I have the booklet on the Oxford Bartons, showing from Edward on down. This is my line. I also have all of the IGI sheets for Bartons of MA. Glad to send you anything that you need. Dorothy Scott Muirhead@inebraska.com ---------- > From: Leo K. Barton <lbarton@wizzards.net> > To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BARTON-L] Bartons in Massachusetts & New York > Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:46 AM > > I am looking for a connection between the Edward Barton ca.1620-1671 at: > http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~pwbarton/barton/nindex.htm#sx > And the Barton' of New York. I also see that Towne is also listed in the index. Some believe that > Edward Barton had at least 3 brothers that came to America with him but settled in New York and > other parts of New England. Edwards grand son Samuel > married Hannah Bridges circa 1690. Hannah was born June 9, 1669 in Salem, Essex, MA. Hannah was > the daughter of > Edmond Bridges and Sarah Towne. Let me know if any of this > helps..........................................Leo Barton > > Sheila328@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm new to this list, so I'll give you all that I know and hope that someone > > will come up with a connection. > > > > The furthest back I can take my Barton line at the moment is to Daniel W. > > Barton (1788-1859), who was said to come from New York, and who died in Ware, > > MA. He married Vila Towne (1792-1858) from Massachusetts (I don't have a > > year for the marriage). They had nine children: > > > > Mary Anne (1811-1885) > > Silas Demey Kellogg (1813-1886) > > Hannah (1816-1818) > > Robert Loveland (1818-?) > > Eunice (1821-1840) > > Fannie (1823-1845) > > William F. (1825-1862) > > Charles B. (1830-1869) > > Andrew (1837-1839) > > > > Daniel apparently had a brother William (b. 1775)(I don't know where). > > > > Silas is my direct ancestor. He married Eliza Johnson (1811-1873), who was > > born in Moriah NY. They had seven children: > > > > Willard Allen (1838-1865) > > Henry Byron (1839-1911) > > Vila Mariah (1841-1926) > > Daniel Moody (1843-1913) > > Betsy Ann (1845-1846) > > Silas Abbott (1846-1914) > > Mary Elizabeth (1848-1869) > > > > They all stuck pretty close to Massachusetts (most are buried in Ware, MA). > > Silas A. was my great-great-grandfather, and I have a letter and a few notes > > in his hand. He was instrumental in founding the General Electric Company in > > Lynn, MA, and I believe his brother Henry worked for them in Schenectady NY, > > where he is buried. Vila taught at Smith College and never married. > > > > The only other historical point of interest comes from a letter written by an > > aged cousin to my great-grandmother (Silas's only child) when she was working > > on the family genealogy. In this letter in 1928 he said something to the > > effect that there was something irregular in the Barton history, and perhaps > > my great-grandmother did not want to probe too closely... (this after noting > > that someone in another family line had had to hurry up a wedding a little, > > according to the dates in the family bible!). > > > > While some of the above died young or unmarried, I know that some of them did > > marry, and I'm hoping there are descendants out there somewhere. Also, I'd > > like to take the line back from Daniel, but I'm not sure where to look. Any > > suggestions? > > > > Sheila Connolly > > > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > > No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves. > > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > Please support the Rootsweb Genealogical Cooperative by becoming a member, sponsor, or donor. For more information, visit Rootsweb at http://www.rootsweb.com

The Oxford Bartons are my line and I have a booklet showing all of the names dates and children. Clara Barton was of this family. She was born Clarissa Harlowe Barton. Let me know if I can fill anything in. I also have all of the IGI sheets for MA. Dorothy Scott Muirhead@inebraska.com ---------- > From: CMere85162@aol.com > To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BARTON-L] Bartons in Massachusetts & New York > Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:09 AM > > Hi Sheila we may actually be related If so it would have to go back to > William C. or before I have only been able to trace my line back as far as > about 1835 to a Stephen Barton who had a son Stephen R. Barton who in turn > had a daughter Clara Elizabeth Barton. Well I just recently uncovered some > paperwork and dates that revealed her marriage occured barely 6mos before my > Grandfather was born in 1915 and family legend was that they were so much in > love that they eloped. Their marriage lasted until her death in 1984 so they > were definately in love but that was not the reason for their hasty marriage. > > > > > JClara Mom > YMik 1s > t born Son > YACE 2nd Son ( Rat terrier) > > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send email to: > barton-l-request@rootsweb.com (for list mail) or barton-d-request@rootsweb (for digest mail) > with the body message of > UNSUBSCRIBE

On the NY IGI sheets for Barton I found Daniel born 1789/92 son of Peter Barton & Esther Howland. It looks like Peter also had a Jr. born 1797 and that Peter Sr. was the son of Caleb & Rose Palmer Barton and this Caleb was the son of Joseph & Abigail Lewis Barton born 1723/8. I can follow this back, have been off line for a few days. I can send you copies of the NY Bartons and I have all of the MA IGI sheets. Will get back to you. Dorothy Scott Muirhead@inebraska.com ---------- > From: Sheila328@aol.com > To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BARTON-L] Bartons in Massachusetts & New York > Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:15 AM > > I'm new to this list, so I'll give you all that I know and hope that someone > will come up with a connection. > > The furthest back I can take my Barton line at the moment is to Daniel W. > Barton (1788-1859), who was said to come from New York, and who died in Ware, > MA. He married Vila Towne (1792-1858) from Massachusetts (I don't have a > year for the marriage). They had nine children: > > Mary Anne (1811-1885) > Silas Demey Kellogg (1813-1886) > Hannah (1816-1818) > Robert Loveland (1818-?) > Eunice (1821-1840) > Fannie (1823-1845) > William F. (1825-1862) > Charles B. (1830-1869) > Andrew (1837-1839) > > Daniel apparently had a brother William (b. 1775)(I don't know where). > > Silas is my direct ancestor. He married Eliza Johnson (1811-1873), who was > born in Moriah NY. They had seven children: > > Willard Allen (1838-1865) > Henry Byron (1839-1911) > Vila Mariah (1841-1926) > Daniel Moody (1843-1913) > Betsy Ann (1845-1846) > Silas Abbott (1846-1914) > Mary Elizabeth (1848-1869) > > They all stuck pretty close to Massachusetts (most are buried in Ware, MA). > Silas A. was my great-great-grandfather, and I have a letter and a few notes > in his hand. He was instrumental in founding the General Electric Company in > Lynn, MA, and I believe his brother Henry worked for them in Schenectady NY, > where he is buried. Vila taught at Smith College and never married. > > The only other historical point of interest comes from a letter written by an > aged cousin to my great-grandmother (Silas's only child) when she was working > on the family genealogy. In this letter in 1928 he said something to the > effect that there was something irregular in the Barton history, and perhaps > my great-grandmother did not want to probe too closely... (this after noting > that someone in another family line had had to hurry up a wedding a little, > according to the dates in the family bible!). > > While some of the above died young or unmarried, I know that some of them did > marry, and I'm hoping there are descendants out there somewhere. Also, I'd > like to take the line back from Daniel, but I'm not sure where to look. Any > suggestions? > > Sheila Connolly > > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves.

Ok, now how is the Rufus line related to the decendants of Edward? There is still no proof that Rufus was son of Edward to my knowledge. Unless that Edward and Rufus were brothers. What are Edwards b & d dates in relation to Rufus b date? I still believe in the family lore until someone can document. My original family oral history says four brothers came from Holland to New Amsterdam, and then very shortly to New England. Rufus to RI, others to Mass, Maine. and no location of the fourth. THat could have been Roger who stayed in NY according to recent documents. No family lore mentions the Barbadoes. I'm glad you finally found your line. I know I have my direct line back to Rufus. They all stayed on the original farm down to my ggfather, and he was up Division Street about 7 miles. Then moved to my present location in 1857.In a family that had such long livers, oral history dosen't get changed much. My ggfather's father was born in 1785. Puts it back there quickly, right? I really wish we could document Rufus parentage. that might unravel a bunch of stuff. Also the wide spread of the ages of the children leads to overlaping of generations. Only time will tell. Hope you are well, and coping with your daily tasks. God Bless. Betsey

I am looking for a connection between the Edward Barton ca.1620-1671 at: http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~pwbarton/barton/nindex.htm#sx And the Barton' of New York. I also see that Towne is also listed in the index. Some believe that Edward Barton had at least 3 brothers that came to America with him but settled in New York and other parts of New England. Edwards grand son Samuel married Hannah Bridges circa 1690. Hannah was born June 9, 1669 in Salem, Essex, MA. Hannah was the daughter of Edmond Bridges and Sarah Towne. Let me know if any of this helps..........................................Leo Barton Sheila328@aol.com wrote: > I'm new to this list, so I'll give you all that I know and hope that someone > will come up with a connection. > > The furthest back I can take my Barton line at the moment is to Daniel W. > Barton (1788-1859), who was said to come from New York, and who died in Ware, > MA. He married Vila Towne (1792-1858) from Massachusetts (I don't have a > year for the marriage). They had nine children: > > Mary Anne (1811-1885) > Silas Demey Kellogg (1813-1886) > Hannah (1816-1818) > Robert Loveland (1818-?) > Eunice (1821-1840) > Fannie (1823-1845) > William F. (1825-1862) > Charles B. (1830-1869) > Andrew (1837-1839) > > Daniel apparently had a brother William (b. 1775)(I don't know where). > > Silas is my direct ancestor. He married Eliza Johnson (1811-1873), who was > born in Moriah NY. They had seven children: > > Willard Allen (1838-1865) > Henry Byron (1839-1911) > Vila Mariah (1841-1926) > Daniel Moody (1843-1913) > Betsy Ann (1845-1846) > Silas Abbott (1846-1914) > Mary Elizabeth (1848-1869) > > They all stuck pretty close to Massachusetts (most are buried in Ware, MA). > Silas A. was my great-great-grandfather, and I have a letter and a few notes > in his hand. He was instrumental in founding the General Electric Company in > Lynn, MA, and I believe his brother Henry worked for them in Schenectady NY, > where he is buried. Vila taught at Smith College and never married. > > The only other historical point of interest comes from a letter written by an > aged cousin to my great-grandmother (Silas's only child) when she was working > on the family genealogy. In this letter in 1928 he said something to the > effect that there was something irregular in the Barton history, and perhaps > my great-grandmother did not want to probe too closely... (this after noting > that someone in another family line had had to hurry up a wedding a little, > according to the dates in the family bible!). > > While some of the above died young or unmarried, I know that some of them did > marry, and I'm hoping there are descendants out there somewhere. Also, I'd > like to take the line back from Daniel, but I'm not sure where to look. Any > suggestions? > > Sheila Connolly > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves.

Hi Sheila we may actually be related If so it would have to go back to William C. or before I have only been able to trace my line back as far as about 1835 to a Stephen Barton who had a son Stephen R. Barton who in turn had a daughter Clara Elizabeth Barton. Well I just recently uncovered some paperwork and dates that revealed her marriage occured barely 6mos before my Grandfather was born in 1915 and family legend was that they were so much in love that they eloped. Their marriage lasted until her death in 1984 so they were definately in love but that was not the reason for their hasty marriage. JClara Mom YMik 1s t born Son YACE 2nd Son ( Rat terrier)

I'm new to this list, so I'll give you all that I know and hope that someone will come up with a connection. The furthest back I can take my Barton line at the moment is to Daniel W. Barton (1788-1859), who was said to come from New York, and who died in Ware, MA. He married Vila Towne (1792-1858) from Massachusetts (I don't have a year for the marriage). They had nine children: Mary Anne (1811-1885) Silas Demey Kellogg (1813-1886) Hannah (1816-1818) Robert Loveland (1818-?) Eunice (1821-1840) Fannie (1823-1845) William F. (1825-1862) Charles B. (1830-1869) Andrew (1837-1839) Daniel apparently had a brother William (b. 1775)(I don't know where). Silas is my direct ancestor. He married Eliza Johnson (1811-1873), who was born in Moriah NY. They had seven children: Willard Allen (1838-1865) Henry Byron (1839-1911) Vila Mariah (1841-1926) Daniel Moody (1843-1913) Betsy Ann (1845-1846) Silas Abbott (1846-1914) Mary Elizabeth (1848-1869) They all stuck pretty close to Massachusetts (most are buried in Ware, MA). Silas A. was my great-great-grandfather, and I have a letter and a few notes in his hand. He was instrumental in founding the General Electric Company in Lynn, MA, and I believe his brother Henry worked for them in Schenectady NY, where he is buried. Vila taught at Smith College and never married. The only other historical point of interest comes from a letter written by an aged cousin to my great-grandmother (Silas's only child) when she was working on the family genealogy. In this letter in 1928 he said something to the effect that there was something irregular in the Barton history, and perhaps my great-grandmother did not want to probe too closely... (this after noting that someone in another family line had had to hurry up a wedding a little, according to the dates in the family bible!). While some of the above died young or unmarried, I know that some of them did marry, and I'm hoping there are descendants out there somewhere. Also, I'd like to take the line back from Daniel, but I'm not sure where to look. Any suggestions? Sheila Connolly

Has it ever been confirmed that Bridget Palmer (b. 1671 in Fairfield, CT) was the wife of Roger Barton and does anyone have any further info. on her / her ancestry? Thanks, Chris

Re: Bartons in Nova Scotia In your research of the Stephen Barton line in Nova Scotia, have you found a Barton family with William as head of the family?? His wife would probably be Elizabeth and both would have been born in Ireland ca 1795 as was their oldest daughter Mary in 1820. Then there were three more children born in N.S.; Rebecca in 1823, Isabella in 1825 and George in 1827. After that the family was in Western Pa. Any help or info would be appreciated. Thanks, Clark -----Original Message----- From: CMere85162@aol.com <CMere85162@aol.com> To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com <BARTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: [BARTON-L] Stephen Barton >Greetings to all Barton Researchers out there I have not been able to get >back more >4 Gens on my line of Bartons, my maternal Gr Gr Grandfather Stephen Barton >his daughters B.C. says he was from Nova Scotia her name is Clara Elizabeth >Barton and she was born in Cambridge Ma. He was married at the time to Julia >(Burke) Barton who was from Cape Breton I don't know if he died in Ma. but my >Mother seems to think he did. If anyone has Stephen Barton of Nova Scotia or >Ma. on their list please help. Thank you > >JClara Mom > YMik 1 >st born Son > YACE 2nd Son ( Rat terrier) > > >==== BARTON Mailing List ==== >Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert Brogan at christib@satx.rr.com > >

Hi Jeanne, (also Arlene and Jim) and all I've been away from the computer...but am catching up on Arlene, Jim and your discussion of NEGS volumes 106 and 107, McCracken and our possible/probable ancestors. Arlene and I have ordered the NEGS volumes, but in the meantime would you be so kind to check your index for me to see if there is a listing of these names ...especially BATES. The particular associations that I am researching are: Henry Barton and Sarah/Sally Bates and their sons: John Henry Barton James E. Barton The data that I have is: Henry Barton born in Westchester County 1810 His marriage to a Sarah/Sally BATES -- born Putnam County. So perhaps the marriage was there. I didn't find any good possibilities on my search of BATES/BARTON marriages in Westchester County Archives online. Then the record of the births of their sons in NY County: John Henry Barton -- approximately 1837 and James E. Barton -- approximately 1841 The family left NY County and moved to Sullivan County around 1843 and we have them fairly well documented from there. Thank you for your kind attention in resolving our BARTON ancestry concerns. My husband is related to Henry through John Henry's daughter Clara. Georgia OSCHMAN DENMAN

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All I have heard about the relationship between Roger and Rufus is circumstantial but there is also this. Even though Rufus signed the lease he was not in NY to use it. At the time mentioned Rufus was in RI. The proof is that Rufus is listed on the charter for the founding of Warwick RI and was present to sign the actual charter. There is also supposedly a letter that Rufus wrote to the Governor of the Dutch colony indicating a long running disagreement. I must admit that I have never seen a copy of this letter and do not know all the contents. What I have had third hand is that Rufus had an argument with the governor and had to leave and wrote the letter to turn the lease over to Roger. Again, this is circumstantial at best but if anyone knows where a copy of this letter could be obtained I would be grateful. L Barton

Do you want Rufus or Marmaduke. There is some question as to how they were related. Marmaduke is mentioned in the RI genealogical Index as possibly related to Rufus. Rufus is the brother of Roger and came to America from Holland to Manhatten where he argued with the Dutch governor and left to go to Mass. He then went to Warwick RI where he was a founding father and is listed on the original charter. His son Benjamin married Susannah Gorton the daughter of Samuel Gorton (the fish people). The family is well documented throught the Rhode Island genealogical Index. Gen William Barton and Gen Nathanial Greene are both descendents of Rufus. Nathanial Greenes' grandmother was a Barton and his g-grandaughter married Henry Oscar Barton, a direct descendent of Rufus. Best of luck in your research. L Baron

Jeanne Holder wrote, "Jim, Thank you for your information. Would you be willing to share your old family letter with us? It must be interesting. Jeanne" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ok, but it isn't that interesting. Most of the letter is about members of the immediate family. Give me until this weekend to find it and enter it. At the moment, I have 10 reels of microfilms of 17th and 18th century Norwegian parish records to go through. (Can't find Roger Bartonsen in there anywhere, nor Rufus). Jim

Jeanne Holder wrote: "There IS an index for both Vol. 106 and 107 of McCracken's material. I have it. Jeanne" - - - - - - - - - - - Jeanne, thank you for reminding us. There is an index for the entire Vol 106 and another index for the entire Vol 107. One can use those two for the indexes for Barton. If one buys the CD-ROM of the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, one gets the indexes for each of the volumes in addition to an overall index for all volumes. If one buys a bound volume, the index for that volume is part of the book. However, if one buys individual back issues, then it is necessary to buy the first issue of the next year to get that index. For example, if a person buys the four issues for 1953 (Vol 107), and if one wants the index for those four issues, then it is necessary to buy the January 1954 issue to get the 1953 index. Using the two indexes to look-up Barton names is ok. But almost half the names in a genealogy are other surnames. And the indexes are all the surnames in the two volumes, not just the surnames in the McCracken article. Hence, for example, one cannot look in the index to see if there is a Hudson in the Barton article, because if there is a Hudson, or are several Hudsons, then one has to look each one up only to find they are in other articles. Then to the index for the other volume and repeat the drill. All in all, the volume indexes are not great. But they are better than nothing.

Hello Cousins! My name is Vicki & I have a lost GG Grandmother, Martha N. Barton-Bell , married, GG Grandfather Robert S. Bell, 10-13-1871. List, your family & I need some suggestions on how to find her & her parents names,only I have a problem. In 1871 they were in Indian Territory,known as Pickens county & all of you know about the slim pickings on any kind of records for the Chickasaw Nation,Indian Territory.SO, I know somebody out there could make some suggestions? I have searched in every cemetery on the net looking for her,she is not buried w/her husband, Woodville cemetery,Marshall county. I have had a researcher looking for months & she lives in Madill,OK right in the same county&area & she has not been able to come up with anything. Need some help on this one. Thank you folks. Thanks Vicki rreynolds@pdq.net

In a message dated 2/9/00 11:59:44 AM Central Standard Time, jcbarto1@ix.netcom.com writes: > jcbarto1@ix.netcom.com At last, A person who has the same attitude as I do about the origins of my Rufus, the Roger, and the Marmaduke. My oral family history always said four brothers, with only Rufus named. However, my grandmother and aunts went to Maine to the Barton Reunion many summer, and I was taken about 1939 when I was old enough. My grandparents were born in 1857 and 1860 respectively. However, we never had any documentation, and our story said they came from Holland to New Amsterdam, then Rufus to RI. So, again no documentation. I really would like to find some, but I also am left in limbo. Please keep us informed if anyone can find hard copy that documents. Appreciate it. Betsey

Ed, McCracken wrote that there is no evidence that Roger was a brother of Rufus and/or Marmaduke. Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote, "The Descendants of Solomon Barton of Dutchess County, New York, and Monkton, Vermont," published in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 1928. Solomon Barton is a descendant of Roger Barton of Westchester County, and this piece is mentioned in McCracken's article. Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote the following in his 1928 article. "It has been stated that the original ancestor in America of Solomon Barton was Edward Barton, a sea-captain, who brought his family from England and settled in the Barbadoes Islands. No printed record of this has been located, although it is said to exist in the Barbadoes. The same uncertain source is responsible for the statement that two sons of Edward, namely Roger and Rufus came to the Island of Manhattan about 1641 from Barbadoes. Rufus, very shortly afterwards went into the English colony at Providence, R.I., and was the founder of the Barton family of that section. Roger settled amongst the Dutch and in August, 1642, leased land of the Reverend Everardus Bogardus, ..." Thus the Solomon Barton article presents the story as heresay without any documentary evidence. From 1928 to 1952 no one found any evidence to support that, for McCracken wrote in the July 1952 issue: "Pending completion of investigations now in progress or in prospect, it would be dangerous to say more about Roger Barton's English ancestry than to assert, with considerable conviction, that as yet no evidence having the slightest validity has been presented by anyone." In the January, 1954, issue of the NEHGR, McCracken added a note of correction to his article, the note having nothing to do with the ancestry of Roger Barton. He added nothing new from what existed almost two years earlier with regard to Roger's ancestry. McCracken became Publisher and Editor of The American Genealogist, but, to my knowledge, printed nothing that would change what was in the 1952/1953 article with regard to the ancestry of Roger Barton. To the contrary, McCracken points to a July 1951 article in The American Genealogist, vol. 27, no. 3, July 1951, pages 126-8, that it was Rufus Barton, not Roger, who signed a lease in 1642 with Reverend Everardus Bogardus. Thus the first record of Roger Barton was in Brookhaven in 1662. That further separates Roger from Rufus in both time and place. I will be very pleased and happy if someone can present documentary evidence that Roger, Rufus and Marmaduke were brothers. I have an old family letter which has such a story, the three brothers, and the source in my family takes us back almost 200 years, two-thirds of the way back to Roger Barton. But having the story in any form from anyone is one thing. Providing evidence is another. We have other family stories which can be proven to be incorrect. That's not unusual. It is fine to look for the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke. It is another thing to claim they are brothers of Roger Barton of Westchester County. If anyone has evidence they were brothers, please let all of us know about it. Almost anyone can put almost anything into the FTM World Family Tree, or into the LDS Family Ancestral Files, or into the IGI sheets. Those are not evidence. Those are unsupported repetitions of the story. Jim - - - - - - - - - - - - - - EDWARD SMITH wrote: > Can anyone assist me in determining the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke > BARTON. They are brothers to Roger BARTON, who is referred to in George E. > McCracken's material "Roger Barton of Westchester County, N.Y., and Some of > His Earlier Descendants", published in the New England Historical and > Genealogical Register, 1952. Any information will be greatly appreciated. > My e-mail is < e.e.smith.com@worldnet.att.net > > Ed Smith > > ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== > No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves.

Can anyone assist me in determining the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke BARTON. They are brothers to Roger BARTON, who is referred to in George E. McCracken's material "Roger Barton of Westchester County, N.Y., and Some of His Earlier Descendants", published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 1952. Any information will be greatly appreciated. My e-mail is < e.e.smith.com@worldnet.att.net > Ed Smith

Jim, Thank you for your information. Would you be willing to share your old family letter with us? It must be interesting. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barton <jcbarto1@ix.netcom.com> To: BARTON-L@rootsweb.com <BARTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: February 09, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [BARTON-L] Rufus & Marmaduke BARTON >Ed, > >McCracken wrote that there is no evidence that Roger was a brother of Rufus and/or Marmaduke. > >Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote, "The Descendants of Solomon Barton of Dutchess County, New York, >and Monkton, Vermont," published in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 1928. Solomon >Barton is a descendant of Roger Barton of Westchester County, and this piece is mentioned in >McCracken's article. > >Dr. Joshua Lindley Barton wrote the following in his 1928 article. > >"It has been stated that the original ancestor in America of Solomon Barton was Edward Barton, a >sea-captain, who brought his family from England and settled in the Barbadoes Islands. No printed >record of this has been located, although it is said to exist in the Barbadoes. The same uncertain >source is responsible for the statement that two sons of Edward, namely Roger and Rufus came to the >Island of Manhattan about 1641 from Barbadoes. Rufus, very shortly afterwards went into the English >colony at Providence, R.I., and was the founder of the Barton family of that section. Roger settled >amongst the Dutch and in August, 1642, leased land of the Reverend Everardus Bogardus, ..." > >Thus the Solomon Barton article presents the story as heresay without any documentary evidence. From >1928 to 1952 no one found any evidence to support that, for McCracken wrote in the July 1952 issue: > >"Pending completion of investigations now in progress or in prospect, it would be dangerous to say >more about Roger Barton's English ancestry than to assert, with considerable conviction, that as yet >no evidence having the slightest validity has been presented by anyone." > >In the January, 1954, issue of the NEHGR, McCracken added a note of correction to his article, the >note having nothing to do with the ancestry of Roger Barton. He added nothing new from what existed >almost two years earlier with regard to Roger's ancestry. McCracken became Publisher and Editor of >The American Genealogist, but, to my knowledge, printed nothing that would change what was in the >1952/1953 article with regard to the ancestry of Roger Barton. > >To the contrary, McCracken points to a July 1951 article in The American Genealogist, vol. 27, no. >3, July 1951, pages 126-8, that it was Rufus Barton, not Roger, who signed a lease in 1642 with >Reverend Everardus Bogardus. Thus the first record of Roger Barton was in Brookhaven in 1662. That >further separates Roger from Rufus in both time and place. > >I will be very pleased and happy if someone can present documentary evidence that Roger, Rufus and >Marmaduke were brothers. I have an old family letter which has such a story, the three brothers, and >the source in my family takes us back almost 200 years, two-thirds of the way back to Roger Barton. >But having the story in any form from anyone is one thing. Providing evidence is another. We have >other family stories which can be proven to be incorrect. That's not unusual. > >It is fine to look for the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke. It is another thing to claim they are >brothers of Roger Barton of Westchester County. > >If anyone has evidence they were brothers, please let all of us know about it. > >Almost anyone can put almost anything into the FTM World Family Tree, or into the LDS Family >Ancestral Files, or into the IGI sheets. Those are not evidence. Those are unsupported repetitions >of the story. > >Jim >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >EDWARD SMITH wrote: > >> Can anyone assist me in determining the descendants of Rufus and Marmaduke >> BARTON. They are brothers to Roger BARTON, who is referred to in George E. >> McCracken's material "Roger Barton of Westchester County, N.Y., and Some of >> His Earlier Descendants", published in the New England Historical and >> Genealogical Register, 1952. Any information will be greatly appreciated. >> My e-mail is < e.e.smith.com@worldnet.att.net > >> Ed Smith >> >> ==== BARTON Mailing List ==== >> No copyrighted materials are permitted on this list unless by the copyright owner themselves. > > > > >==== BARTON Mailing List ==== >Please visit the surname mailing list homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/barton.html >for information on this list, it's member's pages, queries and other helpful genealogy pages. > >