Clarence,   I was really suprised that you differed from me on so many markers in the 26 - 37 group. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Clarence Barrett <cabarrett2@verizon.net> wrote: From: Clarence Barrett <cabarrett2@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website To: barrett-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 11:18 AM Next stop - 67 Thanks, Jim.

Kits 151615 and 157041 have been added.  Both kits have markers 1 - 12.  I still need ancestor information for kit 157041.   Kit 151615 (ENG-20) and kit 156870 (ENG-18) appear to list the same two men as their two most distant ancestors and they are exact 12 marker matches.  If they'll send me a note confirming they share one or more common ancestors I'll make them the same family branch.  Did you know of this relationship before you joined the project?   WARNING!!!  If RootsWeb can not deliver messages to you they WILL remove you from this list.  I don't remove people unless they have become a real pain and they will know I'm going to do it before I do.  PLEASE keep your e-mail addresses current.  That is the only way we can reach you.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit N25827.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Jim... can you please put me in touch with kit # 28688? Send him an e-mail, give me his e-mail address, or give him mine, whatever works. Thanks, Raymond Barrett, 142444 (tdms@oregoncoast.com)

Hi Jim, Thanks for including us on the website. I saw that you sent the notice, but the information below is OK to include as well. I appreciate your opinion that he is not a genetic Barrett. I do see those other three families. I was commenting to my husband that it is odd that his DNA sample has 5 people who match, compared to my cousin who tested and has over a thousand 12 marker matches plus about 15 people at 25 and 37 markers. I know the 12 marker doesn't mean a lot, but it does seem strange to me that one has so few and one has so many. Thanks for your help! Ronda -----Original Message----- From: barrett-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:barrett-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:19 PM To: barrett-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website Ronda,   I'll add your kit to our website.  My personal opinion is that he is not a genetic Barrett.  He closest match to a Barrett is a genetic distance of 8 for 37 markers.  This isn't out of the ball park, but it is high.  Looking at his matches he is much closer to the McLaughlin or Loughridge (Lockridge Lochridge) families.  I'm guessing the last three all come form the same line.  I believe at least three of these matches have tested to 67 markers so it might be interesting to upgrade to see what happens to his matches.   Of course it is possible that he descends from a Barrett family that hasn't tested yet.   If it is okay with you when I add him I'll include the following in the notice: "He was a forger who used 4 first names and 4 last names.  The first I can find was Edward Barrett in 1908.  He was Charles Howard in 1911, James Harris in 1919 and Robert Williams in 1928."   If you want to send additional information I'll be happy to include it. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Steve & Ronda Howard <whizinc@comcast.net> wrote: From: Steve & Ronda Howard <whizinc@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website To: barrett-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 3:22 PM Hi Jim, Would you add our kit #134751 onto your website.  We are the Edward Barrett - Charles Howard family.  He was a forger who used 4 first names and 4 last names.  The first I can find was Edward Barrett in 1908.  He was Charles Howard in 1911, James Harris in 1919 and Robert Williams in 1928.  I have a letter from California law enforcement asking Washington law enforcement whether he was the same guy.  They concluded he was.  Anyways, I'd like to be included on your list just in case we really are Barretts!  Do I need to send you the information?  We tested with Family Tree DNA. Thanks, Ronda Howard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BARRETT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kit 134751 with markers 1 - 37 has been added.  A family line has not been included as at least four different surnames were used by the ancestor.   Markers 13 - 25 have been added for N25827.  This kit which is an exact 25 marker match with me and is not for a known relative. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Ronda,   I'll add your kit to our website.  My personal opinion is that he is not a genetic Barrett.  He closest match to a Barrett is a genetic distance of 8 for 37 markers.  This isn't out of the ball park, but it is high.  Looking at his matches he is much closer to the McLaughlin or Loughridge (Lockridge Lochridge) families.  I'm guessing the last three all come form the same line.  I believe at least three of these matches have tested to 67 markers so it might be interesting to upgrade to see what happens to his matches.   Of course it is possible that he descends from a Barrett family that hasn't tested yet.   If it is okay with you when I add him I'll include the following in the notice: "He was a forger who used 4 first names and 4 last names.  The first I can find was Edward Barrett in 1908.  He was Charles Howard in 1911, James Harris in 1919 and Robert Williams in 1928."   If you want to send additional information I'll be happy to include it. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Steve & Ronda Howard <whizinc@comcast.net> wrote: From: Steve & Ronda Howard <whizinc@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website To: barrett-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 3:22 PM Hi Jim, Would you add our kit #134751 onto your website.  We are the Edward Barrett - Charles Howard family.  He was a forger who used 4 first names and 4 last names.  The first I can find was Edward Barrett in 1908.  He was Charles Howard in 1911, James Harris in 1919 and Robert Williams in 1928.  I have a letter from California law enforcement asking Washington law enforcement whether he was the same guy.  They concluded he was.  Anyways, I'd like to be included on your list just in case we really are Barretts!  Do I need to send you the information?  We tested with Family Tree DNA. Thanks, Ronda Howard

Hi Jim, Would you add our kit #134751 onto your website. We are the Edward Barrett - Charles Howard family. He was a forger who used 4 first names and 4 last names. The first I can find was Edward Barrett in 1908. He was Charles Howard in 1911, James Harris in 1919 and Robert Williams in 1928. I have a letter from California law enforcement asking Washington law enforcement whether he was the same guy. They concluded he was. Anyways, I'd like to be included on your list just in case we really are Barretts! Do I need to send you the information? We tested with Family Tree DNA. Thanks, Ronda Howard -----Original Message----- From: barrett-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:barrett-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Barrett Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:42 PM To: BARRETT-DNA-L Subject: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website Kit 154838 with markers 1 - 12 has been added.  There are several matches.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BARRETT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kit 154838 with markers 1 - 12 has been added.  There are several matches.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

I'm really lost here, Jim, Which test do I need to order for this upgrade and do we have to do the cheek scraping again? This will have to go to my nephew in another state if we do another scraping, so I need to be sure what I'm doing. My cousin in VA is almost 86 years old and has asked me if I could find if we go back to Wales for several years now. Thanks! Linda (Powell) Garrett ---- Jim Barrett <parino@flash.net> wrote: > Below is a message I received this morning.  It may apply to more members of the Powell group than of the Barrett group.  I have told him that the three members he asked about have not had  a deep clade test. >   > If you are interested you can visit their website at www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L21/ or you can e-mail him.  As you know I don't share your e-mail addresses in most cases. > > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX > Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm > Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm > Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michael Walsh <mwwalsh7@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Michael Walsh <mwwalsh7@gmail.com> > Subject: Barrett's in Welsh / Irish superclan in R-L21* clade ? > To: "Jim Barrett" <parino@flash.net> > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:48 AM > > > Hello, Jim. > > I'm a project co-admin for the RL21Plus project. > > I noticed (via connections to the Banks surname project) that some > Barrett's match into a sub-cluster in R-L21* that includes a lot of > Welsh and Norman families. > > >From your web site > http://home.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   60913 > looks like a member of this cluster. > > 60913      IRE-7      MDKA - Martin Barrett of Ireland > > In Ysearch, UQCFX Barrett - Maryland and NYJ3J Barrett - New York also > look to fit.  UQCFX for sure when looking at all 67 markers. > > Do you have email or contact information for any of these Barrett's? > Do you know if they have done deep clade R testing? > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Michael W. Walsh > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWELL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Below is a message I received this morning.  It may apply to more members of the Powell group than of the Barrett group.  I have told him that the three members he asked about have not had  a deep clade test.   If you are interested you can visit their website at www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L21/ or you can e-mail him.  As you know I don't share your e-mail addresses in most cases. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michael Walsh <mwwalsh7@gmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Walsh <mwwalsh7@gmail.com> Subject: Barrett's in Welsh / Irish superclan in R-L21* clade ? To: "Jim Barrett" <parino@flash.net> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:48 AM Hello, Jim. I'm a project co-admin for the RL21Plus project. I noticed (via connections to the Banks surname project) that some Barrett's match into a sub-cluster in R-L21* that includes a lot of Welsh and Norman families. >From your web site http://home.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm   60913 looks like a member of this cluster. 60913      IRE-7      MDKA - Martin Barrett of Ireland In Ysearch, UQCFX Barrett - Maryland and NYJ3J Barrett - New York also look to fit.  UQCFX for sure when looking at all 67 markers. Do you have email or contact information for any of these Barrett's? Do you know if they have done deep clade R testing? Thanks. Regards, Michael W. Walsh

Kits 155471 & 156870 have been added.  Each kit has HVR1 and markers 1 - 12.  Both kit have Y-DNA matches with other members!   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kits 6618 & 142444.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Kit 155970 with markers 1 - 12 has been added. Markers 26 - 37 have been added to kit 20975.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Gale,   He is kit 91221. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Gale Creel <lilgiggle@msn.com> wrote: From: Gale Creel <lilgiggle@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Our Website To: barrett-dna@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:20 AM Hello Jim, We just received the first 12 markers back on Marlon Barrett 155970 and he matched a william david barrett  with 1 marker off.... I have emailed him but I was wondering if you could tell me his kit number so I could look at your website and see if he has the lineage posted on it to check him out... Jan and I split the cost of doing this dna  project and I am helping her with this. any help would be appreciated. Gale Cole Creel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BARRETT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jim, We just received the first 12 markers back on Marlon Barrett 155970 and he matched a william david barrett with 1 marker off.... I have emailed him but I was wondering if you could tell me his kit number so I could look at your website and see if he has the lineage posted on it to check him out... Jan and I split the cost of doing this dna project and I am helping her with this. any help would be appreciated. Gale Cole Creel

Markers 26 - 67 have been added for kit 28688 and HVR1 results have been added for kit 155970.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Kit ANC08 has been added. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Markers 38 - 67 have been added to kit 49522.   Thanks. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm

Hi Jim, I know Sondra Lee. She thinks she is a descendent of Rev. Robert Barret, brother to my ggg grandfather Charles Barret from Louisa Co., VA. Bonnie Shelton #149634 -Barrett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barrett" <parino@flash.net> To: <sondraglee@comcast.net> Cc: "BARRETT-DNA-L" <BARRETT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [BARRETT-DNA] Barretts GA & AL Sondra, I don't recognize this family but I'm sending a copy of the message to the Barrett Surname DNA mailing list. If someone doe recognize them I hope they will contact you. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX Please Help Benjaman Kyle http://home.flash.net/~parino/bkyle.htm Barrett Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm Powell Surname DNA Project http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm --- On Tue, 7/21/09, sondraglee@comcast.net <sondraglee@comcast.net> wrote: From: sondraglee@comcast.net <sondraglee@comcast.net> Subject: Barretts To: Parino@flash.net Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 2:15 PM #yiv50209201 p {margin:0;} I am researching my ancestor Nancy Barrett who married John C Hanson in Morgan co, GA 1825. Indications are that her father might have been Robert Barrett as the JP of his census district performed the marriage. She was born in 1809 in GA and died in Lee Co, AL about 1888. These are the names of her children: William Harrison, Armstead Tapley, Martha, Elihu, Peter S, Elizabeth, Amamda, John C, Francis or Frances, and Josephus. Robert was most likely born between 1775 and 1785 based on his census records and an extimate of his age. Do these people fit anywhere in your files or DNA results? I know that there was a Samuel in Robert's census district in 1820 but he was not old enough to be her father. By 1830 Robert and Samuel are gone and I have no idea where they went. In 1840 a Robert Barrett is found in Randolph Co, AL where Nancy and John lived until about 1850. Thanks for your help. Sondra Lee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BARRETT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message