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http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/search.cgi?surname=bates&given=&state=&ci ty=&start=501&stype=Exact CONTINUED from email #1 All would not fit in first email... sorry Good Luck brenda World War I Civilian Draft Registration Database ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Bates Will 28 May 1895 B Kosciusko MS Bolivar MS # 2 Bates Will 16 May 1884 B Coahoma MS Bates Will 4 Jul 1889 B Gloster MS Coahoma MS Bates Will 15 Oct 1884 B Pike MS Bates Will abt 1875 B b. 5 Jun Tallahatchie MS Bates Will abt 1875 B lives in Sharkey MS Tallahatchie MS Bates Will 25 Dec 1873 B relat. lives Cincinnati OH Tunica MS Bates William 1 Jun 1883 W citizen of Australia San Francisco CA # 1 Bates William 1 Jun 1883 W sis. lives Tacoma WA San Francisco CA # 1 Bates William 12 Feb 1887 B Port Gibson MS Claiborne MS Bates William Arnold 10 Sep 1900 W Neshoba MS Bates William Austin 10 Aug 1881 W Itawamba MS Bates William Bailey 7 Jan 1894 W Coles Creek MS Calhoun MS Bates William Eddie 19 Oct 1893 W Tampa FL Hillsborough FL Bates William Edgar 5 Oct 1896 W he & dad b. Lake Como MS Lauderdale MS # 1 Bates William Edgar 5 Oct 1896 W relat. lives Catching MS Lauderdale MS # 1 Bates William Guy 28 Aug 1888 W Armington MT Pondera? MT [Late Bates William Guy 28 Aug 1888 W in Montana state prison Pondera? MT [Late Bates William Hamilton 13 Jun 1881 W Bolivar MS # 2 Bates William Hueston 8 Feb 1898 W lives in Leesburg MS Scott MS Bates William J. 11 Mar 1889 W Pittsburgh PA NYC (Bronx) NY # 1 Bates William Joseph 18 Jun 1875 W relative lives Oakland CA Yuba CA Bates William LeRoy 6 Feb 1891 W Bennington VT Bennington VT Bates William Mack 14 Dec 1892 W Lafayette Co. FL Tampa FL # 2 Bates William Perry 31 Oct 1886 W Pasco FL Pasco FL Bates William Prince 20 Dec 1882 W Boise Co. ID Bates William R. 23 May 1894 W Menominee WI Canyon ID Bates William R. 25 Aug 1889 W Lamar MO Madison ID Bates William Robert 25 Sep 1878 W relative lives Charlston TN Elmore ID Bates William Russell 8 Dec 1882 W Columbia FL Bates William Thomas 6 Oct 1892 W near Carrollton MS Carroll MS Bates William Wallace 1 May 1889 W St. Albans VT Lamoille VT Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

i have bates family wondering if you know about any , im only going to give a couple right now , ill give more later , these are inportant to me right now. do you know of beatrice bates or leroy bates, beatrice was married to thomas campbell, i havent got all infromation in front of me right now. if you

Thank you, Patti, for the information. I was wondering whether the Levrett connection might be bogus. I just returned last week from a trip to the Library of Congress for genealogical research. Your response to my Bates query has focused my attention upon some articles I hastily copied and notes that I've been putting together on Edward Bates' ancestry. A big breakthrough was apparently made in 1990 regarding the English origins of Edward Bates of Weymouth, Massachusetts (1655-1725), husband of Elizabeth Shaw (1655/56-1748). I would like to refer you and our other gentle list subscribers to Frederick J. Nicholson's excellent article "THE ENGLISH ORIGINS OF MACUTH PRATT AND EDWARD BATES OF WEYMOUTH, MASS." It can be found in the January 1990 issue of The American Genealogist, pp. 33-43. Generation No. 1 1. Edward Bate of Weymouth, the Elder, born November 23, 1606 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; died March 25, 1686 in Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts. He was the son of 2. William Bate, Jr. and 3. Margery Phillips. He married (1) Susanna Putnam on January 26, 1631/32 in Drayton Beauchamp, Buckinghamshire, England. This marriage is recorded in the Drayton, Beauchamp Parish records. She was born January 28, 1609/10 in Tring, Hertfordshire, England, and died April 1642. Tring is just across the county line from Drayton, Beauchamp. Susanna was the daughter of Richard Putnam and Susan Brown. See Eben Putnam's chapter: "The Putnams of Hawridge and Choulsbury" in his _A History of the Putnam Family in England and America_. Generation No. 2 This information is sourced from Nicholson's article in TAG. 2. William Bate, Jr., born February 24, 1569/70 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. He was the son of 4. William Bate, Sr. and 5. Alice (widow?) Oslington. He married 3. Margery Phillips January 27, 1605/06 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. 3. Margery Phillips, born Abt. 1580 in England. Children of William Bate and Margery Phillips are: 1 i. Edward Bateof Weymouth, the Elder, born November 23, 1606 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; died March 25, 1686 in Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts; married Susanna Putnam January 26, 1631/32 in Drayton Beauchamp, Buckinghamshire, England. ii. Elizabeth Bate, born Abt. 1608. iii. Mary (spinster) Bate, born Bef. June 24, 1614; died June 1635. iv. Anna (spinster) Bate, born Bef. August 11, 1616; died January 1633/34. Generation No. 3 This information is also sourced from Nicholson's article in TAG. 4. William Bate, Sr., born Abt. 1545 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; died August 1605 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. He married 5. Alice (widow?) Oslington July 20, 1564 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. 5. Alice (widow?) Oslington, born Abt. 1545; died July 1609 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. It was Alice's will that provided the key to Edward's ancestry. Alice may have been the daughter of 10. Thomas Oslyngton. Children of William Bate and Alice Oslington are: 2 i. William Bate, Jr., born February 24, 1569/70 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; married (1) Joan Dover November 05, 1601 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; married (2) Margery Phillips January 27, 1605/06 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. ii. Henry Bate, born Bet. 1571 - 1577; died March 1628/29; married Joyce ___ Abt. 1600. iii. Winifred Bate, married (1) ______ Daniell Bef. September 1605; married (2) _____ Turney Bef. March 1607/08. iv. Ellen Bate, married _____ Hall Bef. September 23, 1605. v. Catherine Bate, died March 1620/21; married William Kingham Bef. December 02, 1592; born November 25, 1571 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. Catherine and William's daughter Elizabeth Kingham married Macuth Pratt. It is this Pratt connection that provided the clue to search for Bate records in the Aston Clinton area of Buckinghamshire. Pratt family records point there. Tentative Generation No. 4 This is as yet unconfirmed. 10. Thomas Oslyngton, born Abt. 1525 in England; died February 01, 1564/65 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. Child of Thomas Oslyngton may be: 5 i. Alice (widow?) Oslington, born Abt. 1545; died July 1609 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England; married William Bate, Sr. July 20, 1564 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England. I have this because of Thomas' dates and place. He may not be Alice's father but he is likely at least a close relative, perhaps an uncle. I am descended from Mary Bates and Caleb Campbell's daughter Mercy, who married Stephen Whiton and had Israel, who married Hannah Stowell and had Kimball Whiting (Whiton variant sp.) who married Desire Jordan and had a son George Whiting who married Ann Smith and had Edward, who married Nancy Black and had son Charles Whiting who married Anna Wodnicka and had daughter Florence, who married Charles Rutledge and had my mother, Mary. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PATTIBATES@aol.com> To: <BATES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:52 PM Subject: [BATES-L] Mary Bates > --part1_b7.3a4d974.266b2c8c_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In response to David Glasser's request for more information on Mary Bates: > > The Mary Bates who married Caleb Campbell was a sister to our Benjamin Bates, > who married Rebecca Eager. They were the children of Edward Bates and > Elizabeth Shaw, who married 26 Feb 1675 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA.. Edward's > parents were Edward Bate and Susanna Putnem, who married about 1636 in > Weymouth. > > I have further information if nobody supplies you a complete file, but I want > to make the point that Edward Bate was NOT the son of Edmund Bate and > Elizabeth Levrett of Boston, as so many people have suggested. Edmund and > Elizabeth had NO children. > > Please let me know if you want further information. > > Patti

--part1_b7.3a4d974.266b2c8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In response to David Glasser's request for more information on Mary Bates: The Mary Bates who married Caleb Campbell was a sister to our Benjamin Bates, who married Rebecca Eager. They were the children of Edward Bates and Elizabeth Shaw, who married 26 Feb 1675 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA.. Edward's parents were Edward Bate and Susanna Putnem, who married about 1636 in Weymouth. I have further information if nobody supplies you a complete file, but I want to make the point that Edward Bate was NOT the son of Edmund Bate and Elizabeth Levrett of Boston, as so many people have suggested. Edmund and Elizabeth had NO children. Please let me know if you want further information. Patti --part1_b7.3a4d974.266b2c8c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <PATTIBATES@aol.com> From: PATTIBATES@aol.com Full-name: PATTIBATES Message-ID: <ce.63874d2.266ac286@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:20:22 EDT Subject: Fwd: BATES-D Digest V00 #57 To: PATTIBATES@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_b7.3a4d974.266ac286_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 100 --part2_b7.3a4d974.266ac286_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/03/2000 10:00:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BATES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:07:44 -0500 From: "David Glasser" <glasser@facstaff.wisc.edu> To: BATES-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002101bfccde$fc7204c0$603cabd0@tds.net> Subject: [BATES-L] Mary Bates (1697-1750) = Caleb Campbell (1699-1750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a good ancestry for Mary Bates, born in Weymouth, MA on December 11, 1697 and died in Hingham 24 May 1750? She was the wife of Caleb Campbell (1699-1750). David Glasser >> --part2_b7.3a4d974.266ac286_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <BATES-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.1]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:00:37 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:00:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e53H03I03744; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 10:00:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 10:00:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200006031700.e53H03I03744@lists5.rootsweb.com> From: BATES-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: BATES-D Digest V00 #57 X-Loop: BATES-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BATES-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/57 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: BATES-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BATES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailer: Unknown ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain BATES-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 57 Today's Topics: #1 [BATES-L] Mary Bates (1697-1750) = ["David Glasser" <glasser@facstaff.] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from BATES-D, send a message to BATES-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:07:44 -0500 From: "David Glasser" <glasser@facstaff.wisc.edu> To: BATES-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002101bfccde$fc7204c0$603cabd0@tds.net> Subject: [BATES-L] Mary Bates (1697-1750) = Caleb Campbell (1699-1750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a good ancestry for Mary Bates, born in Weymouth, MA on December 11, 1697 and died in Hingham 24 May 1750? She was the wife of Caleb Campbell (1699-1750). David Glasser -------------------------------- --part2_b7.3a4d974.266ac286_boundary-- --part1_b7.3a4d974.266b2c8c_boundary--

Good reading.. brenda~ kingsley@aol.com ============================================================ GEORGE G. MORGAN: "ALONG THOSE LINES . . ." "Thirteen Reasons Our Ancestors Migrated" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ============================================================ We are a very mobile society today. People think nothing of accepting a job offer in another state or in another country on the other side of the globe. But it was not always so. In other times, the decision to migrate to another place was a very major consideration. It was fraught with risk and danger, and meant leaving many things behind. Undertaking such a move might also have meant never seeing parents, siblings, other family members, and friends again. It was a very big decision! Do you know where your ancestors came from? Do you know what influenced their decision to migrate? Do you know why your ancestors settled where they did? The answers to these questions can help you better understand your ancestors and, in turn, help you develop better hypotheses about them. In "Along Those Lines . . ." this week, let's consider thirteen prominent reasons why ancestors might have migrated from one place to another. THIRTEEN REASONS WHY ANCESTORS MIGRATED Let me first say that the thirteen reasons that follow cannot possibly encompass the universe of factors that influenced our ancestors to make a move. However, these thirteen (in no particular order) appear throughout history as the most common reasons for migrating to a new place. Religious or Ethnic Persecution. The desire for the freedom to exercise one's religious beliefs, or to pursue the lifestyle of one's ethnic group, is one the most overwhelming reasons for migration of our ancestors. Protestants practiced their religion in secret during the rule of Catholic monarchs across Europe. You will recall stories of the Puritans, Quakers, and Huguenots and their migrations to establish some of the most successful settlements in the New World. In addition, the persecution of Jews throughout history forced many of them to relocate again and again, and many migrated again to settle in the newly formed nation of Israel after its formation in 1948. Were your ancestors persecuted, and as a result, did they migrate elsewhere? Natural Disasters. Drought, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, fires, hurricanes, and other natural disasters were life-altering catastrophes that caused people to leave one place and move to another. Recent examples include the Johnstown Flood of 1889, the hurricane in 1900 that decimated Galveston, TX, the San Francisco earthquakes of 1906 and 1989, the 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens, and this year's devastating wildfires near Los Alamos, NM. All of these calamities resulted in loss of life and destruction of property, and many survivors abandoned the area and migrated elsewhere. Were your ancestors victims of such a catastrophe? Famine. Drought and plant diseases are common natural causes of famine; wars, land mismanagement, and other human-caused disasters also result in famine. Whatever the reason for famine, people cannot withstand starvation for long, and they often migrate elsewhere. Consider the Irish Potato Famine, the Dust Bowl of the Great Depression in the United States, the accounts of Chinese famines in Jung Chang's book "Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China," and the TV news accounts we frequently see of famine in Africa. Starving people will become refugees to seek sources of nourishment. Did any of your ancestors migrate because of famine? Economic Problems. The economic problems of an area can cause people to migrate. Consider the tale of the French stonemason, who because of economic inflation and government politics in the early 1800s, could not find enough work to feed his family and his parents. On hearing of the growing housing development in upstate New York created by the opening of the Erie Canal, he sold everything and moved his entire extended family to America; there he began what became one of the most successful building concerns in what is now the Buffalo, NY area. War. The conflict and destruction caused by war is a major cause for upheaval of persons. People may have been fleeing approaching armies, or the men may have been trying to avoid conscription in order to protect and provide for their families. They may have lost their homes and possessions as a result of bombing. They may also have been the targets of political or ethnic persecution. They may even have been like Anne Frank, the Jewish girl whose diary recounts her family's persecution, flight, and hiding in Amsterdam during World War II. Wars displace people and make them refugees. Were your ancestors participants in or victims of a war? Political Strife/Turmoil/Oppression. Political conditions may be too oppressive to be endured, and as a result, people may flee to other areas or countries. The United States has for centuries been a haven to Europeans emigrating to seek freedom from political oppression. German citizens emigrated during the 1930s to avoid the expanding Nazi menace; Russian athletes and dancers defected to the United States when they had an opportunity to visit; and Cuban refugees continue to attempt to flee the Castro regime. Were your ancestors trying to avoid political oppression when they came to North America? Following Family and Friends. Many people followed other family members or friends who had already moved somewhere else. Tales and promises of better living conditions, prosperity, or opportunity to start a new life were sometimes irresistible lures. Pioneers who went west in wagon trains to settle in California and Oregon wrote home with glowing descriptions that convinced families and friends to join them. And who can forget the irresistible lure of gold in California in the late 1840s and 1850s? Sometimes, too, people decided to accompany their family members or good friends when they decided to migrate. In my own ancestry, I can trace four brothers and their entire families and seventeen families that were their close friends, including their minister and his family, who all migrated from Cecil County, MD to Mecklenburg County, NC in the 1740s. This was not uncommon. Did your ancestors follow or accompany other family or friends to another location? Adoption. Adoption forces the movement of the adoptee from one place to another without his or her control. Not only were there simple family-to-family placements, but the Orphan Trains also carried children from cities across North American and placed as many as 150,000 to 200,000 children in new homes in forty-seven states, Canada, and South America. Was one of your ancestors an adoptee? Was your ancestor relocated by the Orphan Trains? Slavery. Unfortunately, the heinous institution of slavery was responsible for rending families apart and relocating tens of thousands of persons. The sale or exchange of human beings removed people from Africa to the New World, and then from place to place as a result of sale or barter. Were any of your ancestors slaves? Forced Relocation of Native Americans. As the colonies and states grew and expanded, Native Americans were deemed "in the way of progress." Armed conflicts between Native Americans and white settlers and their armies ensued. Ultimately, the Native Americans lost and were coerced or compelled to sign treaties with the government. These treaties called for the ceding of Native American lands and the permanent relocation of American Indians to parcels referred to as reservations. Many died in the relocation marches, such as the "Trail of Tears." Were any of your ancestors Native Americans who were forced to relocate to a reservation? Criminal Incarceration/Deportment. Some criminals were transported to the colonies to serve their sentences of hard labor or to simply get rid of them permanently. Others were offered the option of relocating to a colony rather than face prolonged imprisonment in their homeland. James Edward Oglethorpe, for instance, devised a plan for the colony of Georgia to be populated by the debtors released from prison and the so-called "worthy poor" of London. Australia was originally a penal colony. Were any of your ancestors criminals or debtors who were deported to another place? Not a First Son. It was common in the Middle Ages (and later) for the eldest son to inherit all property on the death of his father. He could allow his mother and other siblings to remain or could force them to leave. Sisters to the eldest son were usually married off; depending on the size of the estate and the temperament of the inheritor, his brothers either remained on sufferance or as employees of the eldest son, or they were encouraged to strike out on their own to make their own way in the world. Was your ancestor an inheriting eldest son, or one who moved on to make it on his own? Great Financial Opportunity. We've all heard tales of immigrants who came to America to see the streets that were "paved with gold." Many immigrants left family, friends, and everything familiar for the opportunity to make a new life and to prosper. Probably more than any other reason for migrating, this is the most common. Did your ancestor come to the United States to make a fortune? GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT There were many motivations for your ancestors to migrate from overseas to the New World. Once here, they learned firsthand of opportunities where they landed and beyond, and they may have moved once, twice, or more times until they found what suited their needs. It is important to do more than just fill in pedigree charts for your ancestors. Learn all you can about their families. Research the history of the area in which your ancestor began his or her life, and try to determine when he/she moved. What factors may have influenced the decision to migrate? Where did the person(s) migrate to? Did they make multiple moves? Why? And finally, why did they settle where they did? Many of the answers to these questions may help you better understand your family and the values they shared and imparted to succeeding generations. Maybe you'll learn a little more about yourself in the process! Happy Hunting! George _________________________________________________________________ Copyright 2000, MyFamily.com. All rights reserved. George G. Morgan is a proud member of the International Society of Family History Writers and Editors, Inc. (ISFHWE). He would like to hear from you at atl@ahaseminars.com, but due to the volume of e-mail received, he is unable to answer every e-mail message received. Please note that he cannot assist you with your individual research. Visit George's Web site at http://ahaseminars.com/atl for information about speaking engagements. George is also the author of "The Genealogy Forum on America Online," which is available in the Ancestry Online Store at: http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog/product.asp?pf%5Fid=1101046&dept%5Fid =10102000 Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

BATES (9) Database: Gloucester, Massachusetts Directories, 1883-93 Combined Matches: 9 http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4655.htm Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year Albert L. Bates fisherman boards 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1888, 1889 James Y. Bates fisherman house 18 Rackliffe Gloucester MA 1888, 1889 Jesse L. Bates fisherman boards 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1888, 1889 Simeon Avery Bates fisherman house 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1888, 1889 Albert L. Bates fisherman boards 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1890, 1891 James Y. Bates fisherman house 18 Rackliffe Gloucester MA 1890, 1891 Jesse L. Bates fisherman boards 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1890, 1891 Miss Mildred F. Bates bookkeeper 118 Main boards 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1890, 1891 Simeon Avery Bates fisherman house 12 Wonson Gloucester MA 1890, 1891 Good Luck brenda ;) Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Does anyone have a good ancestry for Mary Bates, born in Weymouth, MA on December 11, 1697 and died in Hingham 24 May 1750? She was the wife of Caleb Campbell (1699-1750). David Glasser

In a message dated 05/31/2000 10:02:36 AM Central Daylight Time, KINGSLEY@aol.com writes: He was son of John Bates and Susannah Fleming, of York county, Quakers, >> Are John and Susannah Fleming of New York? I am looking for the parents of Mary Bates the wife of Homer Slauson. Mary Bates was born about 1725 and was the mother of Sarah Slauson of Pound Ridge, New York. Any suggestions. Candee

Search Terms: BATES (7) Database: Virginia Biographical Encyclopedia Combined Matches: 7 Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume I IV--Burgesses and Other Prominent Persons Name: John Bates Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume I IV--Burgesses and Other Prominent Persons was a burgess from Halifax county, Nov., 1753 to 1758. He was son of John Bates and Susannah Fleming, of York county, Quakers, and descended from John Bates (born 1600--died 1666), an early immigrant to Virginia. He died in Halifax county about 1777, leaving issue David, Elizabeth, John, James, Fleming and Susanna and a wife surviving named Chloe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume III VII--Prominent Persons born in Richmond, Virginia, February 13, 1831, son of Auguste Guigon and Ellen Smithey, his wife; his father was a Frenchman who came to Richmond, where he was a teacher. He was privately educated, and as a youth became a page in congress, where he formed the acquaintance of many of the distinguished lawyers of the country, which aided in determining his selection of a profession. After attending private schools in Richmond, he studied law and upon attaining his majority entered upon the practice of his profession shortly before the war. He was one of the original company of Richmond Howitzers, formed by the late George W. Randolph. When war broke out in April, 1861, the Howitzer company had so many members it became necessary to organize a battalion of three companies, which were mustered into the service of the Confederacy, April 21, 1861. Guigon, then a private, was made orderly sergeant of the Second company, commanded by J. Thompson Brown. Guigon was with a section of this company, which was sent to Gloucester Point and fired on the gunboat Yankee, on May 20, 1861, the first gun of the war fired in Virginia. He served in the Peninsula campaign under Gen. John Bankhead Magruder; was at the battle of Bethel, and from the battle of Bethel (June 10, 1861), to the advance of McClellan up the Peninsula (April, 1862), Guigon was, with a short interval of sickness, continuously with his company. On April 15, 1862, Guigon was commissioned captain in the Confederate army, and authorized to raise a company of artillery. The project was unsuccessful and he joined the First company of Richmond Howitzers as a private, but later was appointed ordnance sergeant of a battery commanded by his old partner, Capt. (afterwards Colonel) Marmaduke Johnson, and served in that capacity with the Third Corps of the Army of Northern Virginia up to its surrender at Appomattox. After the surrender of Gen. Lee's army at Appomattox, Capt. Guigon resumed the practice of the law in Richmond. In 1870 he was elected judge of the hustings court, being the first elected to hold that office after the war. After serving as judge for eight years, he died, February 22, 1878, and the event was the occasion of the largest meeting of members of the bench and bar of the city of Richmond and its vicinity ever assembled, and the resolutions passed by them express far more than the ordinary state formalities. Judge Guigon founded, in 1856, "The Quarterly Law Journal," the first law journal published in the south, which he conducted until shortly before the beginning of the civil war. He was a master Mason and member of Joppa Lodge, No. 40, in Richmond. Before the war he was a Whig, but when the war terminated he allied himself with the Democratic party. He was a regular attendant of the Monumental Episcopal Church in Richmond. On August 20, 1857, he married Sarah Bates Allen, daughter of James Allen of the firm of Davenport & Allen, Richmond, and formerly of New Bedford, Massachusetts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume IIIVII--Prominent Persons was born in Albemarle county, Virginia, May 19, 1819. He was educated at the high school, and when sixteen years of age studied one year at the University of Virginia. In June, 1837, he removed to Missouri, where he studied law in the office of Edward Bates for three years. In 1841 he began the practice of law in Pike county, Missouri, and in 1845 was elected as a delegate to the constitutional convention of the state. In 1846 he was elected to the state legislature from Pike county, and in 1850 to the state senate, and served in that capacity four years. In 1859 he located in St. Louis, and in February, 1861, he was appointed United States district attorney of Missouri, but resigned when he found that it interferred with his duties as a delegate to the state convention, "for vindicating the sovereignty of the state, and the protection of its institutions." Under the provisions of resolutions offered by Mr. Broadhead, this convention abolished the existing state government and established a provisional government, which for the first three years of the civil war managed its affairs, raising and organizing a military force in support of the United States government. He was commissioned lieutenant-colonel of the Third Missouri Cavalry, and was assigned to duty on the staff of General Schofield, as provost marshal-general of the department of Missouri. In 1876 he was appointed by President Grant as counsel on the part of the government in the prosecution of the "whiskey frauds." In 1878 he was chosen president of the American Bar Association, which met at Saratoga, New York. In 1882 he was elected a representative to the forty-eighth congress as a Democrat, and in 1885 was appointed by the government as special agent to make preliminary search of the record of the French archives in the matter of the French spoliation claims, making his report in October, 1885. He was United States minister to Switzerland, 1893-97, and on his return he took up the practice of his profession. He died in St. Louis, Missouri, August 7, 1898. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume V (I) Joseph J. Pleasants was born in Goochland county, Virginia, in 1799, died in 1884. He was a planter and civil engineer. He and his son, George Dillwyn, platted Hollywood Cemetery before its use as a burial ground had begun. His wife was Miss Bates, who preceded him to the grave by many years, having borne him: Benjamin B., William H., Mary, George Dillwyn, of whom further, Nannie, Walter F., Julia, who now lives on the home estate, Marion Hill, in Henrico county, Virginia, which Joseph J. Pleasants bought and made his residence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume V Mr. Herbert married (first) October 30, 1894, Rosa Lee Smith, born in March, 1872, died in October, 1910, and had children: Vernon Dabney, born May 29, 1897; Calder Smith, born October 29, 1899; Lucille S., born June 22, 1903. He married (second) January 3, 1912, Annie Clay Bates, and has one daughter, Ethel Gurney, born December 12, 1912. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume V George Gibson Worsham, of Richmond, is a son of John Henry and Mary Bell (Pilcher) Worsham, who had children: 1. Bell, married S. Edward Bates, Jr., and had daughters, Mildred and Mary. 2. Jessie, died in infancy. 3. George Gibson, of further mention. 4. Natalie, wife of W. Wirt Henry, and mother of John W. Henry. George Gibson Worsham is a grandson of Richard and Clark R. (Goddin) Worsham, the latter a sister of Wellington Goddin. Mr. Worsham's father, John H. Worsham, was a Confederate soldier, having served throughout the war until he was wounded at Winchester in 1864. He is the author of "One of Jackson's Foot Cavalry." Shortly after the war he went to Scottsville, where he engaged in the milling business, and operated a line of boats on the old James river and Kanawha canal until the canal was sold to the Richmond & Alleghany railroad, when he returned to Richmond and engaged in the insurance business. Good Luck brenda Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 ancestry.com Given Name Surname Given Name Spouse Surname Spouse Marriage Date County State JAMES E. BATES REBECCA J. GILLMORE 08 Jan 1880 Pulaski KY JAMES J. BATES REBECCA F. RIDINGS 16 Mar 1876 Pulaski KY B. F. LARKIN ELLEN E. BATES 13 Apr 1882 Pulaski KY WILLIAM H. BATES POLLY ANN CLONCH 17 Mar 1864 Pulaski KY JAMES E. BATES NANNIE M. SEARS 20 Jun 1900 Pulaski KY WILLIAM N. BATES MATTIE G. HUBBLE 15 Nov 1896 Pulaski KY LOVEALL GRAGG MARTHA S. BATES 29 Jun 1898 Pulaski KY JAMES BATES ELIZABETH OSBORN 11 Aug 1858 Pulaski KY MICHAEL BATES SIOTHAY COX 04 Feb 1855 Pulaski KY JOHN OSBORNE MARTHA BATES 23 Jan 1854 Pulaski KY good luck brenda Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

My roots in Jefferson County, Ala go back to somewhere in the 1830's. My ancestor, Benjamin Goyne (b. abt 1780 in NC) had a daughter, Elizabeth (b. abt 1816) who m. Nathan F. Wheatly on 3 July 1833 in Jefferson Co., ALA. Their daughter, Arrena A. Wheatly, b. abt 1836, m. Washington A. Bates (b. abt 1830) on 15 Dec 1850 in Jefferson Co., ALA. Washington and Arrena’s son, John W. Bates, (b. abt 1852 Jefferson CO.,ALA) m. Mary Jane STANDLAND, b. 26 Jan 1849, dau of James H. and Lisa Jane STANDLAND. Their daughter, Lucy Ann Bates is my great-grandmother. Families mentioned above are listed in Jefferson Co., ALA 1850 Census: (p. 206 B, Powels Beat, Dist. 32) Fam # 96 Goyne, Benjamin 70 NC (Listed with what is apparently his second wife, Mary) Fam # 97 Wheatly, Nathan 34 GA Elizabeth 34 TN Arrena A. 14 ALA (m. Washington A. BATES) Benjamin 12 ALA (he m. Nancy K. BATES, sister of Washington A.) Mary A. 10 ALA Rhoda A. 9 ALA Nancy C. 7 ALA William J. 5 ALA ( p. 204A, 204B; Powels Beat, Dist. 32 Fam # 64 Bates John 45 SC Frances 45 SC (maiden name not presently known) Washington A.20 GA (m. Arrena A. WHEATLY) Mary A. 17 GA Nancy 14 GA Melissa J. 10 ALA Lucinda F. 6 ALA (m. 1. James M. Goins (GOYNE?)) John W. 3 ALA Newton B. 3 ALA Page 217A, Greens Beat, Dist # 32, Jefferson CO.,ALA 1850 Census Fam # 60 STANLEY, James H. 35 NC Jane 20 ALA Mary J. 1 ALA Family stories have been passed on that Lucy Ann BATES was Indian (either full or 1/2), but I have found no proof. Are these families familiar to anyone? T Niswonger

EXCERPT FROM PAGE 3 OF MAY 2000 EDITION OF BATES BOOSTER NEWS WHAT - 29th Annual Bates Family Reunion WHO - Members of The Bates Family of Old Virginia (BFofOV) WHEN - 16TH (Friday) & 17th (Saturday) June 2000 FRIDAY MID-AFTERNOON AND EVENING IN HOSPITALITY ROOM Show & Tell Time. It's unstructured time, it's getting acquainted time. It's discovery time. Browse through books from Bates Lending Library. Bring your own "Show & Tell" memorabilia. It's fun time, corner a cousin. SATURDAY MORNING - FOLLOWED BY FREE LUNCHEON Business meeting, election of officers for next term, preceding the Speaker. The Speaker's subject will be Batesville, Virginia, which was named in honor of Rowland Horseley Bates (1788-1781). WHERE - Holiday Inn, Charlottesville, VA - lot to "do & see" in the area MOTEL LOCATION - Jct. I-64 & 5th St. (Exit 120) RESERVATION - Phone Toll Free 800-977-9991 & mention Bates Family. CALL EARLY TO INSURE RESERVATION ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- NEW BATES "RESEARCH" WEB SITE SEE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3 OF MAY 2000 NEWSLETTER FOR ANNOUNCEMENT To date, over 50 past editions of The Bates Booster newsletters have been scanned-in on the new Bates "Research" web site. In time, all 168 past editions will appear on the web site. The web site is restricted to Bates membership. To obtain access to the new web site, and receive password, members should e-mail the editor (Deborah Harper) deborahl@halcyondays.com with "Bates Login Request" in the Subject Block. http://www.halcyondays.com/bates.htm Click-on "How to Join"

LIFTED FROM BATES GENEALOGY FORUM - WILEY LLOYD BATE OF KY & IN Re: wiley lloyd bates Posted by: Wayne Witt Bates Date: May 20, 2000 at 16:21:59 In Reply to: wiley lloyd bates by Fern Sembach of 2965 FROM THE FILES OF BATES FAMILY OF OLD VIRGINIA (BFofOV) http://www.halcyondays.com/bates.htm Click-on "How to Join" and learn how to Gain access to Bates new "Research" web site Page 5 Bates Booster No. 166, dated Nov 1999: "John Bates appeared on 1810 Tax Roll of Boone Co., KY. His first child wa born in April 1810 and named WILEY LLOYD BATES." (The article continues) Page 4 Bates Booster No.168, dated May 2000: "Wiley Lloyd Bates married twice in Rush County, Indiana, first to Elizabeth Lines and 2nd to SUSAH ZORNS." (The article continues) Some coverage of Wiley Lloyd Bates (or father John Bates) in article titled "Be on Lookout for Some Bates of Kentucky" in four consecutive editions of the Bates Booster newsletter: 1. Bates Booster No. 165, dated Aug. 1999 2. Bates Booster No. 166, dated Nov. 1999 3. Bates Booster No. 167, dated Feb. 1999 4. Bates Booster No. 168, dated May. 2000

LIFTED FROM BATES GENEALOGY FORUM Re: Bates/Talbert of Halifax County, VA. Posted by: Wayne Witt Bates Date: May 17, 2000 at 06:10:10 In Reply to: Bates/Talbert of Halifax County, VA. by Ginny Tobin of 2955 FROM FILES OF THE BATES FAMILY OF OLD VIRGINIA http://www.halcyondays.com/bates.htm Click-on "How to Join" Bates Booster Newsletter No. 36, dated Sept. 1977, covers family of 7th generation Fleming Bates, the son of Rev. War Soldier James Bates of Halifax CoVA, descendant of immigrant John Bates (1598-1666) Two aspects stand out in the above coverage of the Fleming Bates family: 1. Two sons named James, the eldest and youngest. Namely, eldest Robert "James" Bates born 1833 and youngest "James" Flourney Bates born 1854. 2. Nine year Gap in births between twins (Abel & Cain) in 1845 and next child "James" Flourney Bates in 1854. Above analysis suggests that Catherine Talbert was widow and 2nd wife of Fleming Bates; and suggests that her maiden name was Flourney. Three Flourney names in 1850 census of Halifax CoVa 1. Louisa age 6 and Henry W. age 4 in household of Mary Love age 57. 2. Thomas S. age 37 Lawyer (appears to be boarder in home of John A. Scott age 29 Minister of Gospel)

Hi All, We have a homepage! Will be genealogy and pictures, eventually, but until I get it all figured out, it's two abbreviated family trees and "the kids". Check it out if you like at: http://www.geocities.com/county04747/Home.html Loreen

I have set up a Bates page at http://www.itsjudy.com/branches/ribates.htm There are no photos there presently. I will be happy to add a page for any state or unknown states for any photos. I will also set up a forum in conjunction with these Bates pages so you can post queries or offer suggestions as to who these photos are. This forum also offers a chat, so if people want to get together and chat they can. Thanks Judy Research tools made to be used: Native American Links - http://www.itsjudy.com/nativelinks AccessGenealogy.com - http://www.accessgenealogy.com Discover Genealogy WebRings - http://www.accessgenealogy.com/rings

I once found a book in our local genealogy library regarding SC Marriages 1800-1820, in which is listed a James A BATES & Sarah BATES married 4 June 1807. I do not know if that is her maiden name, married name or both. A Moses Waddell is listed as either the bondsman or the minister. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Sorry, I cannot remember the County if one was listed, and I have not been able to find the book again. I am just trying to find or eliminate "possibilities". Marlene Bates Johnson empori6573@aol.com

On 7 May Frances Robinson wrote: " Your mention of your Bates relatives being tall struck a chord with me. I am looking for more information about my great grandmother Almira Bates Lothrop born July 31, 1829, either "near Oswego, New York" or in Quebec. Wherever she was born, she was, according to my father, 6 feet tall. I have to imagine that was good size for a woman in her day. One piece of family lore that I have been trying to track down is that she was related to Martin Van Buren Bates, the "Kentucky Giant" who was over 7 feet tall and toured with the circus. --Frances" Frances, we had corresponded before, but I'll repeat what I had passed to you in case anyone else might lock on to the Oswego NY connection. Have you had any more success connecting your line with mine since we last corresponded? .... from 3 Dec 99 e-mail: Your Almira Bates Lothrop sounds suspiciously like she could have been a niece of my Almira BATES (b. abt 1800 Brimfield, MA, m. abt 1820 Thomas Shaff in Hounsfield, Jefferson Co, NY, d. 1880 Brodhead, Green Co WI). Shortly after Almira and Thomas married, they moved to Hannibal, Oswego Co, NY and had at least four children there between 1822 and 1832 (Samuel Shaff, b. Jul 14, 1822; Josiah A.Shaff, b. 1827; Rebecca Shaff, b. Aug 3 1829; and Lorenzo Dow Shaff, b. Jul 22, 1832) before moving to Lake Township, Milwaukee Co WI in 1835. Thomas Shaff drowned the next year, Almira remarried a neighbor John Douglass in 1838, moved to Decatur, Green Co WI in 1853 and then to Spring Grove, Green Co WI the following year. Almira BATES' parents were Samuel BATES (b. Feb 18, 1773 Brimfield, MA, d. Feb 13,1813 Hounsfield, Jefferson Co NY) and Sally Houghton (b.Jan 16,1780 Wales, MA). They married in Wales, MA Jan 13 1779 and had the following children in addition to Almira: Moses Merrick BATES (b. Jul 10, 1801 Brimfield, MA); Asa BATES (b. 1807 Hounsfield, NY); and Mary BATES (b. Apr 17, 1811 Hounsfield NY). Moses Merrick BATES had a daughter named Almira in 1839 in Hounsfield. I don't have Asa's wife's name, but have info from Jefferson Co Bates descendents that Asa moved to WI and lived with his sister Almira BATES after his wife died. Don't know anything about Mary BATES. Have much more info on the ancestry of Samuel BATES and Sally HOUGHTON if you think they might have been the grandparents of your Almira. Where in WI did your Almira Bates Lothrop end up? Wayne Olsen Bonney Lake, WA

One more thought, Judy: How about mirroring each other's Bates photo sites, i.e., I'll copy yours and you copy mine? I have already given the Name and Password for my site to everyone on Bates Rootsweb at this time. Anyway, I like that idea (it is good backup). Let's finalize how we are going to do this next weekend (when finals are over!!). Thanks again, Barbara katsyblb@aol.com ========================================================== Subj: [BATES-L] Re: Bates Pictures Date: 5/7/00 3:09:45 PM Central Daylight Time From: jwhite@acmnet.net (jwhite) To: BATES-L@rootsweb.com As soon as the email went, I noticed what was in the subject line. What I offered was a Bates Photo page. Any one who would like to send photo's to me at judy@itsjudy.com I will set up pages for each Bates line by state. I would like pictures scanned at 300 resolutions, size doesn't matter as I will crop to the appropriate page size. If you would like to view my home pages they are at http://www.itsjudy.com this is just so you can see if you would like your family among my pages. LOL. Judy Research tools made to be used: Native American Links - http://www.itsjudy.com/nativelinks AccessGenealogy.com - http://www.accessgenealogy.com Discover Genealogy WebRings - http://www.accessgenealogy.com/rings