and stationed there at the time of Percy`s birth. OK, well a search of all three areas has drawn a blank. To make matters worse, family story goes that for 6 generations there was only the one child born to each Bates mrg and ofcourse it would have been a male child each time to carry on the name. With that in mind I`m not holding out much hope of ever connecting with other living relatives. <g> short of my own sibs <ebg> So in short, do any listers recognise the above names ? Perhaps someone has come across them in their own research. As you would all be well aware; this aint just some brick wall ! It`s got grease smeared on it and it`s reinforced with 1" reo !!!!! Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and I`m always open to constructive critisism and suggestions. thankyou for taking the time to read this Batesy Ian Bates Gippsland Australia Reseaching:- BATES-Somerset Dorset-1895 WATSON-Aberfoyle-1875 HURN-Norfolk&London-1827-1851 BRUMFIELD-LONDON-1829-1851 GIBSON-Glasgow-1870 & Airdrie-1895 GIBSON & MUNNUCH/MONACH--Carnwath & Fife 1830--1850`s STARK & CLARKSON Carnwath 1850`s VINECOMBE Channel Islands & Devon 17-1800`s

Hi listers, My name is Ian Bates of Gippsland Victoria Australia. This is going to be a long shot, but I can see no other avenue for me to take at present. My grandfather Percival George Bates was b. 1893-5 supposedly in Dorsetshire Eng. according to his WW1 enlistment papers. On his death in 1963 his wife gives his pob as Sommerset Eng. I recall my mother once telling me that she thought he had been b. in India as his father George Bates m to Catherine Annie Jones was in the Brit. Army and stationed there at the time of Percy`s birth. OK, well a search of all three areas has drawn a blank. To make matters worse, family story goes that for 6 generations there was only the one child born to each Bates mrg and ofcourse it would have been a male child each time to carry on the name. With that in mind I`m not holding out much hope of ever connecting with other living relatives. <g> short of my own sibs <ebg> So in short, do any listers recognise the above names ? Perhaps someone has come across them in their own research. As you would all be well aware; this aint just some brick wall ! It`s got grease smeared on it and it`s reinforced with 1" reo !!!!! Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and I`m always open to constructive critisism and suggestions. thankyou for taking the time to read this Batesy Ian Bates Gippsland Australia Reseaching:- BATES-Somerset Dorset-1895 WATSON-Aberfoyle-1875 HURN-Norfolk&London-1827-1851 BRUMFIELD-LONDON-1829-1851 GIBSON-Glasgow-1870 & Airdrie-1895 GIBSON & MUNNUCH/MONACH--Carnwath & Fife 1830--1850`s STARK & CLARKSON Carnwath 1850`s VINECOMBE Channel Islands & Devon 17-1800`s