Mike: I have received your information and pages. I believe there is a connection back to PA but not sure how. I am starting to concentrate on going back to Londonderry, Ireland to find marriages in Presbyterian Church records or ship passenger lists. I still believe this connects to the families mentioned in my email back to Rick. The Irvin/Irwin 1729 date is a start. I really feel that we have a number of brothers, and cousins that need to be connected through information back in Ireland. I have added a few other people to the Barr Family group. Greg Barr, Rick Barr, David and Jan Foley. I am thinking about contacting a group of Barr's from a Cary Barr Trust mailing list. They are all related to Moses Shepherd Barr and his two wives Melissa Ann Marquess and Sarah Shoemake. I have a letter from one of the older relatives from the 1980's and she pretty much outlined this whole group. Someone may have new information if we get them active in our pursuit. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: William Barr information of Cumberland Co., PA Bill this Nancy Barr who md Donnell man is suppose to be the aunt of Henry Barr son of John Barr. Nancy is suppose to been dau of James Barr the judge of Westmoreland co Pa. Sending two pages from Donnell book. The attachment is page 1 Mike