Hi Peter, Could that be the same Abraham that was bap. 11th July 1761 at Low Moor Holy Trinity,som of Francis B.and Hannah Tordoff ? [According to my own limited database.] Or is it a different combination of Francis/Abraham altogether ? HELP KIM !!!I'm drowning in a sea of Francis's and Abrahams !!!! Cheers-------Derek 1 [still pretty desperate]