Hi Clive, I really wasn't expecting any positive feedback on this one but this is very encouraging. It's not every day that one makes contact with a common 10g. grandson or daughter! In fact if this pedigree is kosher then John BARTON is also the 10g. grandfather of my wife, who too was born in Kent. The trouble is that I inherited most of it from a third party who in turn had done the same. So it looks as if it has been doing the rounds. Typically it doesn't contain any references so each of the links has to be checked from original records which I haven't done. I would imagine that a large part has been extracted from the Hadlow Parish Registers. The British VRI contains 329 baptisms and 52 marriages for BARTON in Hadlow from 1558 from both PRs and BTs but the coverage is incomplete. I have not looked at much of this yet but the odd dip confirms the data I have with some minor discrepancies. It enabled me to pick up the illegitimate birth of Solomon Barton DUDDY to Macy DUDDY. No father's name given but guess who! His birth would have been subsequently legitimised by his parents' shotgun marriage so would he have changed his name to Solomon Barton BARTON?? Yes, Solomon was the 7th of 13 children of Solomon BARTON and Elizabeth BEAUMONT. He was baptised 23 Oct 1774, Hadlow, and married Mac(e)y or Mary DUD(D)Y [depending on source] 17 Jun 1798, Hadlow. Just to whet the appetite here are two generations:- (1) 1 Solomon BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 23 October 1774, Hadlow, Kent Bapt: 23 October 1774, Hadlow, Kent Death: 1826, Brabourne, Kent Occ: Collar Maker (1815) Father: Solomon BARTON (<1740-<1797) Mother: Elizabeth BEAUMONT (1743-1797) Spouse: Macy or Mary DUDDY Birth: circa 1778 Death: circa 1850, Brabourne, Kent Burial: Smeeth, Kent Marr: 17 June 1798, Hadlow, Kent Children: Solomon Barton (<1798-) Fanny (<1800-) William (<1803-) Henry (ca1805-) Thomas (<1807-) Stephen (<1809-<1883) Elizabeth (1815-1863) Betty (2) 1.1 Solomon Barton BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 18 March 1798, Hadlow, Kent Bapt: 18 March 1798, Hadlow, Kent (2) 1.2 Fanny BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 31 August 1800, Hadlow, Kent Bapt: 31 August 1800, Hadlow, Kent (2) 1.3 William BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 20 March 1803, Hadlow, Kent Bapt: 20 March 1803, Hadlow, Kent (2) 1.4 Henry BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: circa 1805 Bapt: 3 November 1805, HADLOW, KENT, UK (2) 1.5 Thomas BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 23 August 1807 Bapt: 23 August 1807, Hadlow, Kent (2) 1.6 Stephen BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: before 25 December 1809, Hadlow, Kent Bapt: 25 December 1809, Hadlow, Kent Death: before 13 April 1883, Smeeth, Kent Burial: 13 April 1883, Parish Church, Smeeth, Kent Occ: Agricultural Labourer (1841-1865) Spouse: Rebecca BRANN Birth: before 27 January 1811, Smeeth, Kent Bapt: 27 January 1811, Smeeth, Kent Death: 20 September 1896, Smeeth, Kent Burial: 20 September 1896, Parish Church, Smeeth, Kent Marr: 16 October 1830, Brabourne, Kent Children: Eliza (<1832-) Stephen (<1834->1871) Elizabeth (1834-) Anne (<1836-) Walter M. (<1840-) Harriet (1841-) George (1844-) William (1845-<1905) Henry (1846-) Sarah Ann (1850-) Edward (<1851-) Ellen Rebecca (<1854-) (2) 1.7 Elizabeth BARTON - -------------------------------------- Birth: 14 May 1815, Brabourne, Kent Bapt: 11 June 1815, Smeeth, Kent Death: 14 May 1863, Hamstreet, Kent Burial: Not located Spouse: Frederick SCOTT Birth: circa January 1813, Hothfield, Kent Bapt: 17 January 1813, St Margaret's Church, Hothfield, Kent Death: 5 October 1875, Edgewood, Illinois Burial: 6 October 1875 Occ: Tile Maker (1838); Farm Labourer (1851/61 Cens); Horse Breeder (USA) Father: William SCOTT (<1784-) Mother: Elizabeth BENNETT (>1789-) Marr: 12 June 1837, St Matthew's Church, Warehorne, Kent Children: Elizabeth (1838-) John Frederick (1840-1904) Henry ("Harry") Charles (1841-1919) William ("Will", later "Bill") (1843-1904) Charles ("Charley") (1845-1903) Harriet Mercy (1847-1913) Eliza (1848-1893) Jane (1851-<) Frederick Thomas (Adopted) (1856-1921) (2) 1.8 Betty BARTON - -------------------------------------- Note that, like William SHAKESPEARE, Elizabeth died on her birthday. > perhaps Elizabeth (b. 1815?) was a later child who has not been listed. I > must say, the reference to Solomon and Mary Duddy are written on the side in > a hand written note, and the writing is a bit unclear. Apparently the family moved from Hadlow to Brabourne some time between 1809 and 1815 so this would account for Elizabeth being missing from the Hadlow pedigree. The interval between Stephen and Elizabeth also suggests that there may have been one or two more children as yet unaccounted for. I will send you and any other applicants the full report off list. Let me know if you can import a GEDCOM file. I should be interested to know from whom you descend! Best wishes, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Collins <collins@pcug.org.au> To: <BARTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [BARTON-L] BARTONs of Hadfield, Kent, England > Hi Michael, > > John Barton the Elder (married to Agnes Holte) was my 10g. grandfather if > the information which I have is correct. I have a photo-copy of a Barton > tree which has a Solomon Barton (b. 1774) married to Mary Duddy (17.6.1798). > The children are listed as Fanny (b. 1800), William(?) (b. 1803), Henry (b. > 1805), Thomas (b. 1807) and Stephen(?) (b. 1809). It does not go further, so > perhaps Elizabeth (b. 1815?) was a later child who has not been listed. I > must say, the reference to Solomon and Mary Duddy are written on the side in > a hand written note, and the writing is a bit unclear. > > There are a large number of Bartons on this tree, back to John the Elder. I > got this copy from a Mrs Pam Latter, and it is apparently part of a larger > chart, but the writing is not very clear in places. > > I too would like to trace back earlier than John Barton, and would also like > to add side branches to my growing family tree. I am trying to get all this > information organised but it takes a great deal of time. I would certainly > be interested in any information you have on your branch of the Barton > family and connections, and could send you the information which I have, > though I may have to do a bit of organising first. > > Best Regards, > > Clive Collins > 6th January 2000 > > > At 12:34 05/01/2000 -0000, you wrote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >I'm a new subscriber and I'm hoping that some of you have BARTON interests > >in the county of Kent, England. > > > >My BARTON direct line ended when Elizabeth BARTON married Frederick SCOTT in > >1837 in Warehorne, Kent. > > > >[After her death in 1863 Frederick with four of their sons emigrated to the > >USA in 1871 and settled in Effingham Co., Illinois. In 1879 two of the > >brothers set up the first commercial ice cream factory in Kansas (in Topeka) > >and it was to remain in business for the next 100 years.] > > > >Elizabeth was born in 1815 in Brabourne, Kent, daughter of Solomon BARTON > >and Macey DUDDY. Solomon was born in Hadlow, Kent and I have all his > >paternal line living in Hadlow back to Elizabeth's 6g. grandfather John > >BARTON The Elder (m. Agnes HOLTE) born about 1500. > > > >Obviously I would like to get back further, though it's getting difficult > >now, but I would also like to flesh out more of the side branches. So does > >anyone have any connections? > > > >Michael Sprackling, > >Birkenhead, > >Merseyside, > >England. > > > > > >==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > >All messages posted to this mailing list are the property of their writers. > >Please obtain permission from all parties before forwarding or publishing > >any message from this list. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > C.D.N. Collins > GPO Box 2972 > Canberra, ACT 2601 > AUSTRALIA > collins@pcug.org.au > > > ______________________________