Janet, That's great...if you need help, let me know. There's a very helpful gentleman at the VA in Nashville who I've found very supportive in getting the VA forms thru the red tape...quite an oddity for bureaucrats! To know that they accept the forms by fax was quite a revelation..... I also failed to mention in the first post that assistance by community leaders such as your county supervisor who can be instrumental in getting your stone[s] received and installed..... R/Steven ........................................... S T E V E N M I T C H E L L -----Original Message----- From: CHenry8604@aol.com [mailto:CHenry8604@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:36 PM To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Free Government Marker for Confederate Ve ts In a message dated 4/12/04 3:20:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smm@focalpointlights.com writes: > Janet, Sorry for being so chatty and off-subject. > > Steven, This is what the list is for I am so glad you let us all know about the stones, as I am ordering one for my Stephen. HUgs, Janet ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
In a message dated 4/12/04 3:20:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smm@focalpointlights.com writes: > Janet, Sorry for being so chatty and off-subject. > > Steven, This is what the list is for I am so glad you let us all know about the stones, as I am ordering one for my Stephen. HUgs, Janet
Karen, Thank you for the boost in confidence, but I am by no means an expert. My 'experience' is drawn from my ambitious effort to have 131 Mississippi soldier's graves marked with the appropriate CSA tombstone. My gggrandfather and two of his brothers served in the 21st MS Infantry, Co., G. My gggrandfather and one brother survived the War of Northern Aggression, but the youngest, 17-year old James John Mitchell died shortly after enlistment in June 1861. Any knowledge of his demise and burial location was unknown to the family for the last 142 years until recently. The three brothers marched to Manassas, VA to join up with Lee's Northern Virginia Army. James John was ordered to picket duty at Sinclair's Ford and Black Ford on the Occoquan River until he developed camp fever and died at the General Hospital at Leesburg during the night of November 11, 1861. His body was placed in a mass grave in Union Cemetery, Leesburg, VA with about 200 other fallen Mississippi soldiers from the 13th, 17th, 18th and 21st Infantries. These soldiers remained unknown for 140+ years until two gentlemen from Virginia were able to identify 131 of the 200 along with other fallen CSA soldiers from neighboring states. What started as an effort to have James John's grave marked with a single CSA tombstone has now escalated in to an effort to have 131 tombstones installed in memory of those that have been identified. All soldiers that have fought in any War since the American Revolution as an American soldier, regardless of color, creed or religion, are entitled to a government supplied tombstone free of charge. That marker can be on the actual grave such as at or near a battlefield where he or she fell, or as a memorial marker at the hometown cemetery. It does not have to be placed at the point of burial. But only ONE tombstone will be provided by the government. Both Yankees and Rebs have the right to these tombstones. It's not about which side they were on [or still are], it's about fighting and dying as an American. Obtaining all the appropriate Service Records from MDAH, NARA, etc. is the first task at hand. You must be able to provide proper CSR documents identifying your soldier and his/her service to our country. Date of Birth and Death are not necessary to obtain the tombstone. You do not have to be a relative to the deceased to obtain the tombstone. Anyone can order it. Upright 'peaked' tombstones vs. upright rounded tombstones are advisable...you can't sit on them.... all CSA stones will have the Southern Cross of Honor. The tombstone can be delivered to ANY address as long as it's not a PO Box or similar. ? There needs to be someone there to receive the stone[s]. Keep in mind that an upright 'peaked' tombstone with a Southern Cross of Honor weighs in at 230 pounds. For that reason, a place of business may be best. If delivering to your home and the cemetery is 'nearby', you will have to transport it to the cemetery. Some cemeteries will receive for you. Check with your local cemetery, funeral home, or funeral marker companies as to what they can do for you. Inspect your tombstone upon arrival. Any damaged stones will be replaced free of charge by the government. In my case, the receiving of 131 tombstones will be monumental...[!] You can actually install the tombstone yourself if you are capable. It needs to be set one foot in to the ground. Generally, you can receive assistance from the cemetery, but in rural areas, you'll need the assistance of good strong individuals. I don't find the SCV units helpful in this regard, because they're generally older gents like myself. Since you need to pay the costs to install these tombstones out of your own pocket, I find it advisable to talk to the local law enforcement folks and they will have the local prisoner population do it for you. I noticed this while I was up in the Drew, MS cemetery and after seeing prisoners digging graves, I asked the constable about it, and that led me to having the nearby prison in Virginia as my resource to have 131 tombstones installed when the time came. Be resourceful with your available labor pools. College kids are great, but mine have flown the coop.....I hear it's $75 charge at some cemeteries to install the tombstone, but I'm not sure. I know about Camp Chase, but have never been there. If they have a single monument to honor those fallen unknown soldiers of the Civil War, just as the cemetery in Leesburg does, those cemeteries will allow individual tombstones to be places as well for those soldiers that have be subsequently identified. If I missed some of your questions....let me know. I commend any person or persons that make the effort to honor our fallen soldiers. They are the reason we are here today. Janet, Sorry for being so chatty and off-subject. R/Steven ........................................... S T E V E N M I T C H E L L
Marilyn, Time will mend your broken heart and your pain will be replaced by wonderful memories. God bless you and your family during your time of loss. Love, Janice Barrett Huston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith & Marilyn Dowdy" <k.dowdy@mchsi.com> To: <BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:16 AM Subject: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] My father > Dear Friends, > > My father died Thursday, April 8 at home. His funeral was yesterday. The > living testament to my father is his love for and dedication to Jesus > Christ; he touched many lives. Every person who spoke to me said, "He was a > great man." > > Thank you for your prayers, love, and support. My dad lived 2 years and 6 > months past the time the doctors gave him. I believe it was because of his > faith and the many prayers that went up for him all over this country that > sustained him. > > Thank you again. > > Marilyn Dowdy > > > ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== > Please tell your Barrett Relatives online about our list....we would all love to meet more cousins!!! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >
Marilyn, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Please know that we (cousins on list) are all here for you and although there is nothing that any of us can say to you that will make this easier to get thru for you, you have our support if you need us. We are your family and we all care very much about you. I know when I lost my mother a few months ago my Barrett cousins were such a support line for me and I am very grateful to all of them. When we lose someone we love so much and has been such a big part of who we have become in life, it is a hard burden to bear. But we have the memories in our hearts that will remain forever. Don't be afraid to reflect on those memories and keep them alive, even if it hurts at first. In time they become a great comfort. I do believe we all have guardian angels who watch over us and I am sure even though your father is no longer walking this earth beside you, he is still all around you and a part of you everyday and still with you. If you ever need to talk, cry, scream or just be silent with someone, please call me or write me, I will always be here for you. I will keep you in my prayers. Love you, Janet
Dear Marilyn and family.. I am sorry for your loss. There will be great rejoicing in the reunion of many of our fathers. I can only speak for myself as I miss my father very much as I am sure you will miss yours. Take comfort in the fact that he has gone before you and waiting for you to come and join him. No it is never the same once we have lost our parents, some we miss very much as they have been a part of our lives. I am almost 60 years old and I am pround to say that Hugh Roland Barrett was a very big part of my life for over 55 years and it has never been the same without him. Yes he no longer is in pain and no longer suffers, for that I am very grateful. The love will be carried in my heart and to the many others that I come in contact with as this is what he taught me. your cousis Theda Barrett Henry _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp
Marilyn, So very sorry to learn of your fathers' passing. You can be assured he is in a better place with no more pain & suffering and that someday there will be a Great Reunion. With love & prayers, Gaye
Marilyn, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. I know you will miss him. At least you know he is in a better place and is no longer in pain. God bless! Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett Surname DNA Project Powell Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: Keith & Marilyn Dowdy [mailto:k.dowdy@mchsi.com] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:16 AM To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] My father Dear Friends, My father died Thursday, April 8 at home. His funeral was yesterday. The living testament to my father is his love for and dedication to Jesus Christ; he touched many lives. Every person who spoke to me said, "He was a great man." Thank you for your prayers, love, and support. My dad lived 2 years and 6 months past the time the doctors gave him. I believe it was because of his faith and the many prayers that went up for him all over this country that sustained him. Thank you again. Marilyn Dowdy ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== Please tell your Barrett Relatives online about our list....we would all love to meet more cousins!!! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Marilyn, I am sorry to hear about your Dad. I do believe that he too is up in Heaven with a "Great Man". It sounds like he lived a great and wonderful life. I will continue to keep you in my prayers. May God Bless, Brandy McCann Crafton --- Keith & Marilyn Dowdy <k.dowdy@mchsi.com> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > My father died Thursday, April 8 at home. His > funeral was yesterday. The > living testament to my father is his love for and > dedication to Jesus > Christ; he touched many lives. Every person who > spoke to me said, "He was a > great man." > > Thank you for your prayers, love, and support. My > dad lived 2 years and 6 > months past the time the doctors gave him. I > believe it was because of his > faith and the many prayers that went up for him all > over this country that > sustained him. > > Thank you again. > > Marilyn Dowdy > > > ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== > Please tell your Barrett Relatives online about our > list....we would all love to meet more cousins!!! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >
Dear Friends, My father died Thursday, April 8 at home. His funeral was yesterday. The living testament to my father is his love for and dedication to Jesus Christ; he touched many lives. Every person who spoke to me said, "He was a great man." Thank you for your prayers, love, and support. My dad lived 2 years and 6 months past the time the doctors gave him. I believe it was because of his faith and the many prayers that went up for him all over this country that sustained him. Thank you again. Marilyn Dowdy
Janet, John went to Hall Co., GA about 1818. Elizabeth Wilson Barrett married in Hall Co., GA in 1830 and died in Forsyth Co., GA in 1883. William Barrett, son of Arthur Barrett and Rebecca Barton, was also in Forsyth Co., GA. He is listed on the later census records as being blind. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett Surname DNA Project Powell Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: CHenry8604@aol.com [mailto:CHenry8604@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:14 AM To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Barrett Migration Hello, Can anyone tell me which Barrett's migrated with which when they left SC? Particuarly those who went to Georgia. Which ones if any traveled with John Barrett? Hugs, Janet ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Thanks to all of you who entered the discussion on Civil War burials. As several of you have pointed out, many of the Civil War prison camps have web sites with names and death dates of those who are buried there. In the searching I've done, trying to find death and burial information on the men who were in Company B, 24th Regiment Texas Cavalry, I have discovered that the prison cemetery death and burial record OFTEN has the wrong information. I went through the microfilmed service records for all of the men in Company B, over a hundred men, and I have found that the information on the mortuary certificates often (perhaps usually) disagrees with the cemetery burial record in some significant way. The errors include state and regiment and company, initials, death date, etc. There is an agency that is attempting to correct all of these records, but it will be years before it is done; they are asking that people send in reports of erroneous information. The lesson to be learned is, IF YOU FIND ONE OF YOUR MEN LISTED IN A UNION PRISON BURIAL RECORD, take it with a grain of salt! You should order the man's military service record and compare the information in it to the burial record of the prison cemetery. What I have found is that the Confederate records are really skimpy compared with the Federal records. If a soldier died while he was a prisoner at a Federal prison, there will usually be a mortuary certificate and other identifying information in the files, such as description and birth place and place of residence. If he died of disease along the trail or in battle, you may as well forget finding more than his death date, if that. There are volunteer organizations organized for the purpose of filling in the gaps. If you had anyone who died of illness while stationed at the Confederate encampment, Camp Holmes, near Pine Bluff, Arkansas, there is an organization which is attempting to gather the names of those men. They have made provisions for memorial markers at the cemetery there. They have a web site and a contact person. One of my Cavalrymen did die during the month that my men were camped there. Jack, thanks for your suggestion. I think we have that part of it (someone to receive the stone) figured out now. I'm going to add this tidbit, just as a matter of interest. In going back into my old files, I have found Great-Uncle Dave Barrett's records. The War Department had NO record of his service. But, he proved his service to the satisfaction of State of Texas pension officials, and he was allowed a pension. The catch was that, being quite young, he did not enter service until January 1865; and the service was in Company G, 7th Texas Cavalry. This was the same regiment and company that his older brother, Steven Barrett, was a member of. And many of you will recall that Janet has had great difficulty in finding out anything about Steven's service; there is only one muster roll for Steven, and no death record, although the family Bible states that he died in service. One way or the other, we will have a marker for him by this fall, I am sure. Karen On Friday, April 9, 2004, at 08:11 PM, BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > In the little bit of research I have done, it looks like my ancestor, > William Grant Barrett, had some brothers who died as prisoners of war > at > Camp Chase Ohio.
Dear Readers, I just sent "Barrett News" # 23 to the Reuben list. I would prefer sending the newsletter directly to you if you would like to receive it. If you would like to receive the back copies and future editions please send your name and E-mail address to me directly. I would rather not send the newsletter to Rootsweb lists so that folks are not getting duplicate copies. The following is a brief description of what I do for Barrett descendants. Thank You. Dan Barrett barrett@vaxxine.com THE "BARRETT REGISTER" AND THE "BARRETT NEWS" - - - - - - - THE "BARRETT REGISTER" By: Dan E. Barrett, Canada Since 1980 the Register has been assisting Barrett researchers locate their ancestors and to locate other researchers seeking information on the same Barrett family. As of this date there are 2131 correspondents and 1793 Barrett ancestral lines indexed and cross-referenced by "place names" in the "Barrett Register". You are invited to send the earliest three generations of your Barrett line for indexing even if you have only one or two Barrett ancestor. Maybe someone already registered is related to you. You will be notified if others with the same ancestors have previously registered or if others are searching for Barretts in the same locality. The "Barrett Register" is never to be published in any way, either in print or through the internet. Names and addresses of correspondents are only forwarded to others with the same ancestors or who may be able to be of assistance. Believe it or not! This service is FREE. You may forward your Barrett line by E-mail or if you prefer to submit by postal mail, please do so. REQUEST a "form" from the following, on which to send your Barrett information: Dan E. Barrett, 179-3033 Townline Road, Stevensville, Ontario, Canada, L0S 1S1 OR - by e-mail to: barrett@vaxxine.com - - - - - - - THE "BARRETT NEWS" An E-mail newsletter, "Barrett News", is available for any Barrett descendant wishing to receive it by E-mail. Twenty-two issues have already been sent out by and are available on request at no charge. There are not too many places that you can get something for nothing these days but here is one. If you are already registered with me and you are not receiving the "Barrett News" please send your name and current e-mail address. Dan E. Barrett barrett@vaxxine.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dan E. Barrett 179-3033 Townline Road Stevensville, Ontario Canada, L0S 1S1 E-Mail: barrett@vaxxine.com Web Site: http://www.vaxxine.com/barrett
B A R R E T T N E W S # 23 - April 9, 2004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: Dan E. Barrett, 179-3033 Townline Road, Stevensville, Ontario, Canada, L0S 1S1 - E-mail: barrett @ vaxxine.com Web Site - http://www.vaxxine.com/barrett - - - - - - - CIRCULATION: 569 Barrett correspondents on E-mail and 58 non-registrants on E-mail. *** Back issues # 1 to # 22 are available by e-mail *** - - - - - - - BARRETT NEWS is for BARRETT Correspondents (all spellings, world-wide) - - - - - - - 1901 CENSUS OF CANADA - BARRETT FAMILY SURNAME: BARRETT CITY: St. Anne's Ward, Montreal, Province of Quebec, Canada COLOUR: white - RELIGION: R.C. - RACIAL ORIGIN: Irish Father came to Canada in 1850 - AGE* = age at last birthday FIRST NAME \ SEX \ RELAT. \ STATUS \ D. OF B. \ AGE* \ BIRTHPLACE Thomas \ m \ head \ widow \ Nov. 23, 1831 \ 69 \ Ireland Hannah \ f \ dau \ single \ Mar 15, 1874 \ 27 \ Quebec Thomas \ m \ son \ single \ Aug 29, 1875 \ 25 \ Quebec Bridget \ f \ dau \ single \ Aug 9, 1877 \ 23 \ Quebec Maggie \ f \ dau \ single \ Feb 15, 1881 \ 20 \ Quebec Agnes \ f \ dau \ single \ Nov 8, 1883 \ 17 \ Quebec - - - - - - - BARRETTS OF WEST BERKSHIRE, ENGLAND Thomas Barrett married Em? but so far have found no trace of the marriage. The first child was born on the Jan 21,1620 and named Simon. The family lived in Hungerford, Berkshire, England but, later Barrett's are also associated with two villages in Wiltshire, namely Chilton Foliat and Ramsbury. Thomas Barrett born on the June 8, 1623 married Elizabeth? Their first child was born on the Aug. 8, 1651 in Hungerford but no trace of the marriage has been found between Thomas and Elizabeth. Then we have Thomas Barrett who was born at Chilton Foliat on the Mar. 5, 1679. He married Anne? But that marriage has not been found. Their first child Sarah was born circa 1705 in Chilton Foliat. Lastly there is John Barrett who was born in Lambourne, Berkshire on the Mar. 16, 1748. He married Martha? but that marriage also has not been found. Any one who can offer information please contact: Dave Barrett email:davidbarrett408@hotmail.com - - - - - - - CANADIAN LINKS For a page of Canadian Links e-mail to barrett@vaxxine.com and ask for a "Page of Canadian Links" - - - - - - - CANADIAN ARCHIVIA-NET - ON-LINE RESEARCH TOOL HTTP://www.archives.ca/02/0201_e.html For Census, 1666 - 1900, 1901 & 1871 / World War One soldiers and diaries / Western Land grants / Home Children / Immigration / and much, much more. - - - - - - - BARRETT SURNAME DNA PROJECT The following results indicate that so far 24 male Barrett descendants have had their DNA tested. In each of the following the "Barrett Branch Number" is first followed by the number of male Barretts tested for that line followed by the "OLDEST KNOWN ANCESTOR". SC-1, 6, Reuben Barrett, died Mar 3, 1814, Greenville Co, South Carolina, USA SC-2, 1, Arthur Barrett, born 1770, died 1845, Greenville Co., South Carolina, USA SC-3, 1, Jesse Barrett, born 1767c, died 1823, Southampton Co., Virginia, USA SC-4, 1, Solomon Barrett, born 1850, Charleston, South Carolina, USA SC-5, 1, Wesley Barrett, born 1808c SC, died June 18, 1881, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, USA PA-1, 2, Samuel C. Barrett Sr., Born Feb 21, 1758, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania, USA PA-2, 1, Ezra Nathanial Barrett, born 1860c, Bradford Co., Pennsylvania, USA NC-1, 1, David Barrett, died May 1845, Gibson Co., Tennessee, USA TN-1, 1, Thomas Barrett, died 1855, Hawkins Co., Tennessee, USA TN-2, 1, Thomas Barrett, married July 18, 1803, Sumner Co., Tennessee, USA TN-3, 1, Leroy W. Barrett, born Mar 29, 1818 & died Apr 6, 1900 in Bedford Co., Tennessee, USA KY-1, 1, Henry Barrett, born 1846, Clay Co., Tennessee, USA Eng-1, 1, Richard Barrett, born Jan 24, 1816, Andover, Hampshire, England Eng-2, 2, Thomas E. Barrett Sr., born Mar 15, 1775 in England, died Apr 8, 1866, Tazwell Co., Virginia, USA Eng-3, 1, Benjamin (Baker) Barratt, born 1802c in England UK-1, 1, Edward Albert Barrett, born Aug 7, 1869 and died Jan 29, 1907 in Camberwell, Surrey, England The "BARRETT BRANCH" SC-1, SC-2, SC-3, SC-4 and SC-5 shows that these five Barrett family branches, in South Carolina, are not related to each other. It is possible, if more English branches are tested, that a USA Branch could show relationship to an English Branch through the DNA testing even though the paper trail linking them is non-existent. If those of you that have been tested will send me your name and Kit Number, I may be able to supply the paper trail to others searching the same Barrett ancestors. It wouldn't be the first time that I connected cousins together that previously did not know each other. I wish I had a record of how many cousins I have been able to connect through the "Barrett Register". Through the register I have connected cousins, Aunts and Uncles and even step-siblings. I am impatiently waiting for the results of my own DNA test. I will share the results and experience with you in a later newsletter. The "Barrett Surname DNA Project" is administered by Jim Barrett of Bedford,Texas, USA. Here is the last bulletin sent out by Jim to those who have had their DNA tested. Date: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 Our web page has been updated with the addition of kit 17309. We still have a 37 marker upgrade that is past due and a 25 marker kit that is due tomorrow. Do hold your breath, but maybe things are turning around. One of our members has suggested, and I agree that it would be helpful, to add additional information about our lines. This additional data would be linked to from the current page. In my case, I'd add information about each generation of my family down to my grandfather. Information to be included would be whatever is known of name, date and place of birth and date and place of death. If someone connects with your family, but doesn't have their information back far enough to connect with the ancestor listed, this could be very helpful to them and maybe to you. If you are interested, please send the information. Thanks to all for your interest and comments. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net BARRETT SURNAME DNA PROJECT WEB SITE: http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm - - - - - - -
Oops, this is the site with the gravesite pictures: Cemetery <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/Franklin_Cemeteries/chase/chase.html> Photos, Franklin County, Ohio--Camp Chase Confederate Cemetery -----Original Message----- From: James Stafford [mailto:jddstaff@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:26 PM To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Free Government Marker for Confederate Vets Jean, Here's a Camp Chase website: Camp Chase Military Prison and <http://www.geocities.com/campchase/> Confederate Cemetery My gg-grandfather, Periander Lysander (P.L.), and his brother Tyler Harrison (T.H.) are buried there. There are a couple of other Barretts there as well. This website has a complete listing of the men who died there, including mil. outfit, plot number, etc. I also found U.S. <http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/dbases/chase1.htm> CWC -- Camp Chase Cemetery, which is part of a website on Franklin County, OH cemeteries. This has individual pictures of each gravestone. (It's a bit tricky to find link to the gravestone pictures, you have to click on one particular picture to get there.) The cemetery looks very well cared for, the gravestones are all vertical and in excellent condition. Would like to go there if I'm ever in Ohio. Conditions at the camp were horrible, I believe PL died of pneumonia, not sure about TH. >In the little bit of research I have done, it looks like my ancestor, William Grant Barrett, had some brothers who >died as prisoners of war at Camp Chase Ohio. I wonder if their graves are known and/or marked? I am thinking I >remember that at least one had no children, so there are no descendants to follow up and check this out. The little >bit of research I did (ie, checking things out on the internet) was done, like 5 years ago, and I could find at the time >no information on what happened to the dead POW. > >Does anyone know? > >Jean >H'burg, MS ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Jean, Here's a Camp Chase website: Camp Chase Military Prison and <http://www.geocities.com/campchase/> Confederate Cemetery My gg-grandfather, Periander Lysander (P.L.), and his brother Tyler Harrison (T.H.) are buried there. There are a couple of other Barretts there as well. This website has a complete listing of the men who died there, including mil. outfit, plot number, etc. I also found U.S. <http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/dbases/chase1.htm> CWC -- Camp Chase Cemetery, which is part of a website on Franklin County, OH cemeteries. This has individual pictures of each gravestone. (It's a bit tricky to find link to the gravestone pictures, you have to click on one particular picture to get there.) The cemetery looks very well cared for, the gravestones are all vertical and in excellent condition. Would like to go there if I'm ever in Ohio. Conditions at the camp were horrible, I believe PL died of pneumonia, not sure about TH. >In the little bit of research I have done, it looks like my ancestor, William Grant Barrett, had some brothers who >died as prisoners of war at Camp Chase Ohio. I wonder if their graves are known and/or marked? I am thinking I >remember that at least one had no children, so there are no descendants to follow up and check this out. The little >bit of research I did (ie, checking things out on the internet) was done, like 5 years ago, and I could find at the time >no information on what happened to the dead POW. > >Does anyone know? > >Jean >H'burg, MS
Jean I am sure you are aware that William Grant Barrett is buried in Neshoba County MS. Barbara Rupert may know more about the brothers who died in the Union POW camps. I am forwarding this note to her. She now lives in Ohio and has done research in this area. IHS<>< Skipper Jones From: Jean Rowell <jstreiff@juno.com> Reply-To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com To: BARRETT-REUBEN-SC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Free Government Marker for Confederate Vets Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:10:34 -0500 Karen- Thanks for all the questions, but it brings up more questions. In the little bit of research I have done, it looks like my ancestor, William Grant Barrett, had some brothers who died as prisoners of war at Camp Chase Ohio. I wonder if their graves are known and/or marked? I am thinking I remember that at least one had no children, so there are no descendants to follow up and check this out. The little bit of research I did (ie, checking things out on the internet) was done, like 5 years ago, and I could find at the time no information on what happened to the dead POW. Does anyone know? Jean H'burg, MS IHS<>< Skipper Jones PO Box 4052 Biloxi, MS 39535-4052 history1@datasync.com <>< <>< <>< <>< school address - Biloxi High School 1845 Richard Drive Biloxi, MS 39532 228-435-6105 fax 228-435-6353 www.biloxischools.net/ojones <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Donate your used inkjet/LaserJet cartridges and old cell phones to BHS History Club, 1845 Richard Drive, Biloxi, MS 39532 or send to me If you have a business you may become a supporting partner >> email me for more details. ******************** Funds raised are used for service project -BHS Veterans History Project - www.loc.gov/vets and to assist sending students to Mock Trial, We the People, National History Day, & other Social Studies Competitions <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Preserve to environment while helping with these worthwhile projects _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
Karen, How about either Buddy Barrett or Elwood Barrett to sign for the marker. They both are in Madisonville. Jack Karen Hett <kmchett@thegateway.net> wrote: Steven, Since others seem to be taking advantage of your expertise, I'm going to throw you some other questions. Rather than asking you privately, I thought maybe your answers would be of interest to several on the list. As many of you know, Steven's pet project is marking the graves of Confederate soldiers who served with his great-great uncle, right, Steven? Since I lost all my older e-mails, I don't have the exact details of the Mississippi regiment they served in. For the information of those of you on the list, the markers are free from the federal government, the Veteran's Administration. Even for the Rebs who served in the Confederacy. The only requirement is that the man has to have had an honorable discharge (can't have deserted.) The instructions and the application form are available on the VA website, to be downloaded as PDF. It works perfectly, and the form prints out looking like an original. If the soldier's remains cannot be pinpointed (for example, if he died on the battlefield but there is no cemetery there), then you can request a memorial marker to be placed there or in the soldier's home cemetery. With Steven's coaching, a descendant of one of "my" Cavalrymen obtained a free memorial marker for her ancestor, to be placed in the family cemetery in Montgomery County, Texas; she will place it and have the dedication in a couple of weeks. If any of you want to see a photo of the marker, you can go on my main history page on Barrett Branches and click on the name of Peter B. Irvine. The marker is down toward the bottom of the page. Thanks for your help, Steven! Karen Lawless is thrilled to have the marker. Which brings me to this: I am "fixin'" to fill out the forms to obtain a marker for David Albert Barrett, who was the twin brother of my great-grandmother, Amanda Barrett, wife of James Marion McCan. "Uncle Dave" is buried in the Barrett/Burroughs/Jenkins/Connor Cemetery in Madison County, just behind James M. and Amanda Barrett McCan, two rows back. His grave is unmarked; but the grave was pointed out to me by Mr. J. E. Winborn on New Year's Day, 1976. His wife's grave is marked, but the stone is in several pieces and is lying on the ground, nearly unreadable. This has previously been mentioned on the List. I don't see any problem proving service, but I would like to ask a few questions, Steven. First, the form says that the marker has to be delivered to a "business." I assume that this is to make sure that it's delivered to an address of someone who is there all day long during business hours, right? Ok, what do you normally do about this? What if we don't have a friend in business at Madisonville? The owner or manager of the "business" has to sign. Second, it asks your relationship to the deceased. I am not next-of-kin, I'm "other," which means that I'll have to tell what "other" I am. Should I put that I am the "family historian" or something like that? Or, should I have one of Uncle Dave's descendants sign the form rather than me? Last, you have to have someone from the cemetery sign the form stating that it is Ok for the stone to be placed there. Is this an absolutely rigid requirement? What about rural cemeteries with no cemetery association? Do you have to go to the county commissioner over that precinct for a signature, or what? Steven, I know you, yourself, always order the style of stone that is laid on the ground flat, and that you have your friends in the Sons of Confederate Veterans lay it in place for you; but, what if you want the upright stone? Do you have to get a monument company to install it in a solid base, or what? If so, do you have any idea what it would cost? I might add that, from what I can figure out, all Confederate Vets get the Southern Cross of Honor on their stones, right? What if you specify a different emblem, will they do it, or must you have only the Cross of Honor? I apologize to the List for being so long winded, but I really feel that it's important to honor those Confederate vets whose resting places we can identify. We (my generation) are going to be the last, surely, with any knowledge of these unmarked graves. Of course, we should also consider placing Confederate markers on graves of vets who are buried with a marker but with no CSA designation. Last, let me amend this to include ALL Civil War vets. My husband's great-grandfather fought for the Union army, out of Barren County, Kentucky. We know what cemetery he was buried in, in Minnesota, but the records of the grave site have been lost due to a fire. He would be a good candidate for a memorial marker, right, Steven? Thanks, Steven, for your expertise! Karen Hett ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Karen- Thanks for all the questions, but it brings up more questions. In the little bit of research I have done, it looks like my ancestor, William Grant Barrett, had some brothers who died as prisoners of war at Camp Chase Ohio. I wonder if their graves are known and/or marked? I am thinking I remember that at least one had no children, so there are no descendants to follow up and check this out. The little bit of research I did (ie, checking things out on the internet) was done, like 5 years ago, and I could find at the time no information on what happened to the dead POW. Does anyone know? Jean H'burg, MS On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:17:20 -0700 Karen Hett <kmchett@thegateway.net> writes: > Steven, > > Since others seem to be taking advantage of your expertise, I'm > going > to throw you some other questions. Rather than asking you > privately, I > thought maybe your answers would be of interest to several on the > list. > > As many of you know, Steven's pet project is marking the graves of > Confederate soldiers who served with his great-great uncle, right, > Steven? Since I lost all my older e-mails, I don't have the exact > details of the Mississippi regiment they served in. > > For the information of those of you on the list, the markers are > free > from the federal government, the Veteran's Administration. Even for > > the Rebs who served in the Confederacy. The only requirement is > that > the man has to have had an honorable discharge (can't have > deserted.) > > The instructions and the application form are available on the VA > website, to be downloaded as PDF. It works perfectly, and the form > > prints out looking like an original. > > If the soldier's remains cannot be pinpointed (for example, if he > died > on the battlefield but there is no cemetery there), then you can > request a memorial marker to be placed there or in the soldier's > home > cemetery. > > With Steven's coaching, a descendant of one of "my" Cavalrymen > obtained > a free memorial marker for her ancestor, to be placed in the > family > cemetery in Montgomery County, Texas; she will place it and have the > > dedication in a couple of weeks. If any of you want to see a photo > of > the marker, you can go on my main history page on Barrett Branches > and > click on the name of Peter B. Irvine. The marker is down toward the > > bottom of the page. Thanks for your help, Steven! Karen Lawless is > > thrilled to have the marker. > > Which brings me to this: I am "fixin'" to fill out the forms to > obtain > a marker for David Albert Barrett, who was the twin brother of my > great-grandmother, Amanda Barrett, wife of James Marion McCan. > "Uncle > Dave" is buried in the Barrett/Burroughs/Jenkins/Connor Cemetery in > > Madison County, just behind James M. and Amanda Barrett McCan, two > rows > back. His grave is unmarked; but the grave was pointed out to me by > > Mr. J. E. Winborn on New Year's Day, 1976. His wife's grave is > marked, > but the stone is in several pieces and is lying on the ground, > nearly > unreadable. This has previously been mentioned on the List. > > I don't see any problem proving service, but I would like to ask a > few > questions, Steven. > > First, the form says that the marker has to be delivered to a > "business." I assume that this is to make sure that it's delivered > to > an address of someone who is there all day long during business > hours, > right? Ok, what do you normally do about this? What if we don't > have > a friend in business at Madisonville? The owner or manager of the > "business" has to sign. > > Second, it asks your relationship to the deceased. I am not > next-of-kin, I'm "other," which means that I'll have to tell what > "other" I am. Should I put that I am the "family historian" or > something like that? Or, should I have one of Uncle Dave's > descendants > sign the form rather than me? > > Last, you have to have someone from the cemetery sign the form > stating > that it is Ok for the stone to be placed there. Is this an > absolutely > rigid requirement? What about rural cemeteries with no cemetery > association? Do you have to go to the county commissioner over that > > precinct for a signature, or what? > > Steven, I know you, yourself, always order the style of stone that > is > laid on the ground flat, and that you have your friends in the Sons > of > Confederate Veterans lay it in place for you; but, what if you want > the > upright stone? Do you have to get a monument company to install it > in > a solid base, or what? If so, do you have any idea what it would > cost? > > I might add that, from what I can figure out, all Confederate Vets > get > the Southern Cross of Honor on their stones, right? What if you > specify a different emblem, will they do it, or must you have only > the > Cross of Honor? > > I apologize to the List for being so long winded, but I really feel > > that it's important to honor those Confederate vets whose resting > places we can identify. We (my generation) are going to be the > last, > surely, with any knowledge of these unmarked graves. Of course, we > > should also consider placing Confederate markers on graves of vets > who > are buried with a marker but with no CSA designation. > > Last, let me amend this to include ALL Civil War vets. My husband's > > great-grandfather fought for the Union army, out of Barren County, > Kentucky. We know what cemetery he was buried in, in Minnesota, but > > the records of the grave site have been lost due to a fire. He > would > be a good candidate for a memorial marker, right, Steven? > > Thanks, Steven, for your expertise! > > Karen Hett > > > ==== BARRETT-REUBEN-SC Mailing List ==== > Barrett Surname DNA Project > http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >
In a message dated 4/9/04 11:18:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kmchett@thegateway.net writes: > What about rural cemeteries with no cemetery > association? Do you have to go to the county commissioner over that > precinct for a signature, or what? > Karen, From mine and Jim's research on Burroughs cemetery I found out that it is a county cemetery, so surely someone at the courthouse would sign it?? Jan