Sorry Jeff & Mark, I've just seen that Mark has already replied. Do you know any more about the Gilbert B who married Agnes Sharp in Oct 1599? He's not the same one who married Margaret Moore in 1580? Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "louise & mark currie" <mlcurrie@bigpond.com> To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] The Barraclough's of Eccleshill > Jeff > Mark Barraclough from Brisbane has information on this family, from which > both he and I are descended. The information he's given me is different to > what you have, but I don't know how certain he is of his facts. Mark, can > you shed any light on this? > > I've got Abraham of Eccleshill as being born in 1611 in Horton, son of > Mychael Barowclough, who was born in 1581 in Hipperholme. His parents were > Gilbert b1543 Hipperholme and Margaret Moore, married 1580. Gilbert was the > son of John and Genet. > > Louise Currie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Sutcliffe" <Jeff.Sutcliffe@btinternet.com> > To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:28 AM > Subject: [BARRACLOUGH] The Barraclough's of Eccleshill > > > The earliest Barraclough's I have so far come across who lived in Eccleshill > are Abraham and Mary Ogden who married at Bradford in 1628. > Abraham made a Will (1675) leaving property in Northowram to his son George. > Abraham and Mary's eldest son was called Henry baptised in 1629, named after > his father, perhaps? > > I was researching some of the Wakefield Manor Court Rolls, when I realised > that, surprisingly, Eccleshill was part of the ancient Manor of Wakefield, > and put two and two together. > The Wakefield Manor was one of the largest in the country and included such > places as Halifax, Hipperholme, Shelf, Lightcliffe, and Northowram; but not > Wibsey, North Bierley, Bradford or Birstall. > This means that Shelf and Northowram would have been the closest parts of > 'mainland' Wakefield Manor to Eccleshill and would have made a move from > Hipperholme or Northowram to Eccleshill more likely even than to Wibsey. > > What if Abraham Barraclough of Eccleshill was the son of Henry Barraclough > of Northowram baptised 3 Feb 1600? If so, he had a brother George baptised > in 1606. > And what if he also moved to Eccleshill and married Anne Hainsworth at > Calverley on 22 May 1633? > Abraham's father Henry was probably the Henry baptised 10 July 1575, the son > of Gilbert Barraclough of Northowram and who married Agnes Sharpe on 23 > October 1599. > > Could this be the Eccleshill link, or is it just coincidence?? > > > Jeff Sutcliffe > http://www.btinternet.com/~jeff.sutcliffe > Researching Ambler, Baker, Barraclough, Bates, Booth, Broadbent, Brook, > Brown, Chadwick, Collins, Coning, Crowther, Fearnley, Hanson, Hardcastle, > Hartas, Harwood, Holmes, Metcalf, Nowell, Oliver, Pennington, Pollard, > Radcliffe, Roebuck, Routh, Smith, Sugden, Sutcliffe, Tordoff, Ventress, > Walker, Whitaker, Whiteley, Wilkinson, Wilson > All of the Yorkshire Area. > > > ==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== > Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? > Check out "Biographies" at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >

Hi Louise, All I know about Gilbert is on my database of individuals on my web site, but my original being on Access is more searchable. Henry baptised in 1575 son of Gilbert of Northowram had a brother Thomas baptised in 1572. I am not specifically researching the Northowram Barraclough's, of which there were several families at this time. There is no obvious marriage, although there is one at Birstall in April 1566 to Johan Walker. They had a daughter Elizabeth baptised in Birstall in November 1566, but no others baptised there, so it might be him. I'll have more idea when I have sorted out the Hipperholme Gilbert's. Unfortunately the early Parish Registers are not that reliable, as there are gaps and omissions. The Wills could prove to be the best source as they also give details of land as well as relationships. If Mark hadn't done such a good job at deciphering Abraham's Will and spotting the Northowram connection I would not have been able to make the connection. Jeff Sutcliffe http://www.btinternet.com/~jeff.sutcliffe Researching Ambler, Baker, Barraclough, Bates, Booth, Broadbent, Brook, Brown, Chadwick, Collins, Coning, Crowther, Fearnley, Hanson, Hardcastle, Hartas, Harwood, Holmes, Metcalf, Nowell, Oliver, Pennington, Pollard, Radcliffe, Roebuck, Routh, Smith, Sugden, Sutcliffe, Tordoff, Ventress, Walker, Whitaker, Whiteley, Wilkinson, Wilson All of the Yorkshire Area. -----Original Message----- From: louise & mark currie [mailto:mlcurrie@bigpond.com] Sent: 29 May 2004 02:45 To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [BARRACLOUGH] The Barraclough's of Eccleshill Sorry Jeff & Mark, I've just seen that Mark has already replied. Do you know any more about the Gilbert B who married Agnes Sharp in Oct 1599? He's not the same one who married Margaret Moore in 1580? Louise

Hi Louise, I agree with Jeff wholeheartedly on this. We can never really be sure of any family grouping during this period, without some sort of backup Source material, as Jeff has indicated eg: Will's etc. The parish registers alone, are not all that reliable, because not only is some of the handwriting near on impossible to read or decipher. But the registers themselves are more often than not, not reliable in that there are some years missing. And given the common nature of the surname, chances are that there will probably always be Barraclough's baptism, married or buried in those missing years. Then if a will is available, it's a good way of finding out is so and so had a child born during those missing years. As Jeff, has praised Mark, I to eco his prise, as I'm sure you do. Mark and his dad have done a most wonderful job, in researching the Eccleshill Barraclough's and by him ordering the will of Abraham, proved a backup source of what he had found in the parish registers. Therefore I would urge anyone who has researched their Barraclough family and find a will in Jeff's magnificent wills index to go ahead and order it, if they think it belongs to them. It can prove and be a backup for what you find in the Parish Registers. As for my own lot, I hope to try and purchase as many of the earlier will's from Jeff's index as I can afford, over the next 12 mths. Simply to try and place them in our tree, or see if they might be cousins and an off shot of our tree. At the moment though, I am still having the Deeds Index's transcribed by Brian Jones. He has transcribed up to Caleb Heaton Barraclough during the time period 1864 - 1879. I have instructed Brian that when he has transcribed down to the letter Z for this time period to stop. I have spent a considerable amount of money on this project and feel that my money, would now be better spent on purchasing some of the earliest will's in Jeff's index to try and help us sort out some of the earlier Barraclough families, and by doing this see if they are a secondary source for what info we have on our Barracloughs. As usual I will be only to happy to share what info we find in the wills by asking Jeff to put a transcript of the will's I purchase on his site. And urge others to do the same if they order any wills. Even if a will does not prove to be of your own tree, then it might just be of some benefit to others in our group. But of course that is entirely up to the person themselves. Regards Kim Cheers Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Sutcliffe" <Jeff.Sutcliffe@btinternet.com> To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [BARRACLOUGH] The Barraclough's of Eccleshill > I'll have more idea when I have sorted out the Hipperholme Gilbert's. > Unfortunately the early Parish Registers are not that reliable, as there are > gaps and omissions. > The Wills could prove to be the best source as they also give details of > land as well as relationships. > If Mark hadn't done such a good job at deciphering Abraham's Will and > spotting the Northowram connection I would not have been able to make the > connection. > -----Original Message----- > From: louise & mark currie [mailto:mlcurrie@bigpond.com] > Sent: 29 May 2004 02:45 > To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fw: [BARRACLOUGH] The Barraclough's of Eccleshill > > Sorry Jeff & Mark, I've just seen that Mark has already replied. > > Do you know any more about the Gilbert B who married Agnes Sharp in Oct > 1599? He's not the same one who married Margaret Moore in 1580? > > Louise > > > > > ==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== > Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? > Check out "Biographies" at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >