The information I found on the Barr's was on the internet called the "Barr Tracks" -- it takes them back to a William Barr who was born 1716 in Scotland. Then it appears they came to USA -- his wife was Esther Fowler. Is this any help? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > Hi Cathy, My grandmother was a Barr of Glasgow Scotland any > connection?.......Jean > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > > > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > > > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > > > > > > >==== BARR Mailing List ==== > >Fred W. Reese [email protected] > >List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > > Researching..McGhie, McGhee, Fulton,Small,Litterick Carnochan,Lyburn, Loch, > Galloway, > In..Isle of Whithorn, Glasserton, Mochrum, Kirkcolm, Leswalt, > Sorbie,Kirkineer Glasgow. > Low, Barr. > In Dundee Glasgow > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > >

Dear Ruth, Please send me your own email so that I won't send the address to a lot of people! I will be happy to share. Blessings, Kathy (searching for those lost Barr's) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Tysor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > Yes Cathy: My Barr's were in Ohio and Indiana but seem to be hiding. I > would like to have that address. Ruth Tysor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy & Ted Schmitz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > > > > Dear Karen, > > I am a Barr relative, but not your line. I know a good researcher in Ohio > > that has many Barr lines. Do you want her email? > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > >

Yes Cathy: My Barr's were in Ohio and Indiana but seem to be hiding. I would like to have that address. Ruth Tysor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy & Ted Schmitz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > Dear Karen, > I am a Barr relative, but not your line. I know a good researcher in Ohio > that has many Barr lines. Do you want her email? > Kathy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Wilson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:14 AM > Subject: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > > > > I am looking for information on Silas Matthew Barr, born abt 1814 in > Tennessee -- he moved to Kentucky and then to Missouri (Laclede Co., MO) He > married Rebecca Farmer. > > > > I would like any information on his parents as far back as possible. > Also, if you know of anything on Rebecca. > > > > Thank you so much > > > > Karen > > > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > > > > > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor

Dear Karen, I am a Barr relative, but not your line. I know a good researcher in Ohio that has many Barr lines. Do you want her email? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: [BARR] Re: Silas Matthew Barr > I am looking for information on Silas Matthew Barr, born abt 1814 in Tennessee -- he moved to Kentucky and then to Missouri (Laclede Co., MO) He married Rebecca Farmer. > > I would like any information on his parents as far back as possible. Also, if you know of anything on Rebecca. > > Thank you so much > > Karen > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > >

I am looking for information on Silas Matthew Barr, born abt 1814 in Tennessee -- he moved to Kentucky and then to Missouri (Laclede Co., MO) He married Rebecca Farmer. I would like any information on his parents as far back as possible. Also, if you know of anything on Rebecca. Thank you so much Karen

Hi As a 'returnee' I'm reposting my Barr brickwall: Agnes BARR married David LANG - no details known, but his parents were Robert Lang and Jeannie Anderson from Kilbarchan, Renfrew both b 1838, m 1864. Children of Agnes BARR and David LANG: Jeannie Anderson LANG Robert LANG Mary Cuthbertson LANG; m. Robert CRAUFORD, David Wardlaw LANG, Susa LANG, b. 1900, Scotland, UK; d. 1986, Strathaven, Strathclyde, Scotland, UK. In 1921 married Andrew Semple (1897-1960). Susan (my wife's grandmother) is known to be the youngest, but no details of birth order for the rest! I have details of some descendants of this line, and am willing to share this. I know it's very vague but need help to go back on her line - any help gratefully received. Saludos Ian Harding (aka Mexican Ian) Hook, Hampshire, UK

---------------------------------------------------- This mailbox protected from junk email by Matador from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:34 PM To: Dennis McWilliams Subject: Virginia Legislation I wanted to share this with you. Read all and go to the link. It has already passed and hopefully it goes back to the Committee. ----- Original Message ----- From: Celtic Lady <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: [VALEE] Fw: SB 818 - Pending Legislation > Jim, perhaps the emails below answer your questions about the pending legislation. As you can see, the die is cast on this -- it is already law and Debra has been burning the candle at both ends trying to get it back into committee for amendment. Unfortunately by the time I got on the bandwagon was just too late for me to act, particularly since I'm in Europe. Debra said I could share her letter with anyone, and though there is a personal bit about our ancestry, overall the information below will be helpful to anyone interest in the records of our ancestry and our nation's history being perserved. Hope this is what you were seeking. Linda Lee/Heidelberg Germany > > Jim Lawson said: > > Within the last week or so somebody posted a URL for pending > legislation (nationwide) that would affect genealogists and family historians. Unfortunately (1) I don't remember which list I saw it on and (2) I deleted the message and then emptied the Deleted File and (3) said "@#$$#%$ OOPS.' > > If somebody remembers or knows the URL I'm referring to, I'd > appreciate it you would contact me. > > Thanks, Jim > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debra Rookard > To: Celtic Lady > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: SB 818 > > > Thank you for the kind words. > > Here is the link for the entire Bill > > http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+ful+SB818 > > You may send my letter where ever YOU may wish, but I'm beat. I was > the one who started this Friday night and I am bushed! I have not left my computer since Saturday morning at 6AM, except to sleep and go back to work this mo. I have answered hundreds of emails, questions on all the Lists, sent hundreds of links, etc. > > Believe me, anybody that has any small connection to genealogy in the State of Virginia now knows about this or has been under a rock! I have talked to people from just about every state in the Union. It is probably posted on almost 1/2 of the geneo Lists in the country already. Word spread like wildfire. I heard the uproar all over the country this past weekend. > > The Committe reconvened this morning. I think the email sent this > weekend that overflowed their boxes this morning cannot be topped for effect. I am not saying for people to stop writing, but we are officially out of time. Our best hope from the Committee, is for them to table it until next session. > > Yes, my roots are deeply entrenched in WCV and RCV. My mother's Capt. William B. Blackwell b: 1773 Botetourt Parish, Fincastle County; to become WCV in 1776. My family is still there in Meadowview, or more precisely Blackwells Chapel. My cousin lives in our ancestral home. I live in Atlanta, but am from MD. > > Debra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Celtic Lady > To: Debra Rookard > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: SB 818 > > > Great letter, Debra! Just looking at Norbert's letter: What he says > is that SB 818 DID NOT authorize the Clerk to destroy the original will -- the law passed for that was passed by the GS in 2002 -- according to him, SB 818 is ONLY to authorized the Clerk to destroy the Rest of the file!! > > Now, the Section D and E that you cite below, are those from SB 818 > or the original law? If you look at those statements, a clerk cannot destroy ANY record -- as you so clearly pointed out, any historical document (historical being two minutes ago) has administrative and historical value for genealogists and insitutions interested in family history documentation -- note that there is some consideration for property disposition and settlements. This law is indeed fundamentally flawed -- how can such permanant, irrevocable determinations rest with a person does not have the knowledge, skill or training to recognize historical, genealogical, or sensational significance (what sensational significance mean? if you've ever been in a courthouse when somebody found a will of their 6-great-grandfather naming the wife and all the children, you'd know what sensational significance means!! but I'll bet Ol' Norment hasn't a clue) of a document nor are this person's interests and dec! > isions unbiased -- this person in many cases is interested in the > removal of documents from the storage area? As a note here, I do position evaluation for a living and determine how much money (the grade of the position) civilians in the Army make -- KNOWLEDGE AND SKILL are paramount indicators of the grade of the position, therefore the money the person makes -- I'd guess county clerks make a pitiful salary, thus pitifully inadequate knowledge and training to make these determinations. > > Has this been placed on the DAR, SAR, etc. web sites for all their > folks to know about? I think we should amend your letter just a bit and send it to every County genweb site we can find -- ask people to respond to the same group of people that you e-mailed to -- Virginia's records, and particularly will documents and estate settlements, are so key to genealogical research, to membership the the Societies you mentioned as well as numerous others. What do you think about doing that? > > Yo!! I just read to the very end of your e-mail -- you are out of Washington County VA? Stomping grounds of my direct ancestors, Neill line -- James Neill born 1792, Russell Co VA (previous Washington Co)! I knew I liked you for some reason!! > > If you agree that we/I can use your letter as a basis to send > something to our County contacts (not just in VA, but all across the US) I'd like to hear an uproar from across the country such that no State would ever think of such a horrendous act! I'll even try to find some European web sites for genealogy researchers (hopefully in English) and send to them. > > Thanks. Linda > > From: Senator Tommy Norment > To: xxxxx xxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: SB 818 > > Thank you for your email regarding SB818. I was asked to carry this legislation on behalf of the Virginia Circuit Court Clerks Association. The reason for the bill is due to the incredible number of "unclaimed" documents that accumulate in the Clerk's office over many years. SB818 did not authorize the Clerk to destroy the original will. That legislation was passed by the General Assembly in 2002 and is currently the law in Virginia. This legislation only authorized the Clerk to destroy the other papers in the file after five years. > > Senator Tommy Norment > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debra Rookard > To: Celtic Lady > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:07 AM > Subject: Fw: SB 818 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debra Rookard > To: [email protected] ; > [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:48 PM > Subject: SB 818 > > > 9 February 2003 > > Dear Sir; > > While the intent of my letter is not to protest SB 818 for its > reason of presentment to your Committee, I would ask that your Committee completely revisit the definitions of "the powers of the Clerk", being that this is the current Law of Virginia and is foundationally flawed. > > For reference purposes, I have included a copy of the form letter Senator Norment has been copying to respondants this past weekend: > > From: Senator Tommy Norment > To: xxxxx xxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: SB 818 > > Thank you for your email regarding SB818. I was asked to carry > this legislation on behalf of the Virginia Circuit Court Clerks Association. The reason for the bill is due to the incredible number of "unclaimed" documents that accumulate in the Clerk's office over many years. SB818 did not authorize the Clerk to destroy the original will. That legislation was passed by the General Assembly in 2002 and is currently the law in Virginia. This legislation only authorized the Clerk to destroy the other papers in the file after five years. > > Senator Tommy Norment > > > While Senator Norment incorrectly states that "SB 818 did not authorize the Clerk to destroy the original will", it does precisely that, along with other unfortunate and poor choices in wording : > > > Section D: Under the provisions of subsections B and C, the entire file of any case deemed by the local clerk of court to have historical value, as defined in § 42.1-77, or genealogical or sensational significance shall be retained permanently as shall all cases in which the title to real estate is established, conveyed or condemned by an order or decree of the court. The final order for all cases in which the title to real estate is so affected shall include an appropriate notification thereof to the clerk. > > > My concern is that of the power extended to the local Cleck's > ability or willingness to determine "genealogic value", since any state court record containing a name and a date is of genealogic value. > > Of supreme concern to those of us in genealogic research is the destruction of said Wills. Without this vehicle, our research would stop. Our interest is not that of a person's holdings, but who the deceased has documented as family, who witnesses it, etc. This document is second to none as a "Class 1" source and our most important proof of relation. The DAR , SAR, and the Society of The Dames and Barons of the Magna Carta list this document as their first and highest primary source of proof of heritage. > > Again > Section E: ... (iv) original wills and will files, to be > destroyed if such records, papers, documents, or wills no longer have administrative, fiscal, historical, or legal value to warrant continued retention, provided such records, papers, or documents have been microfilmed. > > Herein lies the "destruction of the original document" problem. > Please note in the above that there is no mention nor provision made for those of genealogic value; which includes all Wills. While the electronic recording of these records is vital, the quality is not always optimal. Without the aid of the original to back it up, they are oftimes worthless, with half the page chopped off, blank, out of focus, etc. This occurs more often than not. > > In Summary > Devoid of any system of checks and balances mandated by State > law, SB 818 currently engenders one tired and overworked Clerk the power to destroy 90 years of valuable Virginia history, 1913 - 2003 and that of any and all future Wills. > > > THEREFORE: > > I propose that all wording in regards to the Clerk's choice or > power in the destruction of Wills be stricken entirely and in its' place, wording ammeded to the effect: > > At the end of a particular document's State 3, 5,10 year retention period, the Clerk shall: > > A: Notify in advance, not being less than 120 days: the local Historical Society and Library of record of said documents slated for destruction. These entities may at no cost to themselves in the way of State fees, etc., relieve the Commonwealth of Virginia of said records and collect all such records from the Clerk within a reasonable amount of time, (to be determined). > > B: In conjuction with and at the same time, the Clerk shall notify > and post the identity of all records set for destruction on the website of the Commonwealth of Virginia specifically created and maintained for such; to include a true copy of the previous notification to the Historical Society and Library of record, it's address and phone, email, etc. (This page on VA's website will also contain an "automatic notification email feature", allowing those previously registering, be duly notified of said document's intended destruction and remedy.) > > C: In the event these organizations cannot or will not accept > these records, the documents will be held for sale by the Clerk for a fee of _______ + S & H, for no less than 120 days after the term of the expiration of the Historical Society and Library's notification. The clerk shall maintain and post on this website a perpetual database of the final disposition of these documents. > > (Notice how I worked in a money generator for the state and saved Virginia all that money now spent on disposal?) Hmmm... > > > These documents ARE public records and as such, they > intrinsically and lawfully belong to us. I ask only that you reconfigure the wording of the Law to allow them to be returned or to be put up for adoption. Here they may remain in perpetuity for future generations researching YOU & I one hundred years from now, giving our descendants a place to find us. Be a hero to your great great grandchildren. History is recording you at this precise moment. > > I thank you Sir for your time and considerations. This dilemma of > Will destruction facing the Commonwealth of Virginia is being monitored nationwide and abroad in Europe via our online genealogical Lists. I trust you to do all in your power to protect and permanently allow the invoilate perpetuation of the glorious history of our nation's founding state, especially in consideration of the extreme importance of this matter. > > > I Remain Yours Truly, > > Debra Rookard > 11th Grandaughter of Col. Edward Digges, 2nd Colonial Governor of Virginia and Founder of the College of William & Mary > > GenExchange County Coordinator, City of Williamsburg > http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?State=va&County=williamsburg > > Member of the Historical Society of Washington County, Virginia > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Here is a copy of Donalyn's message to the VA Legislature, posted to the Frederick VA List (with her permission). Dona *********************************** Message Board Post: To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Re: SB818 Destruction of VA Wills Dear Sirs and Madam: I come from a long line of Virginians--in fact ALL of my maternal ancestors were from Virginia--and I'm distressed by the possible passage of SB818 in its current form. My concerns are for the destruction of original wills are threefold: 1) This bill is being presented and passed too fast for constituents and families of the Virginians with archived wills to voice their opinions in this most important question of Virginia and our families' historical preservation of records. Furthermore, no time is given for the retrieval of already archived wills. 2) The destruction of records that could be successfully retained by State and County Libraries and Historical Societies. No time has been given for these public sources' voices to be heard. Furthermore, there is no clause to allow these public sources to save our original Virginia archives and I hope one will be included. 3) The destruction of records replicated on microfilm that does not have longevity may cause permanent loss of records. There is no clause that specifies the manner in which archives are to be preserved; the best manner being digital photos and silver halide film. This, in itself, could result in the permanent loss of Virginia heritage. Clearly, there has already been much tragic loss of our history. >From http://www.archives.state.ut.us/preserv/guide/microfor.htm#longevity "Documents with permanent retention periods must be reformatted on the most stable medium possible if they are to be used into the indefinite future. Silver halide film can last more than 500 years if it is manufactured, processed, and stored properly. When choosing a microfilm system, it is important to decide ahead of time if the film must be of archival quality." I look forward to hearing more about possible remedies in SB818 for these concerns. Very truly yours, Donna Lynn Snelling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dona Snyder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: [BARR] Important VA Legistlation > ***The following was posted on the Frederick Co. VA mailing list and I thought it should be seen by as many people as possible. My BARR line came from VA. We need to let these people know that, even though the information is saved, the actual documents are important to us!!! > > Dona Snyder > **************************************** > > > > IMPORTANT IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION AFFECTING VIRGINIA GENEALOGISTS!! > > STATUS: PASSED SENATE 40-0. NOW AT HOUSE OF DELEGATE SUBCOMMITTEE TO > MEET ON IT MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2003. > > "VIRGINIA SENATE BILL 818-E2-80-94-DESTRUCTION OF WILL FILES. > > http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=031&typ=bil&val=sb818&Submit =Go > > > January 31, 2003 Virginia Senate Bill 818 Destruction of will files. > Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will > after it is no longer of any value and after it has been microfilmed. > > The description of the Bill reads as follows: > > "Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file > along with the original will after 5 years have passed since probate or recordation and allows destruction of originals of instruments which have been recorded and remained unretrieved by the recording party after 6 months, if the documents are no longer of any value and have been microfilmed." > > > House of Delegates Subcommittee Member Information: > > Chairman Terry G. Kilgore of the House Subcommittee on/for Civil Law of the House Committee on/for Courts of Justice advises you that a meeting of the Subcommittee will be held on 02/10/2003 at Committee will meet immediately after adjournment of the Full Committee. in 7th. floor West Conf. Room in GAB. . > > Patron Name Bill(s) to be considered at this meeting > > Thomas Norment SB818 > > Civil Law Subcommittee Members to email (must be done immediately): > > Chairman: Kilgore, Terry G. [email protected] > Members: Almand, James F. [email protected] > Athey, Clifford L., Jr. [email protected] > Black, Richard H. [email protected] > Janis, William R. [email protected] > Joannou, Johnny S. no email > Johnson, Joseph P., Jr. [email protected] > Marrs, Bradley P. [email protected] > McQuigg, Michèle B. [email protected] > Reese, Gary A. [email protected] > Robert F. McDonnell - (Ex-Officio) [email protected] > > For all House of Delegate email addresses to email or call, see > > http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/MWebsiteEL?OpenView and > http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/MWebsiteTL?OpenView > > To call to protest this bill in the general delivery voicemail box: > > By Phone > When the General Assembly is in session, the House of Delegates and Senate of Virginia jointly operate a toll-free, intrastate telephone message center to accept calls from citizens of the Commonwealth wishing to express an opinion on legislation. The messages are received by the > center and will be relayed to the members' offices as requested. You may call the Constituent Viewpoint operators at (800) 889-0229 (outside Richmond) or (804) 698-1990 (Richmond area) to express your opinion on a legislative issue. > > Donalyn > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor >

***The following was posted on the Frederick Co. VA mailing list and I thought it should be seen by as many people as possible. My BARR line came from VA. We need to let these people know that, even though the information is saved, the actual documents are important to us!!! Dona Snyder **************************************** IMPORTANT IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION AFFECTING VIRGINIA GENEALOGISTS!! STATUS: PASSED SENATE 40-0. NOW AT HOUSE OF DELEGATE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET ON IT MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2003. "VIRGINIA SENATE BILL 818-E2-80-94-DESTRUCTION OF WILL FILES. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=031&typ=bil&val=sb818&Submit=Go January 31, 2003 Virginia Senate Bill 818 Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will after it is no longer of any value and after it has been microfilmed. The description of the Bill reads as follows: "Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will after 5 years have passed since probate or recordation and allows destruction of originals of instruments which have been recorded and remained unretrieved by the recording party after 6 months, if the documents are no longer of any value and have been microfilmed." House of Delegates Subcommittee Member Information: Chairman Terry G. Kilgore of the House Subcommittee on/for Civil Law of the House Committee on/for Courts of Justice advises you that a meeting of the Subcommittee will be held on 02/10/2003 at Committee will meet immediately after adjournment of the Full Committee. in 7th. floor West Conf. Room in GAB. . Patron Name Bill(s) to be considered at this meeting Thomas Norment SB818 Civil Law Subcommittee Members to email (must be done immediately): Chairman: Kilgore, Terry G. [email protected] Members: Almand, James F. [email protected] Athey, Clifford L., Jr. [email protected] Black, Richard H. [email protected] Janis, William R. [email protected] Joannou, Johnny S. no email Johnson, Joseph P., Jr. [email protected] Marrs, Bradley P. [email protected] McQuigg, Michèle B. [email protected] Reese, Gary A. [email protected] Robert F. McDonnell - (Ex-Officio) [email protected] For all House of Delegate email addresses to email or call, see http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/MWebsiteEL?OpenView and http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/MWebsiteTL?OpenView To call to protest this bill in the general delivery voicemail box: By Phone When the General Assembly is in session, the House of Delegates and Senate of Virginia jointly operate a toll-free, intrastate telephone message center to accept calls from citizens of the Commonwealth wishing to express an opinion on legislation. The messages are received by the center and will be relayed to the members' offices as requested. You may call the Constituent Viewpoint operators at (800) 889-0229 (outside Richmond) or (804) 698-1990 (Richmond area) to express your opinion on a legislative issue. Donalyn

June 29 1843 William Barr was born to a Wm. and Sarah Brown Barr. He was a grandson of Mary Wills and Gabriel Barr. He married Sarah Ann Hazett in 1865 and she died in 1866. He then remarried a Martha J. Cahill of Indiana in 1867. It is written that he died in 1872 in Michigan but I can't seem to find any record of that death or any cemetery records. Does anyone know where in Michigan he supposedly died? This info is written in a book on the BARR Family at the Fairfield Co., OH library but it doesn't say where, exactly when, or how he died, just that his wife Martha married a ? Deeter, and moved to Tennessee after his death in Michigan. Anything anyone can do to point me in the right direction will certainly be appreciated. Thanks.

A Wonderful email person-In Scotland- went to the Government Registry Office in Lanark for me where he found the babtismal registration for James BARR in 1720! Emailed me this information with the GRO #. James, wife Agnes and son David came to US with the "Nottingham Group, Colony or Company" about 1746-52. Anyone out there who has information about this family, settling in Guilford Co. NC. Please contact me. I have lots of information I would like to share. Phyllis Barr-Chezem Crothers, in OR

Hi Eliena, Could you please send me the details on you BARR family from Scotland? Joe Hay in VA, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliena K Sagasti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: [BARR] More Scottish Barrs > Hi Folks > > My Barrs are also Scottish, however they were from Kilwinning in Ayrshire. > Is there anyone else who has family from there. Two of my Barrs went to > America. > > Eliena > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > >

Hi Folks My Barrs are also Scottish, however they were from Kilwinning in Ayrshire. Is there anyone else who has family from there. Two of my Barrs went to America. Eliena

Looking for Delimar William Barr born in Rutherford county TN 1810. I would like to know who his parents are. Thank you, Tom --- Tom Barr <[email protected]> wrote: > My Barrs were established in Williamsburg > District, South Carolina, by the > turn of the century (ie., about 1700, the > eighteenth century!). Although > it has thus far been impossible to prove a > direct connection, the earliest > generations to have come from Scotland are > rumored to have been Chalmers > and/or William Barr (son?), who probably > settled around Indiantown, SC. > > Perhaps someone has a feasible link to your own > ancestry? I am at a > stonewall at present and cannot proceed much > farther without additional > evidence. My family's oldest documented link > (by a will) is to James Barr > (1740-1816); he was born, died, and owned > property near Indiantown. Could he > have been a son (or brother?) to William? > > Thomas C. Barr > Nashville, Tennessee > > > On 11/25/02 10:39 AM, "Eliena K Sagasti" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Folks > > > > My Barrs are also Scottish, however they were > from Kilwinning in Ayrshire. > > Is there anyone else who has family from > there. Two of my Barrs went to > > America. > > > > Eliena > > > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > > > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I would like to help but the only thing we know about our GGG grandfather is: Alexander Barr b. May 1772 and cameover in the late1790's or early 1800's form Antrim Co. Ireland. I don't know if they lived there of it was a jumping off place!! He married in Pa. in 1803to Mary McElhany. They had 8 children. Alexander died August 11,1825 in Jefferson Township, Preble County Ohio. Does this sound like any of your people? I can go back no farther!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliena K Sagasti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: [BARR] More Scottish Barrs > Hi Folks > > My Barrs are also Scottish, however they were from Kilwinning in Ayrshire. > Is there anyone else who has family from there. Two of my Barrs went to > America. > > Eliena > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor >

My Barrs were established in Williamsburg District, South Carolina, by the turn of the century (ie., about 1700, the eighteenth century!). Although it has thus far been impossible to prove a direct connection, the earliest generations to have come from Scotland are rumored to have been Chalmers and/or William Barr (son?), who probably settled around Indiantown, SC. Perhaps someone has a feasible link to your own ancestry? I am at a stonewall at present and cannot proceed much farther without additional evidence. My family's oldest documented link (by a will) is to James Barr (1740-1816); he was born, died, and owned property near Indiantown. Could he have been a son (or brother?) to William? Thomas C. Barr Nashville, Tennessee On 11/25/02 10:39 AM, "Eliena K Sagasti" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Folks > > My Barrs are also Scottish, however they were from Kilwinning in Ayrshire. > Is there anyone else who has family from there. Two of my Barrs went to > America. > > Eliena > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor >

Hello, Well, I do have 2 Marion's in my line ... Marion BARR born 24 Mar 1814 daur of William Barr born ca 1776 and Ann STEELE who were married 3 Feb 1801 at Lesmahgow. They had the following other children William 1802, Thomas 1803, William 1805, Mary 1810, Samuel ca 1812, James 1812, George 1816, James 1818. I am descended from Samuel. Samuel Barr born ca 1812 and died 11 Dec 1889 married 24 Jan 1836 Agnes Bunton born ca 1817 died 14 May1889. They too had a daur Marion Barr born 22 Apr 1837 at Lesmahgow. She was followed by Anne 1838, Barbara 1842, James 1844, Agnes 1846, Samuel 1848, Mary 1849, John 1852, Helen 1855, Janet 1857, Christina 1858 and Janet 1860. Either of them sound possible ? I have only just started on my Barr line - but all the above has been verified. I suspect by the breaks in births there may possibly be more children. I am happy to share whatever I have ... take care Fiona --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs

Dear Fiona, Do you know when or whom anyone of this line moved to the states? My grandmother's maiden name was Marion Barr, and many of the ither names appear in my line (William, James, John, Helen). Please email me if you have further info. Thanks Fiona Sendall [email protected] > Hi, I am new to this list and Scottish research, having concentrated on my > English lines. > I am looking for connections to William Barr [a joiner] born ca1776, he > married Ann STEELE 03.02.1801 and they had the following children :- William > 1802, Thomas 1803, William 1805, Mary 1810, Samuel 1812-1889, James 1812, > Marion 1814, George 1816, James 1818. > Their son Samuel, farmer of Bunn Blackwood Lesmahagow, married Agnes BUNTON ca > 1817-1889 the daur of James BUNTON and Agnes *GO*** on 24.01.1836. They had > the following children Marion 1837, Anne 1838, Barbara 1842, James 1844, Agnes > 1846, Samuel 1848, Mary 1849, John 1852, Helen 1855, Janet 1857, Christina > 1858, Janet 1860. > Their son John is my great-grandfather, he too was a farmer first at 'Dillar' > Lesmahagow and then at East Seaton in Angus. He married Elizabeth McGregor > 26.06.1882 and they had five known children all born at Dillar. Mary 1883, > Agnes 1885, Samuel ca 1887, Elizabeth 10.10.1887 and James 1889. > I would welcome connectiona and to share and learn > > > take care > > Fiona

Hi List Members, My dear "internet" cousin Jeannette just got back home from a holiday in Scotland and I'm posting some of the records she found for me. Hopefully I can find some more cousins out there in cyberspace. I also have a few records that I'll be posting to lists for Glasgow, Lanark,& Islay. Regards to All, Joe Hay in VA, USA Death, Johnstone 559/3 64 DOUGLAS BARR died 17.3.1873 aged 73 at Elderslie, Johnstone married to GEORGE BARR, mechanic in a cotton mill Parents: ADAM HAY, tailor (journeyman) (dec) and AGNES HAY, m.s. PINKERTON (dec) Cause of death: Old age and debility. No recent medical attention. Informant: GEORGE BARR, husband Marriage 1871 on 30/3/1871 at the Manse, Johnstone, after banns according to the rites of the Church of Scotland ANDREW FULTON, engine smith, bachelor, aged 21 of West Cross St., Paisley son of ANDREW FULTON, Baker, (dec) an JANE FULTON m.s. SHAW (dec) to DOUGLAS HAY, mill worker, spinster, aged 20 of Dimity St., Johnstone daughter of JAMES HAY, Gentleman's servant and JANE HAY m.s. CRAIG Witnesses: William Gilmar and William McDryfeld Marriage, 1861 Johnstone 559/3 10 4.4.1861 at Elderslie, According to Rites of Church of Scotland DUNCAN CURRIE, bachelor, aged 22, mill clerk, of Village of Linwood, Kilbarchan Parish Parents: DUNCAN CURRIE, cotton spinner (dec) and CATHERINE CURRIE, m.s. MARSHALL (dec) to DOUGLAS BARR, aged 19, Spinster, mill warehouse hand of Elderslie, Parents: GEORGE BARR, engineer and DOUGLAS BARR m.s. HAY Witnesses: GEORGE COCKBURN and MARION BOWIE Death 1885 22.5.1885 at 18 Rankin St., Johnstone JAMES HAY aged 1 1/2 years Parents: ALEXANDER HAY, cotton mill mechanic and EUPHEMIA MCTAGGART Cause of death: Infantile convulsions 24 hours, as certified by James Wilson M.D. Informant: Euphemia Hay, mother Birth 1881 8.10.1881 EUPHEMIA SINCLAIR HAY born at 20 Rankine St., Johnstone daughter of ALEXANDER HAY, engine fitter (journeyman) and EUPHEMIA SINCLAIR MCTAGGART, m. 1880 Johnstone Marriage 1900 Dreghorn 2.2.1900 Warwickhill Rows, after banns according forms of Congregational Church MATTHEW HAY, coachman, bachelor, 24 of 5 Quarry St., Johnstone son of MATTHEW HAY, glazier and MARGARET HOUSTON to MARY MCKINLAY ARBUCKLE, domestic servant, spinster, 19, of Warrickhill Rows, Dreghorn daughter of THOMAS ARBUCKLE, coal miner (dec) and AGNES GALT Witnesses: JAMES LOGGIE, SARAH ARBUCKLE Birth 1871 JANE SHAW FULTON 1.6.1871 at 14 Dimity St., Johnstone daughter of ANDREW FULTON and DOUGLAS HAY m. 30.3.1871 Informant: Father Death 1872 JANE SHAW FULTON 1.6.1872 at Dimity St., Johnstone aged 1 year Parents: ANDREW FULTON, engine turner, DOUGLAS FULTON m.s. HAY Cause of death:Hooping (sic) cough - 3 weeks Informant: JANE HAY, grandmother, present signed with x Birth 1879 ANDREW FULTON 29.1.1879 at 21 Niddry St., Paisley son of ANDREW FULTON, engine turner (journeyman) and DOUGLAS HAY Informant: Andrew Fulton, father Death Paisley 559/3 155 1873 ANDREW FULTON, aged 10 months Died 21st July 1873 at Dimity St., Johnstone Son of ANDREW FULTON, engine turner and DOUGLAS FULTON m.s. HAY Cause of death: Bronchitis 10 days certified by Andrew Henderson, M.D. Informant: JAMES HAY, grandfather, present That's all for now. Also searching: CRAIG, COCKBURN, MCTAGGART, SINCLAIR, GRANT, ROBERTSON, CLARK, PINKERTON, CUTHBERTSON, SHAW, RAMSAY, WILSON, FAULDS, & others.

For Joe Hay: Joe, my great grandmother was ANN HAY, m. JAMES HUTCHISON, Nov. 24, 1865, in Arbroath, Angus, Scotland. She was born (town?) in Scotland about 1840 to ANDREW HAY and ISABELLA WINTER, and died in Orillia, Ontario, Canada, about 1885. If this rings a bell for you, please let me know. Note that I have no HAYs at all on the BARR side, only this one reference on my mother's side. My BARR line suddenly appears about 1700 ± 20 in Williamsburg Distrct, near Indiantown, SC, and its Scottish origin and time of travel to South Carolina (probably via the port of Charleston) remain unknonw. Tom Barr Nashville, TN On 11/5/02 3:00 AM, "Scottish Roots" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi List Members, My dear "internet" cousin Jeannette just got back home from > a holiday in Scotland and I'm posting some of the records she found for me. > Hopefully I can find some more cousins out there in cyberspace. I also have > a few records that I'll be posting to lists for Glasgow, Lanark,& Islay. > > Regards to All, Joe Hay in VA, USA > > > Death, Johnstone 559/3 64 > DOUGLAS BARR > died 17.3.1873 aged 73 at Elderslie, Johnstone > married to GEORGE BARR, mechanic in a cotton mill > Parents: ADAM HAY, tailor (journeyman) (dec) > and AGNES HAY, m.s. PINKERTON (dec) > Cause of death: Old age and debility. No recent medical attention. > Informant: GEORGE BARR, husband > > Marriage 1871 > on 30/3/1871 at the Manse, Johnstone, after banns according to the rites of > the Church of Scotland > ANDREW FULTON, engine smith, bachelor, aged 21 of West Cross St., Paisley > son of ANDREW FULTON, Baker, (dec) an JANE FULTON m.s. SHAW (dec) > to > DOUGLAS HAY, mill worker, spinster, aged 20 of Dimity St., Johnstone > daughter of JAMES HAY, Gentleman's servant and JANE HAY m.s. CRAIG > Witnesses: William Gilmar and William McDryfeld > > Marriage, 1861 Johnstone 559/3 10 > 4.4.1861 > at Elderslie, According to Rites of Church of Scotland > DUNCAN CURRIE, bachelor, aged 22, mill clerk, of Village of Linwood, > Kilbarchan Parish > Parents: DUNCAN CURRIE, cotton spinner (dec) and CATHERINE CURRIE, m.s. > MARSHALL (dec) > to DOUGLAS BARR, aged 19, Spinster, mill warehouse hand of Elderslie, > Parents: GEORGE BARR, engineer and DOUGLAS BARR m.s. HAY > Witnesses: GEORGE COCKBURN and MARION BOWIE > Death 1885 > 22.5.1885 at 18 Rankin St., Johnstone > JAMES HAY aged 1 1/2 years > Parents: ALEXANDER HAY, cotton mill mechanic and EUPHEMIA MCTAGGART > Cause of death: Infantile convulsions 24 hours, as certified by James Wilson > M.D. > Informant: Euphemia Hay, mother > > Birth 1881 > 8.10.1881 EUPHEMIA SINCLAIR HAY > born at 20 Rankine St., Johnstone > daughter of ALEXANDER HAY, engine fitter (journeyman) and EUPHEMIA SINCLAIR > MCTAGGART, m. 1880 Johnstone > > > Marriage 1900 > Dreghorn > 2.2.1900 Warwickhill Rows, after banns according forms of Congregational > Church > MATTHEW HAY, coachman, bachelor, 24 of 5 Quarry St., Johnstone > son of MATTHEW HAY, glazier and MARGARET HOUSTON > to > MARY MCKINLAY ARBUCKLE, domestic servant, spinster, 19, of Warrickhill Rows, > Dreghorn > daughter of THOMAS ARBUCKLE, coal miner (dec) and AGNES GALT > > Witnesses: JAMES LOGGIE, SARAH ARBUCKLE > > Birth 1871 > JANE SHAW FULTON > 1.6.1871 at 14 Dimity St., Johnstone > daughter of ANDREW FULTON and DOUGLAS HAY > m. 30.3.1871 > Informant: Father > > Death 1872 > JANE SHAW FULTON > 1.6.1872 at Dimity St., Johnstone aged 1 year > Parents: ANDREW FULTON, engine turner, > DOUGLAS FULTON m.s. HAY > Cause of death:Hooping (sic) cough - 3 weeks > Informant: JANE HAY, grandmother, present signed with x > > > Birth 1879 > ANDREW FULTON > 29.1.1879 at 21 Niddry St., Paisley > son of ANDREW FULTON, engine turner (journeyman) and DOUGLAS HAY > Informant: Andrew Fulton, father > > Death Paisley 559/3 155 > 1873 > ANDREW FULTON, aged 10 months > Died 21st July 1873 at Dimity St., Johnstone > Son of ANDREW FULTON, engine turner and DOUGLAS FULTON m.s. HAY > Cause of death: Bronchitis 10 days > certified by Andrew Henderson, M.D. > Informant: JAMES HAY, grandfather, present > > That's all for now. > > Also searching: CRAIG, COCKBURN, MCTAGGART, SINCLAIR, GRANT, ROBERTSON, > CLARK, PINKERTON, CUTHBERTSON, SHAW, RAMSAY, WILSON, FAULDS, & others. > > > > ==== BARR Mailing List ==== > Fred W. Reese [email protected] > List owner and Rootsweb Donor >