HI Rob, I was wondering if you have a connection to the Thomas Jefferson Barnes family of Pulaski county Kentucky? He was married to Mary Ellen Ping. Lorene At 02:40 PM 8/21/2004 -0700, Rob Richardson wrote: >A Barnes cousin recently participated in the Barnes Family DNA project. We >had a perfect match with James Barnes' descendents That's the James of >Maryland who was Keturah's husband. > >But we have a gap. The two oldest ancestors that we've identified were a >William and a Frederick Barnes who we first find in Logan County/Warren >County, KY about 1790. Appearing later with these Barnes were a Charles, >James, and Buck Barnes. > >These two guys are definitely related to James of Maryland - or perhaps a >brother. Based upon census records the two were born in the 1760s. Do any >of the James/Ketura Barnes descendents have a Frederick and/or William who >left Maryland/PA for parts unknown in the 1790s? > >Rob Richardson >Austin, TX

A Barnes cousin recently participated in the Barnes Family DNA project. We had a perfect match with James Barnes' descendents That's the James of Maryland who was Keturah's husband. But we have a gap. The two oldest ancestors that we've identified were a William and a Frederick Barnes who we first find in Logan County/Warren County, KY about 1790. Appearing later with these Barnes were a Charles, James, and Buck Barnes. These two guys are definitely related to James of Maryland - or perhaps a brother. Based upon census records the two were born in the 1760s. Do any of the James/Ketura Barnes descendents have a Frederick and/or William who left Maryland/PA for parts unknown in the 1790s? Rob Richardson Austin, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> To: <BARNES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Barnes - MD, PA, KY, OH > Does anyone have the (missing) connecting family section for this quandary? > > James BARNES, who was m. Keturah SHIPLEY., James, immigrated to this country from Essex County, England in 1676, settling in Anne Arundel County, Maryland. Information has it that James father was named Richard. > > William BARNES of England was the father of son's David, Richard and William BARNES who immigrated to this county from England in 1758. > > In this country the three brothers: David purchased property and settled close to the above James and family (Anne Arundel and Baltimore County, Maryland, later Frederick which became Washington County, Maryland). Richard settled first in Pennsylvania, and then moved close to his brother David, who was established as above with the other BARNES', brother William settled in New York. > > David I's son, David II was the founder of Barnesville, Montgomery County, Maryland. David I's son, James was the founder of Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio. Eventually both families emigrated to Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio. > > The passing of family information from various members, states these families are connected, cousins???, hence, James and the three brothers BARNES are related.who are those missing connections? > > Caleb BARNES, Sr, m. Honour STEVENS, my 4th great-grandparents. Caleb is the son of James III, who died in Nelson County, KY, 1795. > > David BARNES of the above three brother's also had a son Caleb. Caleb was a name frequently used by both these families. > > Can anyone help? > > Thank you. > > Fran >

Hi I hesitate to chime in, nmany others may well know more than I do. My prime source is the 'Barnes Gnealogies" by George N. Barners of Conneaut, Ohio copywright 1903 Many of the families he covers lived in various Ohio communities, I am not a student of Ohio geography, I'm not sure where Conneaut, Ashstabula, or Scio Ohio are located. Others were in Erie. Pa, Many passed thru from Connecticut to New York, Ohio and on west to Oregon etc. I can give a digest of the genealogy of my direct line, who went elsewhee, and some of the people included in the above travels, but I have no where near the details he gives in the book. You may know that there were several original colonial Barnes families. This book covers mainly the Thomas of Hartford, Ct line. George mentions a few of the Thomas of New Haven desendants, who also lived in Ohio. Your names could fit in either family, and probably are partly in both, or even additional lines. I know Fred Barnes of California has a recently published genealogy on the Hartford group, and I think he used George's material in part. If you want to check my known family I can send genealogy reports by e=mail attachments. Good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com - Original Message ----- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> To: <BARNES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 5:14 AM Subject: [BARNES] BARNES family - Barnesville, Belmont Co, OH > Hello everyone, > > Does anyone on the list have connections with the BARNES family, the founders of Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio? > > Does anyone have information regarding...James, David, Zachariah, William, Moses, Arthur, Thomas, Elijah, Isaac BARNES of this Barnes line? The time period would be early 1800's. > > I am deeply grateful for any help with this family, any information is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Fran > > > ==== BARNES Mailing List ==== > Please feel free to suggest any helpful sites and resources relating to the BARNES surname and genealogical research. It would be wise to submit these to the list manager first for approval. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello everyone, Does anyone on the list have connections with the BARNES family, the founders of Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio? Does anyone have information regarding...James, David, Zachariah, William, Moses, Arthur, Thomas, Elijah, Isaac BARNES of this Barnes line? The time period would be early 1800's. I am deeply grateful for any help with this family, any information is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Fran

I have no direct info regarding the parentage, etc. of James Barnes (m. Keturah Shipley) but was intrigued by references to Barnesville, Ohio. In 1850, Zachariah Barnes (Adam, John, Adam, James), age "60" was living with Thomas N. Hayes in Warren Township, Belmont Co., OH (Bemont Co. dwelling 289, fam. 295). In 1860, Zachariah was listed as age 72, and was still living with Thomas N. Hayes. [I read Thomas' middle initial as "H" not "N".] There is nothing to say why Zachariah was in Barnesville. As far as I know, his siblings and cousins all remained in Maryland excepting the two sisters who married into the Driver family (my line) who went to Erie County, Ohio and Allen County, IN.

My Barnes in Mississippi are George William BARNES, b., Forest Co, MS. sp. unknown. Children: Edward, b. 1843-MS; d. 1865 - MS; James W., b. 1845-MS, d.-1865-MS; John Alonzo, b. 1849-MS, d.-1918-TX, m. twice; & Mary Melissa, b. ?, d.? John Alonzo is my g-grandfather. I have very sketcy information about his ancestors; my Grandfather once told me the Barnes came here from Germany and that Edward & James supposedly died upon returning from the Civil War starving and overeating! Would love to make a connection and be glad to share any information I do have. BARNES-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: SWIIITHANG@cs.com wrote Does anyone know any Barnes that might have migrated to Mississippi?

HI could skp see if they can help find the marriage of. WILLIAM HENRY BARNES wife amelia. i think they may of married in hungerford around 1826 they had a son oliver in 1826 in hungerford so assume they married there i cant find any info on the marriage can anyone please help thanks sue email ss012c2739@blueyonder.co.uk

Does anyone know any Barnes that might have migrated to Mississippi?

Does anyone have the (missing) connecting family section for this quandary? James BARNES, who was m. Keturah SHIPLEY., James, immigrated to this country from Essex County, England in 1676, settling in Anne Arundel County, Maryland. Information has it that James father was named Richard. William BARNES of England was the father of son's David, Richard and William BARNES who immigrated to this county from England in 1758. In this country the three brothers: David purchased property and settled close to the above James and family (Anne Arundel and Baltimore County, Maryland, later Frederick which became Washington County, Maryland). Richard settled first in Pennsylvania, and then moved close to his brother David, who was established as above with the other BARNES', brother William settled in New York. David I's son, David II was the founder of Barnesville, Montgomery County, Maryland. David I's son, James was the founder of Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio. Eventually both families emigrated to Barnesville, Belmont County, Ohio. The passing of family information from various members, states these families are connected, cousins???, hence, James and the three brothers BARNES are related.who are those missing connections? Caleb BARNES, Sr, m. Honour STEVENS, my 4th great-grandparents. Caleb is the son of James III, who died in Nelson County, KY, 1795. David BARNES of the above three brother's also had a son Caleb. Caleb was a name frequently used by both these families. Can anyone help? Thank you. Fran

Thomas BARNES Sergeant in the 1st VA State Line Participated at Valley Forge Possibly from New Kent Co,VA or nearby.... Does any one have info concerning this BARNES Revolutionary soldier? Jennifer Sherwood Braswell BARNES-admin@rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/2004

My Dent and Beall lines had first-cousin marriages for more than 150 years, so there are many instances of the pattern you describe. It was their descendant who married the Barnes in my family tree. James Whitten (or Whiting) Beall married Martha F. Barnes, daughter of John S. Barnes and Martha Cannon. I have often wondered if John S. Barnes was related to these Dents and Bealls. He lived in Yalobusha Co., MS, and Cass Co., TX, and descendants lived in Austin Co. and Tarrant Co., TX. I've been searching for the origin of this Barnes family for more than ten years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> To: <BARNES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: [BARNES] family members inter-married > Hello everyone: > > Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > > I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were brothers? I have received documentation and other information from various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of connection. > > Has anyone encountered this situation? > > Thank you for your time and assistance. > > Fran > > > > ==== BARNES Mailing List ==== > To stay informed about the most recent news, new databases,webpages, and mailing lists at Rootsweb, you can subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review by visiting this link: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I have a distant cousin [on another line] who still lives in the same area in Massachusetts where our Immigrant ancestor settled in 1650. This cousin goes back SEVEN times to the Immigrant ancestor. So over a more than three hundred year period, there were numerous cousin [not necessarily first cousin] marriages in my cousin's line. Marilyn Owen

Regarding the 6th GGrands...I have come across a number of 1st cousin marriages. Also, it was not unusual for a widow or widower to marry the brother/sister of their dead spouse. Therefore, the second group of children were cousins to the first group of children, but they shared the same mother or father. My mother's first cousin, who is still living, married her first cousin (now deceased). Lynell Kirk Nelson AGenFool (BARNES, ROBINSON, SLYE, FREEMAN, OLIVER, ARNELL, MERTON, CECIL, GRAVES)

Hello everyone, I have couple of families of Barnes that I am looking into as maybe related to Margaret. 1st family: Donald Wayne Barnes (no dates), Hubert W. Barnes (no dates) these two were brothers. Parents' were Harry Barnes b. Oct 1875 Owen Co. IN d. 1915 IN @ 40 yrs. old. Buried Barnes Cemetery, Franklin Twsp. Owen Co. IN. He married Sarah Kate Lucas b. 1876 IN. 2nd Family: Margaret married a Cleo Holly b.1901 Indiana, Margaret F. Barnes b. 1903 . Maude Barnes b. 1901 Indiana, Nelle Barnes b. Apr 1897 Indiana d. 1915 @ 18yrs. Buried in Riverside Cemetery, Owen Co. IN, Hazel Barnes b.Jan.1894 IN. Their parents I have listed as Stephen Barnes b. Oct 1869 Owen Co. IN d. 1945 @ 76yrs. He married Sarah (Sallie) White b. 1870 in Indiana. Stephen's parents are Ephiram M. Barnes b. May 1841 Indiana.d. 1921 In Indiana. Buried Barnes Cemetery, Franklin Twsp. Owen Co. IN married Sarah M. Johnson 4 Jan 1865 Owen Co.IN She was b.23 May 1841 Tuscarawas Co. OH d. 31 Jan 1918 Owen Co. IN Ephiram's father was Issac Barnes (no dates) does any of these people ring a bell for anyone? By the way my Margaret was b. 3 Oct 1824 PA d. 1 Apr 1891 Elk Horn Grove, Carroll Co. IL All of these Barnes are related to the Eichs from New Jersey in some way. Any Info would be appreciated!!! Thanks Brenda. Hi Donna, your e-mails of those census' helped out a lot!! Thanks Again Brenda

Looking for information on Roy Raymond Barnes, born July 25, 1896 in Mountain Grove Missouri, son of James Barnes and Alice Agnew Malinda of unknown origins. Any help or info will be appreciated, John Barnes

I have never ran across this before, but if I am thinking straight this would make them first cousins, I think this most likely did happened in some situations. Lorene At 03:32 PM 8/14/2004 -0400, Branches & Lil' Twigs wrote: >Hello everyone: > >Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that >many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, >especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. > >I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you >feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were >brothers? I have received documentation and other information from >various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I >thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of >connection. > >Has anyone encountered this situation? > >Thank you for your time and assistance. > >Fran > > > >==== BARNES Mailing List ==== >To stay informed about the most recent news, new databases,webpages, and >mailing lists at Rootsweb, you can subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review >by visiting this link: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello everyone: Please forgive my intrusion. I only seek to ask a question. I know that many of you have found family members inter-married several times over, especially in the 1700's and early 1800's. I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were brothers? I have received documentation and other information from various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of connection. Has anyone encountered this situation? Thank you for your time and assistance. Fran

Fran, IMHO I don't think that it would be unlikely. People use to tend to stay in one place as families. And if they did move on, many times the whole family went. In the small mid-western town where I grew up, I was related to many, many people because of the family thing. And on my father's side of my family, I have situation similar to yours in my FORT family. ~Leslie Kohler~ ***Remembering 9/11*** ---------- From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com > I wonder if I could get your help and/or your opinion...how likely do you feel it would be to find that 2 of your 6th great-grandfathers were brothers? I have received documentation and other information from various family members, and records, and I have checked and re-checked. I thought I had already come across just about every inter-family type of connection. > > Has anyone encountered this situation? > > Thank you for your time and assistance. > > Fran

Hi Everyone: If anyone on the list has a connection to Caleb Barnes m. Honour Stephens / Stevens, I would be deeply grateful for your help. Caleb, Sr and wife moved to Bedford County, PA c. 1770, where their children were born. Their children, went to Perry County, OH, Allegany County, MD and stayed in Bedford County, PA. Prior to Bedford County, PA residence was Anne Arundel / Baltimore County, MD. Do you have Caleb's parents? Caleb's siblings? Any information pertaining to the family is tremendously appreciated. Thank you. Fran

Hello Trudi, The family in the message were my ancestors. The son William was baptised Francis William BARNES s/o W'm & Sophia 8 Jan 1832 at St Mary, Marylebone. Except for the baptisms, the 1841 census entry and the marriage cert. for Jane Harriet BARNS to Edmund Richard POWELL in 1853 I know nothing else. Sorry. Regards Pat. -----Original Message----- From: Trudy Pendley <luckylady0515@adelphia.net> To: Pat Hayward <pat@gilhayward.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 08 August 2004 03:31 Subject: Re: BARNES 1841 William & Sophia >Hi Barnes friends; > >I was wondering if there was any more info on this family, especially the >son William. My gg grandfather was William born in Canada and had a >daughter named Anastacia (Stacey). I've pretty much drawn a blank there. > >Thanks for any info in advance. > >Trudi >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat Hayward" <pat@gilhayward.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <BARNES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:53 PM >Subject: BARNES 1841 William & Sophia > > >> A friend in Canada has found my BARNES family on the 1841 Census at >> Tottenham Court Road, Middlesex, HO 107/686 >> BARNES William 41 messenger Not born in Middx. >> BARNES Sophia 40 Not born in Middx. >> BARNES Harriet 11 Yes born in Middx. >> BARNES William 9 Yes. >> BARNES Kate 8 Yes >> BARNES George 4 Yes >> BARNES Sophia 10 months Yes. >> >> Daughter Harriet was Christened Jane Harriet in 1830 at St Mary Marylebone >> when the family were living at East Street and William was a servant. , >> Son William was christened Francis William and Kate was Katherine. >> No wonder it has been so difficult to find them. >> If you see any connection or find them on later census I'd be pleased to >> hear from you >> Regards >> Pat. >> >