Hello All, Just wanted to welcome Steven Mitchell to the list. And to let the Joseph descendants know that Gerry Dickens sent me a file today on Richrd Stancel Barrett which I posted this morning. I also added some backgrounds and graphics to the pages in that section. Hope everyone enjoys and is able to add to their family files from it. Thanks Gerry!!! Your a doll. Hugs, Janet

Hello Joseph researchers, I heard again from Steve Mitchell and wanted to share his e-mail with you in case you can answer any of his questions. Thanks and thanks to Gerry for writing him, Janet Subj: BARRETTS Date: 1/14/03 1:20:39 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Steve Mitchell) To: [email protected] Janet, It was good to hear from you. Your website is GREAT ! I have just also received a very detailed document from another researcher [Gerry Dickens] who had noticed my posting at Genforum. The Barrett clans have been busy! I had visited with Nellie Louise Barrett Faulk, one of Richard Stancel Barrett's daughters back in 1992. I was saddened to see in the Dickens documents that she had passed away back in 1995. Louise had given me some documents that she'd typed up based on information she'd collected herself, and thru her mother's uncle, Robert C. Mitchell. Robert is the brother of Susie Mitchell's father, George Turner Mitchell. George, of course, was married to Henrietta Hemingway. Louise's transcript outlines her parents as well as her 13 siblings. There are conflicts of names and sibling count between that of your website, the Dickens documents and other documents we have. While Louise speaks of 13 siblings + herself, yours speaks of 15 in all, and Dickens speaks of 12 in all. I'm going to study in-depth this weekend and lay it all out...hopefully with some clarity. Louise's document also speaks of her Grandparents, John Napoleon Barrett and Elizabeth Watson., and their 10 children. There is even some lineage on Elizabeth. What throws us off with Louise's document is her claim that her GreatGrandfather was an Elisha Barrett, not Joseph as recorded by all the Barrett researchers we've seen across the years. She names Elisha as her GreatGrandfather and names only three sons, John Napoleon, Reuben [who married Elizabeth Watson's sister, Amanda Watson] and Elisha, Jr. John Napoleon and Elizabeth also had a son, Elisha, who died at 12 years old. What do you make of the "Elisha" claim? We'd be most excited to help each other fill in the gaps in our ancestries. Let us know what your immediate needs or roadblocks are and we'll see if we can help. Meanwhile, I'll compare your documents against our data and am certain that we'll speak again shortly! R/Steven ........................................... S T E V E N M I T C H E L L 24W268 Hemlock Lane Naperville, IL 60540

thanks Gerry!!!

I answered Steven, Janet. I am not from Richard Stancil Barrett, but close to it. He was my granduncle. Perhaps he will join or at least tell us how he fits in. Regards, Gerry

We have agreed to place a marker in the Tyger Baptist Church Cemetery at the location of the two stones marked RB and HB. We have also agreed to try to place a DAR emblem on the marker. As you may know Marilyn has been trying to obtain DAR approval for the emblem. Today she asked, "Do you know who has the documented evidence that these are in fact Hannah and Reuben Barretts' graves? DAR will want to know. A source from a publication is acceptable." Let's be realistic, anyone could have come along and placed two stones in the cemetery after scratching the letters RB and HB in them. Looking at the pictures of the stones, the scratched letters could be new, compared to 1814. If we assume that the letters do date back to 1814, what proof do we have that these are the stones for Reuben and Hannah. Do you think DAR will believe that there were only two people in the area with those initials? Please understand, I'm not questioning this, but I am trying to look at it from the DAR's point of view. If you have anything we need it now. Please send me copies as soon as possible and post to the list what you have sent. Thanks. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Barrett Family Reunion - Greenville, SC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barrettbranches/reunion2003.html

The balance in the marker account is now $1,100. Thanks again to all who have been able to help. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Barrett Family Reunion - Greenville, SC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barrettbranches/reunion2003.html

Posted by: <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/email.cgi?106814508">Steven Mitchell</A> (ID *****4508) Date: January 13, 2003 at 04:30:25 In Reply to: <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/barrett/messages/4581.html">Re: Lee M Barrett</A> by Janet Barrett Walker of 4594 Janet, We, too, are descendants of Reuben Barrett. Ours is via Richard Stancil Barrett m. Susie Mitchell. We'd love to study your website data to fill in our blanks and share. Thank you. Steven - Naperville, IL Stevens e-mail address is [email protected] if anyone from this line wants to contact him. I sent him the link to the website and told him about this list so hopefully he will join us soon. Hugs, Janet

Hello All, As most of you know I have been self publishing the 530 page book I compiled Descendants of Reuben Barrett 1755 to 2000, I just wanted to let everyone know that I have signed my books with Higginson Books and they will be publishing them from now on. They had to raise the price on the books a little bit, but anyone who orders them directly from me can get them cheaper. I have never made a profit from the books and I will adjust the price so that it will still be that way, but I have to order them 10 at a time. They will also put two copies in the Library of Congress. I have always felt it wouldn't be right making a profit from everyone else's donated material which made up the books. If you order a book from them thru my website then you will get 10% off of their price. It probably won't be out until about March or April as I just sent the manuscript in last week, but they never said how long it will take. It seems like the reunion is right around the corner now, I am really looking forward to meeting some of you in May. I hope everyone has a great day!!! Janet

Gaye, Thanks for the compliment on the website!! I am always keeping an eye out for your Miles, If I come across him I will let you know. Hope all is well with you and yours, Janet

Kim, Here is a register report from Lee Marion and Katie on down. Lee is descended from George Washington Barrett son of Reuben Barrett Jr, son of Reuben Barrett of South Carolina. The Reuben Barrett website address is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barrettbranches/ Just click on the Reuben Box or you can go straight to the Reuben Barrett Jr to see information on that line There is also a link on the index page to join the Reuben Barrett of South Carolina Rootsweb link. We are planning a reunion in May 2003 and also we are putting a headstone on Reuben Barrett and Hannah Barrett's graves. We also have a DNA program going...lots of exciting things! Please feel free to browse the website and contact anyone who's e-mail address is on there as well as mine. I created the website and I also maintain it. If you would like to add your line to the website please let me know we are always looking for new cousins. It is so nice to "meet " you and I look forward to corresponding with you more Descendants of Lee Marion Barrett Generation No. 1 1. LEE MARION4 BARRETT (GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born January 03, 1880 in MS, and died November 01, 1939 in Sebastopol, MS. He married (1) KATIE LOUVENIA PHILLIPS April 10, 1902. She was born January 21, 1885 in MS, and died February 24, 1931 in Sebastopol, MS. He married (2) VELMA FAULKNER September 16, 1933. She was born in Hillsboro, MS. Children of LEE BARRETT and KATIE PHILLIPS are: 2. i. BERTHA KATE5 BARRETT. 3. ii. ROBERT LEROY BARRETT, b. March 20, 1903; d. January 30, 1961. 4. iii. LACY LEON BARRETT, b. February 24, 1905; d. January 01, 1963, Sepastopol, MS. 5. iv. WILLIAM GUY BARRETT, b. February 05, 1907, Leake Co., MS. 6. v. NAOMI MAE BARRETT, b. February 11, 1909, Leake Co., MS; d. November 28, 1972, Van Cleave, MS. 7. vi. LENA PEARL BARRETT, b. August 25, 1911, Leake Co., MS; d. May 18, 1974, Leake Co., MS. 8. vii. GEORGE FRANKLIN BARRETT, b. September 09, 1913; d. April 11, 1980. 9. viii. EUDORA AILENE BARRETT, b. March 22, 1916. 10. ix. IRIS ZONE BARRETT, b. July 31, 1918, Carthage, Leake Co., MS. 11. x. MARVIN WESLEY BARRETT, b. August 16, 1921. 12. xi. BLANCHE BEATRICE BARRETT, b. January 30, 1924, Leake Co., MS. Generation No. 2 2. BERTHA KATE5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) She married CARLTON JONES. Children of BERTHA BARRETT and CARLTON JONES are: i. LINDA6 JONES, m. BILLY BARNETT. ii. MCQUA JONES, m. SANDRA UNKNOWN. iii. COLBERT JONES, m. SHIRLEY UNKNOWN. 3. ROBERT LEROY5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born March 20, 1903, and died January 30, 1961. He married ALMA ROGERS. She was born August 03, 1903, and died December 04, 1991. Children of ROBERT BARRETT and ALMA ROGERS are: i. ROBERT LEROY JR.6 BARRETT, d. August 11, 1926, Scott Co., MS. ii. JIMMIE BARRETT, d. May 07, 1940, Scott Co., MS. 4. LACY LEON5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born February 24, 1905, and died January 01, 1963 in Sepastopol, MS. He married EULA MAE WATKINS July 22, 1925. She died November 15, 1988. Children of LACY BARRETT and EULA WATKINS are: i. GENEVA BELL6 BARRETT, b. Deemer, MS. ii. LACY LEON JR. BARRETT, b. Deemer, MS. iii. ELVIE WILLIS BARRETT, b. September 10, 1929, Madden, MS; m. DEAN MABLE BROOKS; b. February 24, 1932, Starkville, Oktibbeha, MS; d. September 01, 1987, Forest, MS. iv. ROBERT GRANDVILLE BARRETT, b. June 04, 1935; d. 1953. v. EDNA LOUVENIA BARRETT, b. July 01, 1939, Sebastopol, MS; m. MELBOURN EZELL, November 27, 1958. 5. WILLIAM GUY5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born February 05, 1907 in Leake Co., MS. He married RUBY MYRTLE GILMER January 26, 1926. She was born November 21, 1908, and died January 20, 1973 in Sebastopol, MS. Children of WILLIAM BARRETT and RUBY GILMER are: i. WILLIE MELVIN6 BARRETT. ii. PAULA FAY BARRETT. iii. AUDIE MAE BARRETT. iv. GEORGE EATHAN BARRETT, d. 1930. v. THOMAS MAXWELL BARRETT. vi. MYRTLE DEVON BARRETT, b. March 02, 1938, Itawamba Co., MS; m. SHERRAL H. STEWART, June 08, 1956. 6. NAOMI MAE5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born February 11, 1909 in Leake Co., MS, and died November 28, 1972 in Van Cleave, MS. She married MADISON GOSS. Children of NAOMI BARRETT and MADISON GOSS are: i. HELEN RUTH6 GOSS, m. TROY MONK. ii. WINNIE LEE GOSS, m. SYLVESTER GOFORTH. iii. JAMES ROY GOSS, m. GRACE PACE. iv. WILLIE DEAN GOSS, m. MACK BOSORGE. v. HOWARD GOSS, m. LOIS UNKNOWN. vi. MYRTIS GOSS, m. BILL MCDANIEL. vii. MALCOLM GOSS, m. DALE UNKNOWN. viii. SARAH ALICE GOSS, m. RAY BRAGG. ix. ALBERT GOSS, m. SHARON UNKNOWN. x. WAYMAN GOSS, m. CHARLENE UNKNOWN. xi. FREDDIE GOSS, m. KAREN UNKNOWN. xii. DEBBIE GOSS, m. JULIUS FOUNTIAN. xiii. PATSY GOSS, m. TRAVIS ROBERTS. xiv. MARIE GOSS, m. JACK CRABTREE. 7. LENA PEARL5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born August 25, 1911 in Leake Co., MS, and died May 18, 1974 in Leake Co., MS. She married JOHN HENRY PERKINS. Children of LENA BARRETT and JOHN PERKINS are: i. DORIS MAE6 PERKINS, b. March 03, 1940, Neshoba Co., MS; m. JAMES ALFRED CUPIT; b. May 20, 1933, Franklin, MS. ii. DALTON RAY PERKINS, b. December 14, 1948; m. JERALYN WAGGONER. iii. BILLY JOHN PERKINS, b. October 08, 1950; m. CAROL KING. iv. JAMES LARRY PERKINS, b. October 07, 1952; m. MARSHA UNKNOWN. v. JERRY DALE PERKINS, b. September 21, 1954. 8. GEORGE FRANKLIN5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born September 09, 1913, and died April 11, 1980. He married ANNIE LUCILLE ROBERTSON July 30, 1938. Children of GEORGE BARRETT and ANNIE ROBERTSON are: i. DORTHY ANN6 BARRETT, b. November 22, 1939; m. (1) HUSTON LOTT, September 21, 1962; b. October 22, 1918; d. October 16, 1977; m. (2) ESTUS UPTON, March 11, 1984; b. August 12, 1923. ii. MARY RUTH BARRETT, b. June 30, 1946; m. JOHN BOGARD BLACKWELL; b. July 03, 1943; d. July 19, 1988, Jackson.MS.. 9. EUDORA AILENE5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born March 22, 1916. She married JESS WOODROW WATKINS August 18, 1934. He was born October 25, 1914, and died August 08, 1977. Children of EUDORA BARRETT and JESS WATKINS are: i. PAULINE6 WATKINS, b. July 05, 1937, Dixon.MS; m. (1) SAMUEL MITCHELL, November 04, 1956; b. July 16, 1931; m. (2) TRAVIS PYLE, June 13, 1970; b. January 07, 1921. ii. ELLAREE WATKINS, b. January 25, 1944. iii. ANDREW MARION WATKINS, b. December 13, 1945. iv. NOLAN GLEN WATKINS, b. December 20, 1947. v. SHIRLEY FAY WATKINS, b. June 03, 1956. 10. IRIS ZONE5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born July 31, 1918 in Carthage, Leake Co., MS. She married HUBERT ELIOUS ROLAND March 10, 1935. He was born May 07, 1910 in Hillsboro.MS. Children of IRIS BARRETT and HUBERT ROLAND are: i. IRIS LYNETTE6 ROLAND. ii. HUBERT LINFORD ROLAND, b. January 29, 1936, Lena, MS; d. August 18, 1974; m. JOSEPHINE BURK; b. June 14, 1937. iii. GEORGIA LAURETT ROLAND, b. September 12, 1937; d. April 05, 1949. iv. CARL LYNWOOD ROLAND, b. September 10, 1939, Carthage, Leake Co., MS; m. GLENDA SWAIN. v. CHARLES WAYNE ROLAND, b. November 24, 1944; m. GWENDOLYN LEA MCMILLAN. 11. MARVIN WESLEY5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born August 16, 1921. He married OLJA GALLOWAY. Children of MARVIN BARRETT and OLJA GALLOWAY are: i. MARVIN L.6 BARRETT. ii. TOMMY BARRETT. 12. BLANCHE BEATRICE5 BARRETT (LEE MARION4, GEORGE WASHINGTON "DOC"3, REUBEN JR.2, REUBEN1) was born January 30, 1924 in Leake Co., MS. She married EDWARD RUDOLPH PERKINS August 15, 1942. Children of BLANCHE BARRETT and EDWARD PERKINS are: i. EDWARD6 PERKINS, m. MONICA UNKNOWN. ii. BRENDA JOYCE PERKINS, m. LOUIS JR. MILLER. iii. MYRA ANN PERKINS, m. EDWARD JR. GINGERELLA. iv. JEFFERY PERKINS. v. BRYAN JASON PERKINS.

Hello All, I found a note that says that a letter was mentioned in the notes of Dr. Jackson that a grandson referred to Nancy Barrett Barton as "Aunt Nancy". I don't know if David Jackson is still on this list or not, but if you are could you please confirm this for me. Thanks, Janet

Karen, Ok , now I need to go thru all my records and find the name of the person who was supposed to send me a copy of the letter on Nancy Barrett Barton. Until then I will take it off of the website. Janet

In a message dated 1/5/03 12:25:47 PM, [email protected] writes: << I believe it was Karen who told me about it. >> Not me, Janet. But maybe someone will come forward and tell the details about how it was found, who wrote it, the date of the letter, and who owns it now, etc. This would indeed be a break-through! Unfortunately, it is not destined to be part of our research records without the source and a copy being "out there." The best thing you could do would be to start with the person who told you about it. Karen

In a message dated 1/5/03 12:56:48 PM, [email protected] writes: <<I HATE it when I'm searching for information - and come across someone's web site and see that they've taken my info (more likely than not - PARTS of my info without giving adequate disclaimer, etc.) that I've used to base a theory on, or a lead that I'm searching out but haven't proven yet, but they state it as FACT. I HATE THAT!!! >> Dina, I come across that all the time; in fact, it really turned me off of genealogy research on the Internet at the beginning. The people with the technical proficiency to get on the Internet in those days were the ones whose genealogical proficiency could be placed in a thimble. If you asked someone for a source, you got either no answer or DUuhhhhh. Another example of people lifting one's writings: when I first "met" Janet, she had papers that some of her cousins had written, with much of my "stuff" incorporated in the body of their papers and with no references whatsoever (some were taken from county histories). When these things are passed around and around, I have to feel sorry for anyone who tries to document the statements in them. If at least the book of publication is mentioned, then the reader can look up that history and find out who submitted the story. I ALWAYS want to find the original, original source of everything. Once, a few years ago, I came across a book which listed Reuben Barrett as a Rev. War participant from S. C. There were about 6 sources listed by his name, and I recognized that some sources I had not seen. So, I went to the Interlibrary loan desk at the little local library and started ordering each of these books (I actually asked for Xerox copies of the appropriate pages knowing that the really old books don't circulate) and stuck with her until she was able to find ALL of them! I was concerned that there might have been some original paper work on Reuben's service that I had missed. This is just one example of striving to find original sources. I think it's extremely inconsiderate and thoughtless for anyone to offer ANY genealogical fact or story without making it clear how the reader can access the source. I firmly believe that YOU should look at the document in its original form and YOU should make the interpretation of that document. YOU might have an entirely different take on it. As an example, YOUR qualifications for interpreting the old handwriting correctly in the light of the historical significance might be far above those of the person who circulated the writing. That's the real reason that provenance is important. But, I agree, it does cut to the core when you find the things you wrote "out there" with no source. There have always been bad genealogists, and they have proliferated due to the ease of the Internet. It's a problem that's not going away soon. Karen

sorry but I have A new e-mail address [email protected] have A nice day bill barrett

Here are somehidden marriage records from MS: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mskemper/vital/courtminutes.htm

In a message dated 1/5/03 1:38:20 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > If you have a copy of this letter, I sure would like to have a copy Jim, I don't have a copy of it, but am trying to get a copy of it, sorry I wasn't clearer when I said this. Janet

If you have a copy of this letter, I sure would like to have a copy and I'll bet Karen would also. About a month ago I asked, on this list, if anyone had proof that Arthur Barrett, who married Rebecca Barton (I said Nancy Barton in error earlier) and our Reuben were brothers. So far no one has mentioned any. I'm still waiting to see any proof that three were siblings. I don't consider transcribed documents as proof. I have seen to many errors. "I believe it was Karen who told me about it. Maybe she can clarify it, but you know how she is, she won't state a fact unless she is positive that it is true." And I agree with her. Stating something as fact when you don't have proof it where the problems start. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Barrett Family Reunion - Greenville, SC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barrettbranches/reunion2003.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Barrett-Reuben-SC] Reuben Barrett Query Posts Jim, Yes there has been proof found that Nancy Baarrett Barton is in fact the sister of Reuben and Arthur. A letter was found by one of her grandchildren or great grandchildren who mentions "Uncle Reuben" or a granchild of Reuben who mentions "Aunt Nancy Barton" or something like that. I have been trying to get a transcription of the letter. Iwill post it on the site if i can ever get permission for it. I believe it was Karen who told me about it. Maybe she can clarify it, but you know how she is, she won't state a fact unless she is positive that it is true. As far as Hannah's maiden name being "Doty" what I always do is put a "?" behind the name. I do not know of anyone who has found any proof of her last name either. What gets me is when someone uses my name to state me as a source on false information. I think I found someones file once who said you were a source that had proof that William Barrett was the father of Reuben Barrett, then when I asked you about it you knew nothing about it. I agree we all should set an example for new genealogists and how they should document their facts and sources. When I first started genealogy my mentor was very hard on me about finding "solid proof" before ever stating any facts. It is something I always try to stick to. (if not she will yell at me -haha) And I hope that if anyone ever finds any errors on the website that you will let me know. Janet

Jim, Yes there has been proof found that Nancy Baarrett Barton is in fact the sister of Reuben and Arthur. A letter was found by one of her grandchildren or great grandchildren who mentions "Uncle Reuben" or a granchild of Reuben who mentions "Aunt Nancy Barton" or something like that. I have been trying to get a transcription of the letter. Iwill post it on the site if i can ever get permission for it. I believe it was Karen who told me about it. Maybe she can clarify it, but you know how she is, she won't state a fact unless she is positive that it is true. As far as Hannah's maiden name being "Doty" what I always do is put a "?" behind the name. I do not know of anyone who has found any proof of her last name either. What gets me is when someone uses my name to state me as a source on false information. I think I found someones file once who said you were a source that had proof that William Barrett was the father of Reuben Barrett, then when I asked you about it you knew nothing about it. I agree we all should set an example for new genealogists and how they should document their facts and sources. When I first started genealogy my mentor was very hard on me about finding "solid proof" before ever stating any facts. It is something I always try to stick to. (if not she will yell at me -haha) And I hope that if anyone ever finds any errors on the website that you will let me know. Janet

If you have sent me a donation for the Barrett marker and have not received a message from me letting you know I received it please contact me. If you send a donation please include your e-mail address so I can let you know when I do receive the donation. I have received two donations in the last week or so that I have not been able to report to the donor. Again, thanks to those who have been able to make a donation. We are getting closer. $975.00 received. $1728.05 required. 56%. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX [email protected] Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Barrett Family Reunion - Greenville, SC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barrettbranches/reunion2003.html