I am looking for ANY info on the following family, where did they come from?, is there anyone else who has interest in this family? - They came to America about 1884-1889 George Henry BATES aka Henry George Bates b. 12 May 1855 England m. Harriet LLOYD abt. 1879 England d. 26 Sept. 1933 E. Taylor, Cambria Co, PA buried in Prospect Cemetery, Portage, Cambria Co, PA He is the son of George Bates Harriet Lloyd b. Sept. 1861 England d. 14 Aug. 1930 Verdun, France - visiting her son's grave, also a Gold Star Mother buried at Prospect Cemetery, Portage, Cambria Co, PA Children of George and Harriet Bates - 1. Matilda "Tilly" Bates b. March 1880 England m. Joseph BENNETT 1901 Cambria Co, PA d. 10 Dec 1965 E. Taylor, Cambria Co, PA buried at Prospect Cemetery, Portage, PA 2. Edith Bates b. 18 March 1883 England m. Alfred TANSLEY abt 1901 d. 31 March 1970 Detroit, Wayne Co, MI buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, Detroit, MI 3. John Bates b. July 1886 England or PA m. ?Pearl HELSEL? 1907 Cambria Co, PA d. 15 Oct 1918 Argonne, France (WWI) 4. Annie Bates aka Mary b. June 1890 PA m. Frederick VANDEMERGLE 1909 Cambria Co, PA d. 31 Dec 1932 Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co, MI 5. Emily Bates b. Sept. 1892 PA m. William MAUK 1912 Cambria Co, PA d. ? 6. Rosanna Bates b. 16 May 1896 Portage, Cambria Co, PA m. Dave MORIATY (spelling could be wrong) d. Nov. 1996 MI 7. Harriet Bates b. 6 Dec 1898 Portage, Cabmria Co, PA m. Josehp Leo KEENAN d. 14 Dec 1976 MI? 8. Arther Bates b. 27 August 1901 Portage, Cambria Co, PA d. Sept. 1929 Portage, Cambria Co, PA 9. Joseph Bates b. 1902 PA? m. ? d. ?1968? ANY help is VERY helpful - Marta Silverman Norton Longmont, Colorado, USA [email protected]

Hi List, I am looking for information on the descendents. Richard Bates b abt 1825 LivingstonCo, NY, md Marah Rebecca Dart,king, oliver,Bates b 1830 place unkown. Richard was Marah's third spouse. they had: Mary Miranda Bates Cameron, Clarrissa Amelia Bates , Arthur Rose Melissa Bates (1)Belknap (2)Losey (3) Howard, Ellen Matilda Bates DeFord (my grandmother) For more inforomation <http://lhnet.simplenet.com/ged2/fgs/surnames.htm> Howard E. DeFord <[email protected]> owner

Hi, I would like to correspond with anyone who has information about Bates from Mass. who may have settled in Maine. . Regards, Gita Dyer

Would like to hear from anyone who has info on Mary Bates who married Simon Cameron in Cherokee County, Georgia on June 11, 1845

Here's the file that has the old Pattern naming conventions, taking a long time ago from The Source BBS. I think you hit it right on the noxe, AudeeG. Families do use maiden names as first or middle names for their offspring. Sometimes it followed a "Naming Pattern" in which the first born male was named for his father's father etc including a sequence for the female children. (I have forgotten the patterns. I once had it on a sheet hanging on my monitor but it faded so much it became useless.) In my own family, I had an aunt of the Bates surname who married a Gentry. One of their sons was christened Bates Gentry. In another case. I did not know the maiden name of a great-great grandmother Robinson. One day I discovered her burial place in Mississippi and beside her was buried a young man named Richmond Love Robinson. It had a familiar ring so I looked at the descendant children of the next two generations. In one generation there was a Sadie Love Bates. In the next their was a Rema Love Bates. It didn't take much mulling over to decide that great-great grandmother Robinson's maiden name was Love. According to the census of 1850, she was born in SC. Someday I hope to find a nest of Loves in SC who may be her family. Hang in there and keep looking. You'll find your answer, sometime when you least expect it. Jack Bates [email protected] <Prodigy Distribution List> CC: JSWV61A --BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com-- << End of Forwarded message >> An Old Naming Pattern contributed by James R Hughes Sat Aug 03 1991 ------------------------------- The First Son was named after The Father's Father, The Second Son after The Mother's Father, The Third Son after The Father. The Fourth Son after the Father's Eldest Brother. The First Daughter after the Mother's Mother, The Second Daughter after the Father's Mother, The Third Daughter after the Mother, The Fourth Daughter after the Mother's Eldest Sister. ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ This file is from The Source of Magic, Ridgefield CT ³ ³ 203-431-4687, source for genealogy, radio, & Windows ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ 

OOPS! << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> From: Mail Delivery Subs Subject: Internet Message Date: 06/06 Time: 01:27 AM Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON> Received: from localhost (localhost) by pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with internal id BAA21084; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:35 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com" Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: roots.web.: host not found) Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com The original message was received at Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:34 -0400 from mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <[email protected]> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 <[email protected]>... Host unknown (Name server: roots.web.: host not found) --BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com Received-From-MTA: dns; mime4.prodigy.com Arrival-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:34 -0400 Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected] Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; roots.web Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:35 -0400 --BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254. 43]) by pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA52056; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:28:34 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA05280; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:25:55 -0400 Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: [email protected] (MR JACK BATES) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:25:55, -0500 To: [email protected] cc: [email protected] Subject: BATES/FLEMMING/GARRETSON I think you hit it right on the noxe, AudeeG. Families do use maiden names as first or middle names for their offspring. Sometimes it followed a "Naming Pattern" in which the first born male was named for his father's father etc including a sequence for the female children. (I have forgotten the patterns. I once had it on a sheet hanging on my monitor but it faded so much it became useless.) In my own family, I had an aunt of the Bates surname who married a Gentry. One of their sons was christened Bates Gentry. In another case. I did not know the maiden name of a great-great grandmother Robinson. One day I discovered her burial place in Mississippi and beside her was buried a young man named Richmond Love Robinson. It had a familiar ring so I looked at the descendant children of the next two generations. In one generation there was a Sadie Love Bates. In the next their was a Rema Love Bates. It didn't take much mulling over to decide that great-great grandmother Robinson's maiden name was Love. According to the census of 1850, she was born in SC. Someday I hope to find a nest of Loves in SC who may be her family. Hang in there and keep looking. You'll find your answer, sometime when you least expect it. Jack Bates [email protected] <Prodigy Distribution List> CC: JSWV61A --BAA21084.897110915/pimaia2y-ext.prodigy.com-- << End of Forwarded message >>

Im searching for any info on Robelia H. Bates Grant who was born December 25, 1835 and died March 17, 1901 at Jonesboro, TX- Weavers Chapel. She married Cullen E. Grant b, November 07, 1831 in Hancock Co. Georgia d. November 09, 1866. They married on December 08, 1850 in Greene Co., Georgia. They had: Balerma Blendon Grant b. 1851 d. 1856 Matthew Alonzo Grant b. May 25, 1853 d. 1855 Edward Arthur Grant b. November 17, 1854 Cincinnatus Seymour Grant b. September 04, 1856 d. 1857 Havilla Catherine Grant b. January 14, 1858 Cullen Eugene Grant b. May 10, 1860 As you can see only 3 of her children survived childhood.. Must of been so horrible to loose 3 children within 3 yrs, Please visit my web site. I dont have any information on bates but have 1000's more Surnames listed and information. Amy grant <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/4561/">grantweb </A>

MY GGF IS: William "BATES" GARRETSON b.1847 in Jefferson Co. Ohio m/ Carrie L. HAYNES. father is Joseph and gf in John of PA. Knowing that families uses mother and grandmother's maiden names, my quest is for a BATES/GARRETSON connection. Or did his parents just like the name??? In reviewing Hinshaw's book, I find a great deal of info of the above names in the same areas of Quaker families. In the early census index of Jefferson Co., there are many BATES & GARRETSONs and a sprinkling of FLEMINGs. Any and all help will be appreciated Audrey

I am looking for information on Fleming Bates who married Catherine Talbot in Halifax County, VA. Catherine had several children by a previous marriage and I do not know her maiden name. Fleming and Catherine had a son James Flournoy Bates who was my great grandfather. The people at Bates Family of Old Virginia say that Fleming and Catherine were never married and Fleming had a previous marriage with several children. These children are listed as Talbots in the 1850 census but in the 1860 census they are listed as Bates. Ginny Tobin - [email protected]

Linda, I am not a descendant of Fleming, but i need some help with him and cronies. My ggggrmo Margaret Bates married a guy named Alexander Clark. They appeared in old Abbeville District about 1779, about the time, or shortly before the arrival of Stephen and Fleming Bates. Altho Stephen died in 1788, he and Fleming were thick as thieves with my grandpaw Alex. Clark. I have been studying Alex for 30 years and cant find anything about him. The repetion of names, similarities, etc, indicate that my Margaret Bates HAS to be related to Fleming and in some way. The Old Bates Family of Virginia has assured me that she is not, but I cant buy that yet. Alex and Margaret had a daughter, Elizabeth, b.19 Dec 1790 who married Robert Foster Jr. on 28 Dec 1802. Then Fleming died in 1804, and Alex Clark Jr. went to Illinois in 1805 and Alex Clark Sr. drops off the records in Abbeville. wha happened? Any suggestions appreciated. renwick bradley

From: Earl R. Bates 523 S. Terry Dr. Frontenac, KS 66763-4019 [email protected] I am a descendent of John Bates (1599-1666) who immigrated to Virginia in 1623. ==================================================== First Generation -------------------------------------------------- 1. Fleming Bates 6. Son of James M. Bates 5 & Winifred Hix. Born 22 Nov 1747 in Goochland Co., VA. Died 22 Nov 1804 in Abbeville, South Carolina. He married Margaret McCarter, daughter of Moses McCarter & Catren (_______) McCarter, 15 Feb 1778 in 96 And Abbeville Dist., SC. Born Circa 1760 in Abbieville Dist. SC. Died 3 Jul 1841. They had the following children: 2 i. John McCarter Bates Sr 7 3 ii. Catherine H. Bates 4 iii. Sarah G. Bates 7 5 iv. Anna C. Bates 6 v. Elizabeth F. Bates Second Generation -------------------------------------------------- 2. John McCarter Bates Sr 7. Son of Fleming Bates 6 & Margaret McCarter. Born 30 Jan 1798 in VA. He married Elizabeth Patton, 24 Aug 1824 in VA. Born 24 Dec 1804. They had the following children: 7 i. Margaret Lydia Bates 8 ii. John McCarter Bates Jr. 9 iii. Martha Elizabeth Bates 10 iv. Sarah Ann Bates 11 v. Samuel Patton Bates 12 vi. Robert Fleming Bates 8 13 vii. James Carson Bates 14 viii. Joseph Tillmon Bates 15 ix. Eugene Levert Bates 16 x. Benjamin Brewer Bates 17 xi. Stephen Preston Bates 18 xii. Mary Catherine Bates 19 xiii. Mariah Vaughn Bates 20 xiv. Joseph Carson Bates 21 xv. Arthur Patton Bates 22 xvi. James Knox Bates 3. Catherine H. Bates. Daughter of Fleming Bates 6 & Margaret McCarter. Born Circa 1784. She married John Spence, 4 Oct 1804 in VA. 4. Sarah G. Bates 7. Daughter of Fleming Bates 6 & Margaret McCarter. Born Circa 1780. She married James A. Bates 7, 4 Jun 1797 in VA. 5. Anna C. Bates. Daughter of Fleming Bates 6 & Margaret McCarter. Born Circa 1790. She married William Brewer, 22 Nov 1810 in VA. 6. Elizabeth F. Bates. Daughter of Fleming Bates 6 & Margaret McCarter. Born Circa 1800. Died 27 Mar 1856. She married Needham Watkins, 3 Feb 1820 in VA. Third Generation -------------------------------------------------- 7. Margaret Lydia Bates. Daughter of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 10 Jun 1825. 8. John McCarter Bates Jr. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 4 Aug 1826 in VA. Died 30 Dec 1862. 9. Martha Elizabeth Bates. Daughter of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 13 Dec 1826 in VA. 10. Sarah Ann Bates. Daughter of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 26 Jan 1829 in VA. 11. Samuel Patton Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 6 Jul 1831 in VA. Died 6 Sep 1854. He married Lydia Holmes. Died 27 Jan 1843. 12. Robert Fleming Bates 8. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 4 Mar 1833 in VA. 13. James Carson Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 24 Mar 1835 in VA. 14. Joseph Tillmon Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 29 Sep 1836 in VA. 15. Eugene Levert Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 11 Apr 1838 in VA. 16. Benjamin Brewer Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 5 Jul 1839 in VA. Died 10 Mar 1862. 17. Stephen Preston Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 27 Oct 1840 in VA. 18. Mary Catherine Bates. Daughter of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 4 Mar 1842 in VA. 19. Mariah Vaughn Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 18 Feb 1844 in VA. 20. Joseph Carson Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 24 Sep 1845 in VA. 21. Arthur Patton Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 24 Sep 1847 in VA. 22. James Knox Bates. Son of John McCarter Bates Sr 7 & Elizabeth Patton. Born 6 Apr 1850 in VA. > > Subject: Fleming Bates and Margaret McCarter > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:11:44 -0600 > From: "Don & Linda Essary" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I would like to exchange information with other descendants of Fleming > Bates( 22 Nov 1747-22 June 1804), son of James Bates and Winifred Hix, and > Margaret McCarter (2 Jan 1763-3 July 1841), dau. of Moses and Catren > McCarter. > > Linda Betts Essary > 732 S. Roosevelt Road AF > Floyd, NM 88118 > [email protected]

I would like to exchange information with other descendants of Fleming Bates( 22 Nov 1747-22 June 1804), son of James Bates and Winifred Hix, and Margaret McCarter (2 Jan 1763-3 July 1841), dau. of Moses and Catren McCarter. Linda Betts Essary 732 S. Roosevelt Road AF Floyd, NM 88118 [email protected]

Would anyone who has them please post cemetery records for Cherokee Co. BATES family members? We are just beginning research in Cherokee Co., GA and would appreciate information and identification of Bates families there in 1850. We are, of course, especially interested in FM Bates, but assume some of the others listed below are related to him. Listing from Genweb re BATES 1850 census, heads of household in Cherokee Co., GA BATES F. M. 40 (age) GA (birthplace) 72 (household number) (I think he is our ancestor) Others listed: BATES George V. 30 GA 1913 BATES George V. 30 SC 1880 BATES Isaac 35 VA 1685 BATES J.M. 39 SC 171 BATES Jesse 52 VA 1219 BATES John R. 37 SC 583 BATES Methia 47 SC 608 BATES S.C. 24 SC 142 BATES Stephen 74 VA 167 BATES Thomas J. SC 714 BATES William F. SC 512

I think that the FM 11 M here is the Francis Marion Bates who is our ancestor. Might anyone on the list have any information about this family or any member of it? Info from 1850 census Cherokee County, Georgia: Francis Marion Bates 40M, S 32F, GW 15M, LJ 14M, AJ 12M, FM 11M, (Francis Marion BATES b @ 1839, who later moved to AR?) NL 9M, J?, MT 8M, RA 7F, JKP 6M, JHT 5M, MK 6Mo F

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Hi, I am new to the Bates list and am searching for information on John BATES b. 1718 in Rhode Island and his son Reuben BATES b. 1757 in Rhode Island. I have John BATES wife listed as Experience BRAGG. I have some descendancy and am looking for ancestors on John. Thanks in advance for any help. Lisa Bishop ([email protected])

I have some information about one of the sources I listed from my previous message. The "Register" is the published proceedings of the New England Historical and Genealogical Society (NEHGS). I recently returned from a visit in Boston and joined that society. The library is fantastic which was the reason I could add four new families to my ancestral line back to the first immigrant or earlier. What I'd like to share with the Bates mail list is that I purchased the complete publication of the Register on CD-ROM. Although I haven't done much research with it (it is in FTM format and restricts queries to a specific name over 8 CD-ROM disks), I will be researching the Bates name and, of course, include my finds here. Let me get comfortable with the "new toy" and I'll do look up's for those New England Bate/Bates that are available. Bob Jenkins On 2 May 98 at 18:52, [email protected] I wrote: > I came across the following which may be of some importance to the Bates > families. It adds some information to what I've previous known and lists > two (rather cryptic) sources for additional information. <<<previous data deleted>>> > [These entries show the English home of Clement Bates or Bate who > came to New England in 1635 and settled at Hingham > (REGISTER, vol 14, p. 305), and give information about his children > which supplements that given in Water's Gleanings, vol 2, p. 1308. ....

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <[email protected]> Subject: Online: The New Search Engine Server Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:01:00 -0700 From: Brian Leverich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] [ My apologies to the folks who have multiple or incorrect subscriptions to LISTOWNERS-ANNOUNCE; I'll get that subscription list cleaned up as soon as I can. -B ] [ This is a public announcement -- it may be forwarded to any appropriate audience. -B ] The new search engine server is now online and can operate at the speed of a full T1 connection. Courtesy of hacks by Dale Schneider, you can search the USGenWeb Archives, now with *headlines* and *updated* to within the last 24 hours, at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm Courtesy of hacks by Karen Isaacson, you can search the archives of any mailing list (except those withdrawn by the listowner), now with nicer *formats* and *updated* to within the last 24 hours, at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl I'd also like to explicitly thank the folks who provided the resources that have made this new facility possible: o RootsWeb's Patrons, Donors, Sponsors, and Members. o Palladium Interactive, developers of the Ultimate Family Tree software for genealogists. Folks interested in helping RootsWeb provide new facilities can become Members by using the Web form at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html By the way, the next server we'll be bringing online will be a box dedicated to supporting Marc Nozell's HTMLized versions of the mailing list archives. We should have that box online within 48 hours, though it's reasonable to expect Marc to need a little time after that to get his software installed. (: Projects after that include a dedicated IRC server, upgrading the mail hub, upgrading the main Web server, building a NT-based FrontPage server, bringing a "dirtylists" list server online, and bringing a third ordinary list server online. [ The "dirtylists" server is for the big, rarely used announcement lists. We've developed a number of those things with 5,000 to 300,000 subscribers, and every time a post drops we kick the daylights out of the list server with hundreds or even thousands of bounces. We need a specially tuned box to handle these turkeys. ] No rest for the wicked, I suppose ... Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 [email protected] Kay Griffin Snow [email protected] ICQ #9483193 EmailExpress: [email protected] Forever Searchin ^~^~)(^~^~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BLACKBURN - GRIFFIN - HARVEY - JONES- O'NEAL - SHALLINGTON - WATSON .

Would like to know if R. Glenn York has a William Pitt Bates or Nelson Bates in his records. I do not have a city in either state for these elusive two.