Peter - This is fantastic and obviously looks very close to the mark. My Gran once mentioned she didn't really know her birthday as they were never celebrated in the orphanage - so the chances of the dates being off are very likely. Have no idea how she came up with her birthday... but always wondered if she just picked it (as it's a week after Grandad's and she is not at all Sagittarian like). Ok now... I am not so savvy with all this genea stuff, and am just finding my wings with the online searches... how do I go about ordering the certificates? And what is the FRC - I guess it is some sort of Record Centre, but not one I am familiar with. I know the Manchester Records centre, but that's obviously not it. Would you mind letting me know who I contact and how I go about taking the next step? Sorry, if I appear a dunce. I will go make a hat and sit in the corner with my notes, and promise to be real quiet for a bit. Seriously, thankyou, so much - for taking the time to do this. I realise it must have taken some time, and I really do appreciate it. I will keep my fingers crossed, that they are the ones. I look forward to hearing what I do with this excitement! Nic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dauncey" <peter@dauncey54.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Violet and Stanley > Hi again Kim & Nicki, > > Now that I've looked through the notes I made at the FRC yesterday, I'd > put > money on these two being the ones you want: > > Year, Quarter, Surname, Forenames, MaidenName, District, Vol, Page > 1920, Jun, Barraclough, Stanley, Barraclough, Chorlton, 8c, 1479 > 1922, Mar, Barraclough, Violet M., Barraclough, Chorlton, 8c, 1248 > > If you'd like the details of the other Stanleys (2 Barracloughs, 1 > Barrowcliffe and 1 Barrowclough) just let me know, but I'm optimistic that > if you order birth certificates for these two they will prove to be the > right ones. Chorlton is in the Manchester area, and the middle initial is > right for Violet Miriam. They're just a bit younger than Nicki thought. > > Best wishes, Peter >