Janet, I'm not sure why Dan removed the Reuben-Barrett mailing list. It may have been because so many of us also subscribe to the Barrett mailing list. I'm sure he'll add us back if you send him an e-mail asking that he do so. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett Surname DNA Project Powell Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: CHenry8604@aol.com [mailto:CHenry8604@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:02 PM To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Barrett News I will start copy and pasting Dan Barrett's "Barrett News" to the list for everyon as he has stopped sending it to lists. He has some intresting stuff in his newsletters. Hugs, Janet B A R R E T T N E W S # 25 - APRIL 23, 2004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: Dan E. Barrett, 179-3033 Townline Road, Stevensville, Ontario, Canada, L0S 1S1 - E-mail: barrett @ vaxxine.com Web Site - http://www.vaxxine.com/barrett - - - - - - - CIRCULATION: 584 Barrett correspondents on E-mail and 77 non-registrants on E-mail. *** Back issues # 1 to # 24 are available by e-mail *** - - - - - - - BARRETT NEWS is an E-mail newsletter for BARRETT Correspondents (all spellings, world-wide) - - - - - - - WEB SITE: CANADIAN WAR MUSEUMS & LIBRARIES NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS - WAR MUSEUM http://warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/ This gives 140,000 newspaper clippings you can search by family name CANADA WAR MUSEUM WEB SITE http;//www.warmuseum.ca ON-LINE DATA BASES http://geoweb.civilisations.ca:8001 - - - - - - - SHARING RECORDS - HENRY BARRETT IN LONDON Thanks to Liam for sharing the following. - Dan From: "Liam Barrett" lb.guin@btopenworld.com I have trawled around Shoreditch and Bethnal Green for my Barretts and have the following Henrys that may be useful? Henry Barrett 1. bapt 8 May 1814 St Leonards, Shoreditch of Thos & Hannah 2. bapt 1 Oct 1815, Christchurch, Spitalfields of Joseph, weaver of brick lane & Harriet (my own line) 3. bapt 15 Jan, St Matthews, Bethnal Green of Thomas, soldier in workhouse & Mary - - - - - - - WEB SITE - BY ERROR Did you ever get a usable web site by error? Try this one! Links too! http://www.familysearc.org - - - - - - - MY DNA TEST RESULTS - by: Dan Barrett I recently received the results of my DNA test and find out that I am related to no-one. Isn't that interesting? Actually, I am not surprised as I know of no other male descendants of my Barrett line other than my own son. There have been many male Barretts in my family tree but none, that I am aware of, have any living descendants with the surname Barrett. Incidentally taking the test is very simple. I ordered the test kit from Jim Barrett and followed the instructions which were to swab my inner cheek with the two swabs enclosed. Then I mailed it off. The test results showed that I am not related to any-one that has been tested. In fact, the results showed that I am not descended from any known genetic group in England or from anywhere for that matter. Maybe some time in the future my DNA test results will show that I am related to one of you or to the families of Swindon with the surnames, Tarrant, Goddard, Braine, Leister, Hancock, Wake, King, Waite or Heath. The following is a reply I received in answer to one of my questions. Well then, to whom am I related? "Because your DNA is neither Haplogroup J or J2 you are most likely descended from the original Neolithic farmers who came from the Middle east to Europe starting about 9500 years ago. These people had a small genetic fingerprint upon Europeans, but their technology, farming, totally replaced the hunter gatherer life style as farming spread from east to west over the next 2000 years." (Haplogroup J or J2, as I understand, are the names given to the main genetic groups of people who lived in England. "J and J2 are the Semites who came to Europe, through Turkey about 9000 years ago and taught Europeans how to farm." Four to six percent of Englishmen are in these two groups. Where does the other 94% fit in? We'll have to determine that.) So maybe my ancestors prior to the ones I know about were Ango-Saxons, or Druids or maybe just barbarians. Lots of fun speculating, right? Well, ain't that a fine kettle of fish? How in blazes am I going to find the paper trail back to guys that lived seven thousand years ago give or take a year or so? Of course no-one in their right mind would think that could be done unless of course they were descended from the house of David or some other such patriarch. But the questions still remain, don't they? Where did my ancestors come from? How did they get the name of Berratt\Barrett, however it was spelled? My known Barrett ancestors came from Swindon, Wiltshire, England going back to about 1606. The church registers, for Swindon, began in 1623 with the first Barrett entry being that of a baptism for a Larrence Berratt in 1625 with his father's name shown as Thoma Berratt who would have been born circa 1606. The Town of Swindon was a small inconspicuous, out of the way, out of history, "market town", almost feudal in nature, up until the time of the coming of a canal in 1810 and the coming of the railway in 1837. In 1086 the population was 27 humble labourers, serfs, villeins. etc. In 1680, about 70 years after the birth of my Thoma Berratt, there were only 140 householders and in 1801 there were only 244 houses. So it was a small, isolated little town with a few families who worked mainly for the Lord of the Manor. Since the coming of the rail road it became a much larger town. At one point in history it was the largest rail road manufacturing location in Europe. Of course with the coming of the rail road and its related manufacturing enterprises, Swindon grew immensely. I will not bore you with any more details about the history of Swindon but I could go on for many pages as I have read everything I can find about it. And, yes, I have written about it also. Some of the details are in my book, "Barrett - Our Family Name", 1991, which is about my Barrett ancestors and a book I compiled entitled, "Swindon Wiltshire. Chronological Historical Events," 1985. My hope is that there will be a large number of male Barretts tested, that descend from English and Irish forefathers, so that someday we will have a large DNA test bank of related Barrett families. Who knows, maybe the results will someday show relationships of Barrett descendants in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, the USA and elsewhere related to Barrett families rooted in Ireland and England. Can you imagine a present day Barrett family being connected to a Norman Barrett family who lived in Normandy prior to 1066? Here is a technical article about the subject. If you read it, please tell me what you learned. http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/capelli2_CB.pdf written by: Dan Barrett, 2004 - - - - - - - ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to TXMADISO-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or TXMADISO-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM if you are on the Digest list. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237