Hi Kim, Are all the entries in the form "Forename Surname", or are some of them "ForenameA ForenameB Surname"? The necessary formula would be simpler in the first case. If you'd like to send me what you've got as an attachment, I'll have a crack at it, and announce the formula once I'm sure it works! Peter Dauncey South London, UK

Hi All, I wonder if anyone out there can help us, we have been doing a research of the Judy in Judy Wood's, Her maiden name was Judith Stocks she married 3 times and the second husband being Joseph Barraclough whom she had a son John to, he was known as John'o Judy, In 1851 census they lived at Horse Close Bridge,mother and son, there is mention of a wife but we cannot find her at the moment. When John died in 1869 he was 45 years old, the problem we have got at the moment is we cannot find his burial place, so if anyone knows of a John Barraclough d 1869 aged 45 in the area will you please let me know, it will really be apprieciated. Regards Anne Wigglesworth.

Sorry to use the list for this, but the e-mail address (admittedly 2 years old) that I have for David & Charlotte BARRACLOUGH in Australia is being rejected. If you're still subscribed to this list David, get in touch with me, as I have belatedly realised I do have some information relating to your branch of the family (descendants of Benjamin BARRACLOUGH and Martha Ellen (LUPTON) of Eccleshill). Best wishes, Peter South London, UK

Hi Elizabeth Thank you for your info I think we might have some thing there, I have seen the Barraclough's on Long Row but had no connections but it sounds promising with the Brooke connection, I also have Jonas's son married to a Catherine A Brooke they got married in Birstall and her parents came from there they were William and Judith,I wondered if they were slightly related to Hannah not her brother but could have been cousinsshe was born 1841 and Thomas b 1838 so there could be a connection what do you think At that time Oakenshaw was classed as Birstall so they might have only been there. Regards Anne W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Whiteley" <lizwhiteley@2themeade.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] > Anne > I have a BARRACLOUGH / BROOKE marriage too, but a bit later than yours: > Josiah BARRACLOUGH (b 21/2/1819 Birstall) married Rachel Overend BROOK(E) (b > 13/10/1822 Birstall) on 27/10/1839. Rachel died 1850, but Josiah and > children were at Long Row, N Bierley in 1851. Josiah died 25/9/1873 and was > buried at Holy Trinity Wibsey/Low Moor. > > Do you see a link, at all? > > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne P Wigglesworth" <anne.wigglesworth@btinternet.com> > To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:37 AM > Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] > > > > Hi All, > > With all the pre 1800's about I wonder if anyone can help me with > > my Barraclough's i have 2 with a brick wall they are firstly > > Jonas b 1804/5I believe son of John of Buttershaw he was married to Hannah > > Brooke died 1867 and was buried in Holy Trinity in 1851 census lived at > > Bowling Green Wyke, and on his grave said Jonas of Wibsey but I have not > > found him there. Does he belong to any body else I would like to know. > > Also Joseph b1800 married to Susannah Brewerlived most of his life round > New > > Works at Low Moor do not know when he dies or any parents. > > I have plenty info about them both after, all their families etc but would > > be very pleased if someone has any more info about the both of them.TIA > > Regards Anne Wigglesworth. > > / > > > > > > ==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== > > If replying to a previous message, please make sure you cut out most of > the previous message. This makes people who receive the Digest form of the > List much happier. > > > > > > > > ==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== > Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? > Check out "Biographies" at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html

Hi Jeff, Thank you for the info there seems to be loads of Barraclough men married to Brook/es women I have 2 and Liz has sent me another, rather strange I am going to try and look at it. By the way where do your Browns come from as I have Browns with later Barraclough, and also your Pollards too mine come from Ossett and then Horsham before thatalso all round London, but Pollard is a popular name, let me know anyway we might have a connection some where. Regards Anne W. ----- Original Message ----- /~surreal/barraclough/index.html

Dear Anne, I don't think it's the right one but on my database I have an Ann Brook, born in 1780 who married John Barraclough in 1800 and died in 1844. She made a Will but didn't mention a son Jonas. Jeff Sutcliffe http://www.btinternet.com/~jeff.sutcliffe Researching Ambler, Baker, Barraclough, Bates, Booth, Broadbent, Brook, Brown, Chadwick, Collins, Coning, Crowther, Fearnley, Hanson, Hardcastle, Hartas, Harwood, Holmes, Metcalf, Nowell, Oliver, Pennington, Pollard, Radcliffe, Roebuck, Routh, Smith, Sugden, Sutcliffe, Tordoff, Ventress, Walker, Whitaker, Whiteley, Wilkinson, Wilson All of the Yorkshire Area. -----Original Message----- From: Anne P Wigglesworth [mailto:anne.wigglesworth@btinternet.com] Sent: 01 April 2004 00:37 To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] Hi All, With all the pre 1800's about I wonder if anyone can help me with my Barraclough's i have 2 with a brick wall they are firstly Jonas b 1804/5I believe son of John of Buttershaw he was married to Hannah Brooke died 1867 and was buried in Holy Trinity in 1851 census lived at Bowling Green Wyke, and on his grave said Jonas of Wibsey but I have not found him there. Does he belong to any body else I would like to know. Also Joseph b1800 married to Susannah Brewerlived most of his life round New Works at Low Moor do not know when he dies or any parents. I have plenty info about them both after, all their families etc but would be very pleased if someone has any more info about the both of them.TIA Regards Anne Wigglesworth. / ______________________________

Anne I have a BARRACLOUGH / BROOKE marriage too, but a bit later than yours: Josiah BARRACLOUGH (b 21/2/1819 Birstall) married Rachel Overend BROOK(E) (b 13/10/1822 Birstall) on 27/10/1839. Rachel died 1850, but Josiah and children were at Long Row, N Bierley in 1851. Josiah died 25/9/1873 and was buried at Holy Trinity Wibsey/Low Moor. Do you see a link, at all? Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne P Wigglesworth" <anne.wigglesworth@btinternet.com> To: <BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] > Hi All, > With all the pre 1800's about I wonder if anyone can help me with > my Barraclough's i have 2 with a brick wall they are firstly > Jonas b 1804/5I believe son of John of Buttershaw he was married to Hannah > Brooke died 1867 and was buried in Holy Trinity in 1851 census lived at > Bowling Green Wyke, and on his grave said Jonas of Wibsey but I have not > found him there. Does he belong to any body else I would like to know. > Also Joseph b1800 married to Susannah Brewerlived most of his life round New > Works at Low Moor do not know when he dies or any parents. > I have plenty info about them both after, all their families etc but would > be very pleased if someone has any more info about the both of them.TIA > Regards Anne Wigglesworth. > / > > > ==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== > If replying to a previous message, please make sure you cut out most of the previous message. This makes people who receive the Digest form of the List much happier. > >

Hi All, With all the pre 1800's about I wonder if anyone can help me with my Barraclough's i have 2 with a brick wall they are firstly Jonas b 1804/5I believe son of John of Buttershaw he was married to Hannah Brooke died 1867 and was buried in Holy Trinity in 1851 census lived at Bowling Green Wyke, and on his grave said Jonas of Wibsey but I have not found him there. Does he belong to any body else I would like to know. Also Joseph b1800 married to Susannah Brewerlived most of his life round New Works at Low Moor do not know when he dies or any parents. I have plenty info about them both after, all their families etc but would be very pleased if someone has any more info about the both of them.TIA Regards Anne Wigglesworth. /

Hello again de B A few days ago I wrote to you, via the list ?, as below. Said that Hannah Barraclough was only a possible daughter of Abraham & Betty Oddy. But can now confirm that Hannah as a verified daughter of those two. Am still trying to check on the marriage to Betty ( Elizabeth) Oddy which per the IGI (Member submission only) was on 22 March 1803 at Bradford. But that date would fit in with the births of the children OK. Also check needed on marriage of a Abraham Barraclough & Betty OATES reported on IGI (Member submission again)as at Bradford on 17 April 1786. Was this a first wife ? If so when did she die ? Were there any children ? Regards Pete Hi Possibly the Hannah BARRACLOUGH daughter of Abraham BARRACLOUGH & Bewtty ODDY; who I have as a possible but not sure daughter. If correct my 4th cousin 6 times removed !! And noted Parish Register (Presumed Bradford ?) entry reads: Hannah daughter of Abraham Barraclough, of Bank, Weaver baptised 11th January 1807. The 1881 census for her seems to be Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John SMITH Head M Male 45 North Bierley, York, England Grocer Mary SMITH Wife M Female 42 North Bierley, York, England Benn SMITH Son U Male 23 North Bierley, York, England Grocer Assistant Ruth SMITH Daur U Female 18 North Bierley, York, England Grocer Assistant Oliver SMITH Son Male 13 North Bierley, York, England Scholar Hannah SMITH Mother W Female 73 North Bierley, York, England ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source Information: Dwelling Slack Side Census Place North Bierley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342060 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4435 / 60 Page Number 22 Is this correct ?? de barraclough wrote: >Hi Kim,and Barracloughs World-wide, >Can anyone PLEASE identify this Hannah Barraclough ? >Born--c.1807 ?,in North Bierley. >Married--George Smith,27th.July 1823 at Bradford PC. >In 1841 living Wibsey Slackside. >Hoping somebody,somewhere knows who she was. >Cheers-------Derek 1 > > >==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >For a list of other Rootsweb Mailing Lists world-wide: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > > > >

I didn't see many Barraclough's in Hunslet in 1861 so when I came across these I thought I would put them on list in case anyone is looking for them....and I couldn't resist adding another Betty and Abraham to the mix! :) 1861 Census RG9/3365 fo 43 pg 19 Dwelling:1 Boland Street, Hunslet Betty BARRACLOUGH head 56 lodger house keeper Wibsey, Yorkshire Abraham BARRACLOUGH son 17 Forgeman Wibsey, Yorkshire Paul BARRACLOUGH son 15 Forgeman Wibsey, Yorkshire Ruth Ann BARACLOUGH gd daur Scholar Wibsey, Yorkshire Joseph TAYLOR Lodger um 22 Forgeman Wibsey, Yorkshire Soloman BOTBY?? Lodger unm 18 Forgeman Wibsey, Yorkshire 1861 Census Dwelling 25 Gold Street, Hunslet RG9/3366 fo16 pg 25 Edward HOLMES head mar 40 Engineman at Forge Halifax, Yorkshire Jane HOLMES wife mar 36 Low Moor, Yorkshire James HOLMES son unm 7 Scholar Low Moor, Yorkshire Uriah? BARRACLOUGH Lodger un 22 Forgeman Low Moor, Yorkshire John WILKINSON Lodger un 21 FOrgeman Wibsey, Yorkshire Denise V --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

Hi Jeff Thanks for pointing out that I already have the will of Abraham buried 28 May 1815. I had attached it to the other Abraham buried 4 Oct 1815 ( wife Betty Smith ). And I am pleased thta the brother John's will mentions the son Abraham who was Bapt Jan 1815 after hias father's death. And who was provided for in his father's will by "and if my aforesaid wife should happen to be with Child at the time of my decease, then such child or children to be considered (in all respects) as Coequal Partner with the rest of my Children. " I also see that the Probating bit at the end of the will does refer to Abraham deceased as a Manufacturer. Just another 20 Abrahams to sort out !! Thanks Pete Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: >Hi Peter, > >It looks like you're correct about the children in spite of the occupation >changes. It states in John's Will undated "and the sum of ten pounds to >Betty the widow of my brother Abraham Barraclough and ten pounds to Francis >Barraclough and ten pounds to Hanah Barraclough and ten pounds to Martha >Barraclough and ten pounds to Marey Barraclough and ten pounds to Joseph >Barraclough and ten pounds to Abraham Barraclough those six sons and dauters >of Abraham Barraclough my brother to be paid to them twelve months after my >Disese if they have attained the age of twenty one years and if any of them >have not attained the age of twenty one twelve months after my disease to >have it when they attain the age of twenty one". >Abraham did leave a Will in 1815. When I looked it up I noticed that it was >you who had provided me with the transcript. It confirms the above and also >that the two youngest children were twins. He also refers to his wife as >Elizabeth. >I haven't sent this one to the list. If you have lost or misplaced your copy >of the transcript I will be happy to send you a copy. > >Jeff. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >Sent: 29 March 2004 21:23 >To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! > >Hello Jeff >Thanks for the mail. You can't be any more vague than I am at present ! >I have copies of the wills of Frank & John B. Brothers of young Abraham >(1761 - 1815) >The second marriage theory would certainly run. If so there should be a >burial of Betty Barraclough ( Oates ) >That marriage in 1761 would be possible . Abraham would have been age >25. A good mariagable age. >But no children ??. The first of the next marriage bap 1803. Seems to >be too long a gap. >More work needed. >Looking at the dates I have Abraham died and buried 17 May 1815 age 54 - >at Holy Trinity, Wibsey. >Possibly there is a generation (Anothe Abraham ?) missed out. > >I have the birth of his last child, another Abraham, as bap at Wibsey 24 >Jan 1816 BUT noted as > "Abraham son of Abraham & Elizabeth Barraclough, of Wibsey, >Manufacturer baptised 14 January 1816" >This suggests he has been attached to the wrong family. >As his previous children are all shown as of >Francis son of Abraham Barraclough ofWibsey Stuff Maker,baptised 28 Jul 1803 >Martha daughter of Abraham Barraclough,of Rawnook, Labourer baptised >21st October 1804 >Hannah daughter of Abraham Barraclough, of Bank, Weaver baptised 11th >January 1807 >Mary daughter of Abraham& Betty Barraclough of Wibsey, Labourer, >baptised 1st January 1814 >Joseph son of Abraham & Betty Barraclough, of Wibsey Labourer, baptised >1 Jan 1814 >Abraham son of Abraham & Elizabeth Barraclough, of Wibsey, Manufacturer >baptised 14 January 1816 > >Is this too many changes of occupation for one Abraham ? > >Do you know if Abraham died 1815 left a will ? > >Pete > >Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: > > > >>Hi Pete, >> >>The reason my notes get a bit vague later on is that I aren't researching >>Barraclough after about 1800. My own connections occur before then. I will >>have got the references to the children from the two brothers' Wills, >>especially John's which was made in 1836/37. >>Abraham's brothers, Frank b. 1759 and John b. 1756 were the children of >>Francis and Hannah Tordoff. Betty Oats married Abraham Barraclough b.1761 >> >> >at > > >>Bradford Parish Church on 17 April 1786 and was a spinster. What happened >>after that I couldn't really say. >>I prefer the second wife theory, there were a lot of Betty's around and it >>was not uncommon for men to remarry. >> >>Jeff. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >>Sent: 28 March 2004 20:54 >>To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! >> >>Hi Jeff >>Now I am getting a bit confused. Fairly normal for me. >> >>I do have copies of the wills of the brothers Frank & John. >>But have those two gents as the sons of Betty ODDY. >>It occurs to me that your Betty OATS and my Betty ODDY just might be the >>same persons. >>Just a little error in the nameOats / Oddy would cover this. And such a >>transcription error would be easy. >> >>Also I have the Bap of this Abraham as >>Parish Register entry reads: : Abram. son of Francis Barraclough >>baptised 5th July 1761 >>Compares with your date of 11th July. >>Could this be another error ? Or dates of Birth then Baptism ? >> >>My problem now is that I don't know the source of the Betty ODDY name. >>I think I took it from the Barraclough List some long time ago. >>And I have not much information about her. Only the 1851 census when she >>was living with her daughter Hannah SMITH & fam >> >>1851 Census piece2304 ed2 folio33 sched24 >>Dwelling: Slack Side Census Place : North Bierley, Yorkshire, England >>George Smith Head Mar M 48 Ag Lab Yorks., ? >>Hannah Smith Wife Mar F 43 Yorks., North Bierley >>George Smith Son Un M 24 Engin Tender Yorks., North Bierley >>John Smith Son Un M 15 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >>Martha Smith Daughter F 13 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >>Frederick Smith Son M 12 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >>Betty Barraclough Mother Wid F 66 Pauper Yorks., North >>Bierley >> >>Who were the six children born after b1800 ? >>May I please have details of the marriage 17 Apr 1786. >> >>The real problem seems to be that the Betty, mother of Hannah SMITH was >>age 66 on 1851 census so born about 1784 so would have been only age 2 >>at time of the marriage in 1786. So presumably marriied an Abraham a >>generation up. There were enough of them to go round. >> >>Puzzled Pete >> >> >> >>Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>I have Abraham Barraclough, son of Francis and Hannah baptised 11 July >>> >>> >>> >>> >>1761, >> >> >> >> >>>marrying Betty Oats on 17 April 1786. After that my notes are a bit vague. >>>They had six children born after 1800 who were alive in 1836 and there are >>>references to the family in the Wills of Abraham's brothers Frank and >>> >>> >John. > > >>>Perhaps Betty Oddy was Abraham's second wife, that would explain a lot. >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >>>Sent: 27 March 2004 14:30 >>>To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! >>> >>>Hello de b >>> >>>I have this noted as >>>Parish Register entry reads: >>>Abram. son of Francis Barraclough baptised 5th July 1761 >>> >>>Is there a problem with this ??? >>> >>>Pete >>> >>>de barraclough wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Greetings Kim,Linda and every other Barraclough Lister. >>>>please,Please,PLEASE can't anyone tell which >>>>Abraham B.it was that married Betty Oddy ? >>>>They were the parents of Hannah B.,bap.in 1807,who later marr.George >>>> >>>> >Smith > > >>>>in 1823. >>>>Surely Abraham must be lurking somewhere in Kim's vast Barraclough >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>Database >> >> >> >> >>>>??? >>>>Cheers------Desperate Derek 1. >>>> >>>> >>>>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>>>Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? >>>>Check out "Biographies" at >>>>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>______________________________ >>> >>> >>>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>>The Home Page for this List is at: >>>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>______________________________ >> >> >>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? >>Check out "Biographies" at >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > > >

[Oh No !!! It's HIM again !!!] Greetings Barraclough Listers, Please can anyone give me ANY info.of any sort about John William Barraclough,and his wife Emma [nee Wright],and their family. In 1872 they were living at 49,Elgin Street, Hunslet,Leeds. Cheers---------Derek 1

Greetings Barraclough Listers [Again !] I have a death cert.that was bought in error. It's for a Susannah Barraclough,d.7th.Feb.1855 in Idle Workhouse,aged 56,widow of Joseph B.a hand-loom weaver of North Bierley. [I'll spare you the details of her death in case you are eating as you read this !!!!] If the lady was 'of your family',and you would like to have the cert.just let me know & it's all yours. Cheers----------Derek 1

Greetings Barraclough Listers. Several years ago I obtained a photo-copy of a will in the hope that the deceased was 'of my family'.He wasn't !!! It was for a Joseph Barraclough of Great Horton,residing at 256,Gt.Horton Rd. He died 20th.June 1876 ; the will is dated 14th.June 1876,and was proved 11th.July 1876. The only person mentioned in the will is his widow Sally. If anyone recognises Joseph/Sally as being of their family,let me know and I'll send it to you. Cheers---------Derek 1

I don’t suppose anyone has come across the family of Thomas Barraclough who lived in Warmfield? He had five children between 1672 (Ann) and 1682 (John) and was buried in 1719. I came across this family by accident. I have put the details onto my database PDF (Acrobat) file. To find them visit the web site, click on the database and search for Warmfield. There’s two marriages, two burials and five baptisms. I would be interested to know where Thomas came from. It might have been Warmfield. I didn’t search any farther back than 1669, but as there were no burials from any earlier generations, I don’t think so. By the way, Warmfield Parish is about 1 mile to the South of Wakefield and includes the village of Heath. Jeff Sutcliffe http://www.btinternet.com/~jeff.sutcliffe Researching Ambler, Baker, Barraclough, Bates, Booth, Broadbent, Brook, Brown, Chadwick, Collins, Coning, Crowther, Fearnley, Hanson, Hardcastle, Hartas, Harwood, Holmes, Metcalf, Nowell, Oliver, Pennington, Pollard, Radcliffe, Roebuck, Routh, Smith, Sugden, Sutcliffe, Tordoff, Ventress, Walker, Whitaker, Whiteley, Wilkinson, Wilson All of the Yorkshire Area.

Hi Pete, I have Jonas born about 1690 the son of Jonas and Margaret Copley who married in 1680 at Bradford Parish Church. Their other children were baptised at Wibsey Chapel and Bradford Parish Church, two at each. I'm not aware of the Coley baptism but my guess is that the baptism would have been at Wibsey Chapel, but that the record has not survived. All this information is on the Barraclough database on my website. Jeff Sutcliffe http://www.btinternet.com/~jeff.sutcliffe Researching Ambler, Baker, Barraclough, Bates, Booth, Broadbent, Brook, Brown, Chadwick, Collins, Coning, Crowther, Fearnley, Hanson, Hardcastle, Hartas, Harwood, Holmes, Metcalf, Nowell, Oliver, Pennington, Pollard, Radcliffe, Roebuck, Routh, Smith, Sugden, Sutcliffe, Tordoff, Ventress, Walker, Whitaker, Whiteley, Wilkinson, Wilson All of the Yorkshire Area. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2004 21:35 To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARRACLOUGH] Re: DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! Hi Derek de B According to me, and what I have put together from the Barraclough list, but which I have tried to verify from other sources (Not always successful) The parenst of the Francis Barraclough that married Hannah Tordoff were : Jonas Barraclough Bap at Coley Chapel 2 Dec 1688 ( But this not verified) He had two wives (one at a time) 1) Elizabeth PEEL marriad at Bradford 17 Dec 1712 Children Abrah. son of Jonas Barraclough baptised 6th January 1714 [ Married Hannah Pullen] Joshua Abt 1717 Ann 1719 2) Alice Longley Md 13 May 1720 at Bradford Children Thomas son of Jonas Baraclough baptised 25th December 1723 Francis son of Jonas Barraclough, Labourer baptised 25th Dec 1725 Jonas Barraclough - No info. So any addition / correction from anyone would be welcome. Pete de barraclough wrote: >Hi Peter, >Thanks for going to all that trouble to put that will on list ; I think I >already have a copy of that one somewhere. >My head's spinning with all the info.from you and Jeff,how/if it will ever >be resolved I can't imagine. >Do you know which Jonas was the father of that Francis who marr.Hannah >Tordoff ??? >Cheers------Derek 1 [now bewildered as well as >desperate] > > > >

Hi Derek de B According to me, and what I have put together from the Barraclough list, but which I have tried to verify from other sources (Not always successful) The parenst of the Francis Barraclough that married Hannah Tordoff were : Jonas Barraclough Bap at Coley Chapel 2 Dec 1688 ( But this not verified) He had two wives (one at a time) 1) Elizabeth PEEL marriad at Bradford 17 Dec 1712 Children Abrah. son of Jonas Barraclough baptised 6th January 1714 [ Married Hannah Pullen] Joshua Abt 1717 Ann 1719 2) Alice Longley Md 13 May 1720 at Bradford Children Thomas son of Jonas Baraclough baptised 25th December 1723 Francis son of Jonas Barraclough, Labourer baptised 25th Dec 1725 Jonas Barraclough - No info. So any addition / correction from anyone would be welcome. Pete de barraclough wrote: >Hi Peter, >Thanks for going to all that trouble to put that will on list ; I think I >already have a copy of that one somewhere. >My head's spinning with all the info.from you and Jeff,how/if it will ever >be resolved I can't imagine. >Do you know which Jonas was the father of that Francis who marr.Hannah >Tordoff ??? >Cheers------Derek 1 [now bewildered as well as >desperate] > > > >

Hello Jeff Thanks for the mail. You can't be any more vague than I am at present ! I have copies of the wills of Frank & John B. Brothers of young Abraham (1761 - 1815) The second marriage theory would certainly run. If so there should be a burial of Betty Barraclough ( Oates ) That marriage in 1761 would be possible . Abraham would have been age 25. A good mariagable age. But no children ??. The first of the next marriage bap 1803. Seems to be too long a gap. More work needed. Looking at the dates I have Abraham died and buried 17 May 1815 age 54 - at Holy Trinity, Wibsey. Possibly there is a generation (Anothe Abraham ?) missed out. I have the birth of his last child, another Abraham, as bap at Wibsey 24 Jan 1816 BUT noted as "Abraham son of Abraham & Elizabeth Barraclough, of Wibsey, Manufacturer baptised 14 January 1816" This suggests he has been attached to the wrong family. As his previous children are all shown as of Francis son of Abraham Barraclough ofWibsey Stuff Maker,baptised 28 Jul 1803 Martha daughter of Abraham Barraclough,of Rawnook, Labourer baptised 21st October 1804 Hannah daughter of Abraham Barraclough, of Bank, Weaver baptised 11th January 1807 Mary daughter of Abraham& Betty Barraclough of Wibsey, Labourer, baptised 1st January 1814 Joseph son of Abraham & Betty Barraclough, of Wibsey Labourer, baptised 1 Jan 1814 Abraham son of Abraham & Elizabeth Barraclough, of Wibsey, Manufacturer baptised 14 January 1816 Is this too many changes of occupation for one Abraham ? Do you know if Abraham died 1815 left a will ? Pete Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: >Hi Pete, > >The reason my notes get a bit vague later on is that I aren't researching >Barraclough after about 1800. My own connections occur before then. I will >have got the references to the children from the two brothers' Wills, >especially John's which was made in 1836/37. >Abraham's brothers, Frank b. 1759 and John b. 1756 were the children of >Francis and Hannah Tordoff. Betty Oats married Abraham Barraclough b.1761 at >Bradford Parish Church on 17 April 1786 and was a spinster. What happened >after that I couldn't really say. >I prefer the second wife theory, there were a lot of Betty's around and it >was not uncommon for men to remarry. > >Jeff. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >Sent: 28 March 2004 20:54 >To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! > >Hi Jeff >Now I am getting a bit confused. Fairly normal for me. > >I do have copies of the wills of the brothers Frank & John. >But have those two gents as the sons of Betty ODDY. >It occurs to me that your Betty OATS and my Betty ODDY just might be the >same persons. >Just a little error in the nameOats / Oddy would cover this. And such a >transcription error would be easy. > >Also I have the Bap of this Abraham as >Parish Register entry reads: : Abram. son of Francis Barraclough >baptised 5th July 1761 >Compares with your date of 11th July. >Could this be another error ? Or dates of Birth then Baptism ? > >My problem now is that I don't know the source of the Betty ODDY name. >I think I took it from the Barraclough List some long time ago. >And I have not much information about her. Only the 1851 census when she >was living with her daughter Hannah SMITH & fam > >1851 Census piece2304 ed2 folio33 sched24 >Dwelling: Slack Side Census Place : North Bierley, Yorkshire, England >George Smith Head Mar M 48 Ag Lab Yorks., ? >Hannah Smith Wife Mar F 43 Yorks., North Bierley >George Smith Son Un M 24 Engin Tender Yorks., North Bierley >John Smith Son Un M 15 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >Martha Smith Daughter F 13 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >Frederick Smith Son M 12 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley >Betty Barraclough Mother Wid F 66 Pauper Yorks., North >Bierley > >Who were the six children born after b1800 ? >May I please have details of the marriage 17 Apr 1786. > >The real problem seems to be that the Betty, mother of Hannah SMITH was >age 66 on 1851 census so born about 1784 so would have been only age 2 >at time of the marriage in 1786. So presumably marriied an Abraham a >generation up. There were enough of them to go round. > >Puzzled Pete > > > >Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: > > > >>I have Abraham Barraclough, son of Francis and Hannah baptised 11 July >> >> >1761, > > >>marrying Betty Oats on 17 April 1786. After that my notes are a bit vague. >>They had six children born after 1800 who were alive in 1836 and there are >>references to the family in the Wills of Abraham's brothers Frank and John. >>Perhaps Betty Oddy was Abraham's second wife, that would explain a lot. >> >>Jeff >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >>Sent: 27 March 2004 14:30 >>To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! >> >>Hello de b >> >>I have this noted as >>Parish Register entry reads: >>Abram. son of Francis Barraclough baptised 5th July 1761 >> >>Is there a problem with this ??? >> >>Pete >> >>de barraclough wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Greetings Kim,Linda and every other Barraclough Lister. >>>please,Please,PLEASE can't anyone tell which >>>Abraham B.it was that married Betty Oddy ? >>>They were the parents of Hannah B.,bap.in 1807,who later marr.George Smith >>>in 1823. >>>Surely Abraham must be lurking somewhere in Kim's vast Barraclough >>> >>> >Database > > >>>??? >>>Cheers------Desperate Derek 1. >>> >>> >>>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>>Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? >>>Check out "Biographies" at >>>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>______________________________ >> >> >>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>The Home Page for this List is at: >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > >==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? >Check out "Biographies" at >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html > > > >

Hi Pete, The reason my notes get a bit vague later on is that I aren't researching Barraclough after about 1800. My own connections occur before then. I will have got the references to the children from the two brothers' Wills, especially John's which was made in 1836/37. Abraham's brothers, Frank b. 1759 and John b. 1756 were the children of Francis and Hannah Tordoff. Betty Oats married Abraham Barraclough b.1761 at Bradford Parish Church on 17 April 1786 and was a spinster. What happened after that I couldn't really say. I prefer the second wife theory, there were a lot of Betty's around and it was not uncommon for men to remarry. Jeff. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 28 March 2004 20:54 To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! Hi Jeff Now I am getting a bit confused. Fairly normal for me. I do have copies of the wills of the brothers Frank & John. But have those two gents as the sons of Betty ODDY. It occurs to me that your Betty OATS and my Betty ODDY just might be the same persons. Just a little error in the nameOats / Oddy would cover this. And such a transcription error would be easy. Also I have the Bap of this Abraham as Parish Register entry reads: : Abram. son of Francis Barraclough baptised 5th July 1761 Compares with your date of 11th July. Could this be another error ? Or dates of Birth then Baptism ? My problem now is that I don't know the source of the Betty ODDY name. I think I took it from the Barraclough List some long time ago. And I have not much information about her. Only the 1851 census when she was living with her daughter Hannah SMITH & fam 1851 Census piece2304 ed2 folio33 sched24 Dwelling: Slack Side Census Place : North Bierley, Yorkshire, England George Smith Head Mar M 48 Ag Lab Yorks., ? Hannah Smith Wife Mar F 43 Yorks., North Bierley George Smith Son Un M 24 Engin Tender Yorks., North Bierley John Smith Son Un M 15 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley Martha Smith Daughter F 13 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley Frederick Smith Son M 12 Worster Spinner Yorks., North Bierley Betty Barraclough Mother Wid F 66 Pauper Yorks., North Bierley Who were the six children born after b1800 ? May I please have details of the marriage 17 Apr 1786. The real problem seems to be that the Betty, mother of Hannah SMITH was age 66 on 1851 census so born about 1784 so would have been only age 2 at time of the marriage in 1786. So presumably marriied an Abraham a generation up. There were enough of them to go round. Puzzled Pete Jeff Sutcliffe wrote: >I have Abraham Barraclough, son of Francis and Hannah baptised 11 July 1761, >marrying Betty Oats on 17 April 1786. After that my notes are a bit vague. >They had six children born after 1800 who were alive in 1836 and there are >references to the family in the Wills of Abraham's brothers Frank and John. >Perhaps Betty Oddy was Abraham's second wife, that would explain a lot. > >Jeff > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Northing [mailto:petn@slayleigh63.freeserve.co.uk] >Sent: 27 March 2004 14:30 >To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! > >Hello de b > >I have this noted as >Parish Register entry reads: >Abram. son of Francis Barraclough baptised 5th July 1761 > >Is there a problem with this ??? > >Pete > >de barraclough wrote: > > > >>Greetings Kim,Linda and every other Barraclough Lister. >>please,Please,PLEASE can't anyone tell which >>Abraham B.it was that married Betty Oddy ? >>They were the parents of Hannah B.,bap.in 1807,who later marr.George Smith >>in 1823. >>Surely Abraham must be lurking somewhere in Kim's vast Barraclough Database >>??? >>Cheers------Desperate Derek 1. >> >> >>==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >>Would you like to record a Barraclough Biography? >>Check out "Biographies" at >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > >==== BARRACLOUGH Mailing List ==== >The Home Page for this List is at: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/barraclough/index.html > > > > ______________________________

Hi Derek, You're straying back to the time when there are very few surviving records. If you want a best guess, what about Jonas, the son of Jonas and Margaret, who married Elizabeth Peel on 12 November 1712? Jeff. -----Original Message----- From: de barraclough [mailto:debarraclough1@activemail.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2004 00:23 To: BARRACLOUGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARRACLOUGH] DESPERATELY SEEKING ABRAHAM !!!! Hi Peter, Thanks for going to all that trouble to put that will on list ; I think I already have a copy of that one somewhere. My head's spinning with all the info.from you and Jeff,how/if it will ever be resolved I can't imagine. Do you know which Jonas was the father of that Francis who marr.Hannah Tordoff ??? Cheers------Derek 1 [now bewildered as well as desperate]