Jim, Thank you for your information. Would you be willing to share your old family letter with us? It must be interesting. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barton <jcbarto1@ix.netcom.com> To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com <BARTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: February 09, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [BARTON-L] Rufus & Marmaduke BARTON >Ed, > >McCracken wrote that there is no evidence that Roger was a brother of Rufus and/or Marmaduke. > >Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote, "The Descendants of Solomon Barton of Dutchess County, New York, >and Monkton, Vermont," published in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 1928. Solomon >Barton is a descendant of Roger Barton of Westchester County, and this piece is mentioned in >McCracken's article. > >Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote the following in his 1928 article. > >"It has been stated that the original ancestor in America of Solomon Barton was Edward Barton, a >sea-captain, who brought his family from England and settled in the Barbadoes Islands. No printed >record of this has been located, although it is said to exist in the Barbadoes. The same uncertain >source is responsible for the statement that two sons of Edward, namely Roger and Rufus came to the >Island of Manhattan about 1641 from Barbadoes. Rufus, very shortly afterwards went into the English >colony at Providence, R.I., and was the founder of the Barton family of that section. Roger settled >amongst the Dutch and in August, 1642, leased land of the Reverend Everardus Bogardus, ..." > >Thus the Solomon Barton article presents the story as heresay without any documentary evidence. From >1928 to 1952 no one found any evidence to support that, for McCracken wrote in the July 1952 issue: > >"Pending completion of investigations now in progress or in prospect, it would be dangerous to say >more about Roger Barton's English ancestry than to assert, with considerable conviction, that as yet >no evidence having the slightest validity has been presented by anyone." > >In the January, 1954, issue of the NEHGR, McCracken added a note of correction to his article, the >note having nothing to do with the ancestry of Roger Barton. He added nothing new from what existed >almost two years earlier with regard to Roger's ancestry. McCracken became Publisher and Editor of >The American Genealogist, but, to my knowledge, printed nothing that would change what was in the >1952/1953 article with regard to the ancestry of Roger Barton. > >To the contrary, McCracken points to a July 1951 article in The American Genealogist, vol. 27, no. >3, July 1951, pages 126-8, that it was Rufus Barton, not Roger, who signed a lease in 1642 with >Reverend Everardus Bogardus. Thus the first record of Roger Barton was in Brookhaven in 1662. That >further separates Roger from Rufus in both time and place. > >I will be very pleased and happy if someone can present documentary evidence that Roger, Rufus and >Marmaduke were brothers. I have an old family letter which has such a story, the three brothers, and >the source in my family takes us back almost 200 years, two-thirds of the way back to Roger Barton. >But having the story in any form from anyone is one thing. Providing evidence is another. We have >other family stories which can be proven to be incorrect. That's not unusual. > >It is fine to look for the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke. It is another thing to claim they are >brothers of Roger Barton of Westchester County. > >If anyone has evidence they were brothers, please let all of us know about it. > >Almost anyone can put almost anything into the FTM World Family Tree, or into the LDS Family >Ancestral Files, or into the IGI sheets. Those are not evidence. Those are unsupported repetitions >of the story. > >Jim >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >EDWARD SMITH wrote: > >> Can anyone assist me in determining the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke >> BARTON. They are brothers to Roger BARTON, who is referred to in George E. >> McCracken's material "Roger Barton of Westchester County, N.Y., and Some of >> His Earlier Descendants", published in the New England Historical and >> Genealogical Register, 1952. Any information will be greatly appreciated. >> My e-mail is < e.e.smith.com@worldnet.att.net > >> Ed Smith >> >> ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== >> No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves. > > > > >==== BARTON Mailing List ==== >Please visit the surname mailing list homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/barton.html >for information on this list, it's member's pages, queries and other helpful genealogy pages. > >